Thread 212972111

Why do Croats love this guy so much? Isn't he a fascist?

seems like you explained why

>>212972128
But are Croats really fascist?
Thompson is banned here in Slovenija btw.

>>212972111 (OP)
does he even have any other bangers besides cavoglave?

>>212972111 (OP)
Fascism is based
Balkanites are highkey based

>>212972576
>country with jewish president loves nazism
>seen in Ukraine
>seen in Argentina
Why is it so common?

>>212972614
The American zionist empire installs its embassadors where they need to put down the population

Same reason as why they supported jewish communists against Germany in the 40s duh.

>>212972229
Unlike German sitzpinkler cucks who are constantly denying they are Nazis, most Croatians, are proud Ustaše

>>212972229
>Banning free speech
So much for being a liberal democracy

>>212972111 (OP)
because they afraid of muslim esp turks

>>212972525
Not really

>>212972614
"nazism = hating jews" is a very american/western view
Thirdies mostly see nazism as believing in the superiority of the nation, and they self-insert how they are obviously the ubermenschen and main character

>>212973210
Democracy and freedom are two separate things. Democracy is tyranny of the majority. And majority wants to ban Croat ultranationalists from speaking about how they will steal more land from us and Serbs

>>212973415
>"nazism = hating jews" is a very american/western view
True.

Serbians were rights

prove me wrong you Nato fuckers

Thompson is more about hating Serbs and being a "patriotic" Croat than anything else. He is just a manifistation of the modern HDZ Croatian nationalist identity that is willing to turn a blind eye and completely ignore the sins of the country's past in the name of its sovereignity and people.

I hate nationalist Croats and who make it their identity to bitch and cope about their shithole but I think the nazi angle on modern ustashe's is a bit overstated although also overlooked by Croats.


>>212973742
Serbia attacked Croatia with a fully equipped army ethnically cleansing and burning any village or town that they could. Killing women and children, bombing hospitals, beating the shit out the elderly and stealing literally everything they could from houses, raping women etc... But nah when Croats take back the land that was stolen from them and the people who moved in there from Serbia escape willingly, it's "NOOO MY HECKING CIVILIANARINOS". I'm not claiming there weren't bad actors on the Croatian side of things but this whole Serbian cope about it being le hecking evil nato pulling the strings behind the scenes and not just a simple ethnic conflict caused by a bunch of literal Balkan neaderthals is so ridiculous.

>>212974332
Both Ustashas and Chetniks are anti-Slav entities entangled with petty nationalism which only achieves one thing: killing more and more Slavs for no reason.

>>212973742
Serbians were by FAR the most genocidal of all ex yugo states, all of them commited atrocities but serbia was the worst and its not even close, serbians will fight tooth and nail to deny this but the evidence speaks for itself, its very similair to japs denying their war crimes in korea and chine, its completely ridiculous

>>212972111 (OP)
He's just some guy from the dinaric rock throwing tribe near herzegovina that loves his village and the million large diaspora that comes from those parts love him
He's not really fascist with those songs, I wish we had real fascist singers though.

>>212972229
>>212973422
I think that's because you have serb čefurs in power. The only argument you can use for Croatia stealing Slovenian land is the Gulf of Piran and that dispute is impossible to settle in a fair matter unless the country that wins the area allows the fishermen from the other to freely use their waters. In any other way a group of people that used to fish there since Slavs came, or Roman times, or before is not allowed to do it anymore because a border literally never existed there before.
>>212974399
There were no Ustaše during the 90s in Croatia. The best you got is some savage individuals that might have larped as Ustaše because of their hatred for Serbs.
Also the only option Croatia had in the 90s was to fight back, it was that or lose 1/3 of its current land and look even weirder than today. Unfortunately sometimes there are no other options than to get your hands dirty or go extinct.

>>212972229
>But are Croats really fascist?
Do Serbs really believe that Dubrovnik was Serbian? That Draža Mihailović was antifascist? That Croatian kings didn't exist? Or is it only Serbian nationalists who believe that?
Nobody knows for sure how much the average Serbian opinion overlaps with the nationalist one.
Same for Croats. Does the average Croat really believe that ZDS isn't a fascist salute? That HOS played a big part in defending Croatia? That Herzeg-Bosnia wasn't just a Croatian version of Republika Srpska?
Nobody knows.
Both the Croatian and Serbian state have been using the strategy of normalizing nationalist views among the population, so that you can't tell how widespread these views really are. Paradoxically these same states are at the same time importing tens of thousands of foreigners.

>>212976670
>I think that's because you have serb čefurs in power. The only argument you can use for Croatia stealing Slovenian land is the Gulf of Piran and that dispute is impossible to settle in a fair matter unless the country that wins the area allows the fishermen from the other to freely use their waters. In any other way a group of people that used to fish there since Slavs came, or Roman times, or before is not allowed to do it anymore because a border literally never existed there before.
>impossible to settle
>one country has all the sea it wants
>other country historically always had sea but now croats and shitalians want to take even that little sea it has
>one country has two disputes (piran + trst)
>the other country has 109+ disputes but it is never their fault

>>212976670
>There were no Ustaše during the 90s in Croatia. The best you got is some savage individuals that might have larped as Ustaše because of their hatred for Serbs.
You killed Serbs and took aid from non-Slavs doing it. Which makes it pretty similar. Of course, Serbs are also anti-Slavic Chetniks who slaughter Croats for their velikosrbski delusion
The question is how to stop Slav killing. Only solution i see is Russia invades all Balkan

>>212973422
>Croats
>Stealing lands from slo and spermbs
Top kek, kys

>>212979039
If we didn't have cuck politicians we would have blocked you from EU/Schengen until you sign treaty for Piran
Or alternatively, 2h long wait time at the border ;)
But we do have cuck politicians *sigh*

>>212972111 (OP)
just imagine what a bigger shithole that place would be without tourism money

>>212973742
>be Milošević
>assimilate the govts of Vojvodina and Montenegro to consolidate power while the Cold War was ending and Croatia and Slovenia want to escape your corrupt dysfunctional socialist shithole to get gibs from Germany
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAAAT, OH MY PRINCE LAZAR
>Serbs in Croatia sperg out fearing they'll get genocided and violently expel 200k Croats from Krajina
>invade Croatia
>invade Slovenia too and give up bc you can't use irredentist arguments for land there
>invade Bosnia, open rape concentration camps there, do the most ethnic cleansing there out of the three sides, do genocide
>also start shit in Kosovo
>act like a crybully when you get BTFO'd in return

Za Dom!

>>212979223
Milosevic was the original Chefurator. He started the whole Turbofolk subhumanism. He is not hated enough for this, the man basically Turkified Serbian culture for decades to come. Hopefully Serbs one day snap out of it

>>212978745
Slovenia never existed in history, you did not have a sea, you are not a maritime nation and you tried to steal the Croatian Sea, which simply does not belong to you, as the court proved. You started a bunch of lawsuits against Croatia and you lost everything. What does that tell you? You have right of passage to international waters and that's it. What you are asking us for is as if we are asking you to give us a 20-kilometer corridor to Austria. "It's not fair, we want a border with Austria, and you're evil because you don't give it to us" - that's literally your argument translated into a language you understand. You will never, I repeat, never get even a liter of Croatian Sea. And not because we are stingy bastards, but because you tried to cheat and behaved like disgusting gypsies. No sea for you. Next!

>>212972128
Kek

>>212979086
In that case, the Croatian Army would raze you to the ground. And then?

>>212979180
Just imagine how much money you wouldn't have if you weren't disgusting unscrupulous parasites.

>>212979338
LOL you already tried in WWII and you had German help then. Our glorious motherland's terrain is like Afghanistan or Iran, mountains everywhere. You would lose
And if not, Russia would help us. Serbia would also use this opportunity to invade you from the other side.

>>212979312
We *would* get your sea if we didn't have cuck politicians. Also we do have border with Austria (sadly), what are you sperging about?

>>212979412
>LOL you already tried in WWII and you had German help then.
Are you retarded? Croatia has never been at war with Slovenia in history. You're probably some re*dit retard who goes to elementary school.

>>212979455
Janez čefurović, retardiran si do bola. Odi na spavanje.

>>212979412
>you already tried in WWII
Tried what lol? Your country's borders were drawn by a Croat. Same as Serbia's borders. You are enclosed within a Croatian contraption. Your reality is designed by us.

>>212979468
>it wasn't official therefore it doesn't count!

>>212979274
Identitarians or Turkmen?

Why do you keep fighting, wouldn't it be better to be united in peace under benevolent Austrian rulers?

>>212979500
So what? Tito was half Slovenian, Kardelj the second most powerful man was Slovenian. Stane Dolanc was the third most powerful man, also Slovenian.
Everything about SFRY was Slovenian. We could have taken everything from you cucks but we didn't. Because we are nice and you are stingy little faggots

>>212978745
>>le more disputes so ur in the wrong
Every time I lay out objective reasons why the Piran problem is a big problem for the locals that live there on both sides a Slovenian flag starts rambling why it's actually Croatia at fault that's stealing the territory or whatever.
You sound more patriotic or dare I say more nationalistic than a Croat balkanoid like myself.
If I lived around Piran and my livelihood dependent on fishing I sure wouldn't like my fate to be decided by the čefurs in Ljubljana and the Bosnians in Zagreb.
>>212978807
>you killed Serbs
When they suddenly chimp out and start killing all non-serbs in their part of Croatia, form militias and start shooting the cops like they're monkeys from LA you aren't left with any better choices. SORRY all Croats aren't non-sinners like Jesus so we can't use the power of the lords love to subdue them!
>took aid from non-slavs
Croatia literally only got aid from Russia during the first years of fighting and NATO (USA) later prevented the Croatian army from entering Bosnia which could have saved indigenous Croats in Posavina that are now mostly gone. Unless you're trying to change the subject to WW2 again which is a really tiresome Serb argumenting style, then again, the reason they chimped out in the 90s was because Milošević convinced them an independent Croatia = Pavelić and NDH.

>>212979536
You are not a Slav and you are not benevolent. You made us fight our blood cousins in the first world war, literally the biggest sin my nation ever committed and one we still have to atone for

>>212979538
Cope

>>212979546
>You sound more patriotic or dare I say more nationalistic than a Croat balkanoid like myself.
Because I have to be, I live in a country full of unpatriotic people while the more south you go in Balkan, the more nationalist they are, the bigger the shithole the more nationalist they are.
And because we are already so small. We have the best economists, the best central planners and the best government employees so if we were bigger we would be a super power.
USA helped Croatia in 1990s. Russia was also ran by Americans back then.

>>212979569
>I have national feelings for that half of my ethnicity where people hate me the most
Why is Tito like this?

>>212979691
Slovenes hate Tito more. Slovenia is the least yugonostalgic state, and Croats in Istria and Rijeka love him. It's Herzegovinians who hate him the most

>>212979645
Could have helped us more instead of making the entire western hemisphere place a weapons embargo on us while Yugoslavia (which yugopatriots like to point out was something like the third strongest army in Europe at some point) emptied all our barracks as they were retreating out of Slovenia.
The US ambassador admitted to our media 2 years ago that they tried to save Yugoslavia from not falling apart by not helping Croatia in the early 90s.
If they had actually helped us for real and from the beginning maybe there would be much less struggle and bloodshed on all sides and the fighting would end much earlier.

>>212979875
>Could have helped us more
So that we get slaughtered? Kucan disarming the territorial guard was the best decision our politicians ever made and saved THOUSANDS of Slav lives. We had 10 day war with like one casualty, meanwhile you on the other hand ...

>>212972111 (OP)
The concert was probably a nationalist psyop to prepare Croats for future wars in Europe.
It just felt fishy, the media didn't attack it as hard as one would expect and even Zagreb's libtard mayor who kneeled for BLM approved of it

>>212972229
You voted for this guy like a gorillion times

>>212979996
But we have the glory of war victory, we have history, we have charisma. You have nothing. The history of 'Slovenia' fits on a sheet of toilet paper, your only source of national pride is that you have an average salary 150 euros higher than Croatia, which lives rent-free in your head. You have a stupid flag and a stupid coat of arms, and your diplomats meet with Slovak diplomats every week to exchange misaddressed mail. Kwab.

>>212979996
Slovenia didn't have a war because Slovenia didn't have a huge territory with rural rebel Serbs. Most of your Serbs came only after WW2 and only to your urban centers. That's just like Pula and Rijeka but those parts saw no fighting and Serbs still live there in great numbers. If our intent was to kill Serbs we would have targeted those as well.
>save slav lives
Okay you literally just want Croatia to give away a third of its land to avoid killing Serbs (further reducing the county after it was already reduced by the Turks) after those Serbs had already started killing Croats.

>>212980282
LMAO what? He never had more than 25% of votes and he was in the government for only 8 years out of 30. Meanwhile you fags are basically a one party state which whines about how Yugoslavia was one party state. Top kek

>>212980195
There will be no future wars. The Russians will not go to war with anyone, understand that. If the Germans, Poles or whoever sends an army, the Russians will drop an atomic bomb on Berlin or Warsaw. Croats with a miserable 4 million inhabitants cannot make a difference nor would they go to war against the Russians because they are not idiots. Serbia has a problem with Kosovo, they don't think about us. In theory, Bosnia, but the Muslims have no weapons and no army. The Croatian army would come to the borders of Herceg-Bosna without any resistance. We have no one to go to war with.

>>212980293
Our flag is better than yours because ours is more similar to Russia.
>>212980380
>Okay you literally just want Croatia to give away a third of its land to avoid killing Serbs (further reducing the county after it was already reduced by the Turks) after those Serbs had already started killing Croats.
No, I didn't say that. We disarmed and we lost no land, isn't this so? Diplomacy is the best solution

>Slovenian zigger
What the fuck

>>212980480
???

>>212980415
The problem was not that it was a one-party state, but that it was a communist and anti-Croatian state with Serbs making up 50% of the administration, police, army and absolutely all leading positions.

>>212980415
>a one party state which whines about how Yugoslavia was one party state.

>>212980454
You have an iq of 80. Even if you read the appropriate books, you wouldn't understand because you're stupid.

>>212980508
It only became anti-Croatian under Milošević

>>212980508
right right, and Serbian Chetniks say that Tito was a Croat and that Yugoslavia was an anti-Serbian state with Croats running everything.
In reality both of you have a huge case of communism derangement syndrome, which we don't have (despite the fact that we had to send money to less developed republics!)

>>212980454
>Diplomacy is our best solution
I think Yugoslav (Serbs) tried minimal force in Slovenia to see if they can make you stay and after and after a week decided it's not worth it and let you go. I'm not sure myself how the Serb mind workds seeing how they just let Montenegro and their final access to the sea go while busting their balls over some impoverished muslim hellhole with 2 million albanians.
>Diplomacy is the best solution
Do you think Croatia could have had a diplomatic solution with Yugoslavia or Srpska Krajina that resulted with complete Croatian territorial integrity?

>>212980642
>Do you think Croatia could have had a diplomatic solution with Yugoslavia or Srpska Krajina that resulted with complete Croatian territorial integrity?
Yes. I mean look at Vucic. Serbs have militant nationalists as Generals and such, but their leaders are massive sellouts. You would give the president a little bribe and he would pretend that the offensive failed or whatever.

why the fuck are you retards arguing with each other
you're all literal clones of each other

>>212980694
>you're only allowed to argue with browns and blacks
Why are Anglos like this

>>212980694
it's one brony schizo samefagging on vpn.he does this every day for some reason.

>>212980415
As someone whose town had the communist party in power since the end of WW2 until 2 months ago I take great offence in this.

>>212980778
Last time I checked Croatia bans communist parties like Ukraine

>>212980726
literally literally literally what are you complaining about
>noooo they killed us and we killed them over some trifle bullshit nobody but us cares about
>we will now proceed to do nothing with our country but remind the world about it every 2 seconds and chimp out
every country in the world went through this shit but they don't base their entire national identities around it
move the fuck on already

>>212980810
I mean the party has the same people that ran the communist party during Yugoslavia but had just rebranded themselves as social democrats
>Last time I checked Croatia bans communist parties like Ukraine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Labour_Party_of_Croatia

>>212980873
That is Croats and Serbs. /pol/ won't tell you this because they shill white unity and one unified Christianity but in reality Orthodox and Catholics hate each other more than Islam.
Our right wing pro-Catholic party imported thousands of Islamic Albanians but made a big drama when a social democrat politician wished Orthodox a merry Christmas. It is really, really stupid and that is why religion must go away from politics.

>>212980877
>membership: 100
lol

>>212980913
I have no problem with Orthodoxy or Orthodox countries by themselves besides the fact that they are fighting amongst each other even right now and seem way more trigger happy but I have a problem with Orthodox countries like Serbia (and parts of Catholic lands where Croats live) that behave like Kurds and try to spread their rule to other non-muslim-behaving regions by sword even like they're trying to expand their banana state caliphate

>>212981028
That is you. But the 1940-45 and 1990s wars between Serbs and Croats were definitely motivated by religion a lot

>>212981067
Croatia didn't expand outside it's borders and we even cucked ourselves with the Bosnian Dayton agreement
Croats in Burgenland won't rebel like Serbs in Croatia and start killing all non-Croats because during WW2 Hitler tried to kill them for being Slavs in the Third Reich.
We have some retards with Serbian last names shooting guns during weddings in Imotski waving our flags but that's where the similarities with Serbs end.

>>212980555
Under Milosevic it was just a culmination, personally I don't even consider that for Yugoslavia anymore. Tito's Yugoslavia had some positive sides that even the 90 IQ plebs could be satisfied with (social justice, housing issues, jobs) but no nation can be satisfied if they feel like second-class citizens and the Croats had that feeling in Yugoslavia because the Serbs within Croatia itself were everywhere represented in 'Jewish' quotas plus some Croatian national interests were not achieved (the highway to Dalmatia) and the whole country was actually dependent on foreign exchange from Croatian tourism, we were a cash cow. The Serbs had a similar problem but on a different level, their political goals were not achieved. They were a privileged caste but a Croat was the president and he made it impossible for them to do what they wanted. Tito is guilty in the face of history for the war because he did not solve the most important thing: the national issue of Croats. If a new Cvetkovic-Maček agreement had been made, there would have been no war. That agreement was not made precisely because if it were made, Yugoslavia would be unnecessary, and therefore the communists would disappear from power. To prevent that, they created non-existent nations (Muslims, Mt Niggers, Macedonians). Yugoslavia was an atheist country, and it recognized a nation named after a religion, and along the way they built more mosques in 45 years of communism than in 450 years of Turkish occupation. Insane. So, if Croatia and Serbia had divided Bosnia, the Serbs would by default have been left with the rest. They would not go to war against Croatia because they would already have almost everything they want. They started the war because they realized that they were left without everything, that in all the Balkan and world wars they lost hundreds of thousands of people, and that the whole story will come out only with Serbia with 2 autonomous provinces. Kwab