Thread 212983211

Why don't Americans wanna milk cows?

>>212983211 (OP)
Raise the wages and people will be willing do it. Pretty simple.
I would easily be willing to pay more for groceries so long as it's done by legal Americans being paid fair wages.

These are all so fake and obvious clickbait to ease the rectal tenderness of Liberals and give them a soothing balm after orangeman winning tire their colonic tissues

Translated from yiddish to english:
"We don't want to pay employees to do work"

They would rather close than raise wages, get out here with your blame the victim bs

>>212983211 (OP)
Shut the fuck up. Malingshit. If anything should be milked, its you

>>212983298
>>212983316
They don't have the extra income to justify raising the wages

>>212983316
If they raise their wage, their price of milk goes up and big stores stop buying their milk and their farm goes bankrupt

>NOOOOOOOOOO WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THE JOB I WANTED NOOOOOOOOOOOO BEING A FARMER IS TO LE HARD PLS LEMME HAVE MAH SLAVES BACK
Total farmer destruction

>>212983340
Then the business should fail instead of ruining the country by importing brownoids.
Letting bad businesses fail is good for the economy.

>>212983340
If the only way you can run a business is to hire illegals workers and pay less than minimum wage then you deserve to go out of business

>>212983211 (OP)
>our business model relies on slave labor
great but now it doesn't, boo hoo

>>212983409
But americans get cheap grocery because brownoids work on the farm for slave tier wages

>>212983470
Americans will just import more expensive milk which will cause even more problems

>>212983509
>>212983514
Implying illegals don't buy food too

>>212983275
This is bullshit. Someone with a degree isn't going to clean toilet if you ''raise the wages''

>>212983211 (OP)
>"HOPE YOU ENJOY PICKING COTTON!"
As much as I recognize that a certain degree of respect should probably be automatically given to farmers, some of these faggots really need to shut the fuck up
>>212983275
It's not even about decent wages, sometimes a period of hardship is needed in order for there to be room for eventual innovation. Why make make the tractor or cotton mill when you have a never ending supply of slave labor? If anything, the equipment used by our bigger agri and food corporations will probably become cheaper either by organically or by government intervention. Specifically if they get their head out their ass and actually begin striking down corporation like John Deere, reform our broken patent system and regulate a little

Americans are so glib now with kicking out migrants but when real prices hit they will know pain

>>212983509
>But americans get cheap grocery because brownoids work on the farm for slave tier wages
Shit, and here I was thinking it was because our land was some of the most fertile on earth

>>212983298
Why didn't they pay abos instead of bringing you there?

>>212983533
There's plenty of people without degrees.

You know back in the 50s and 60s all the jobs the illegals took used to be jobs for the youth fresh out of high school.
You picked apples for a summer or did unskilled construction labor to help pay for college for a summer. But that little Alice of Americana was xooltws by brown illegals who made these jobs their whole career stealing opportunities from our youth

>>212983586
Americans pay the least for food and youre bitching that its too cheap

>>212983586
Not really, fertilizer equalized all land, it really is labor vs produce

>>212983548
If you charge $7 for an apple, nobody's gonna buy it. They can't go buck wild. Most of that shit was marked up anyways

>>212983627
They did for a while but then we had about 20 years of based guys in government who mandated white nationalism and white protectionism. All non-white labour schemes were ended.

craziest thing is that "seasonal work" was pretty common, the reason the US didn't have a ton of Mexican migrants until the 80s is partially because they handed out temporary work permits, Mexican workers would show up, do their job and fuck off back to their families in Mexico as soon as their permits were over, no reason to settle in the US
but then that system was undermined and then NAFTA fucked over a lot of Mexican farmers that couldn't compete with the uber productive, subsidized American agriculture and they had to start moving north for work

I also remember reading a news article from over here of a farmer paying something like 4 times minimum wage for harvesting season, roughly on par with stuff like bank tellers, but almost none of their usual seasonal workers showed up, purely because having any kind of income, even for 1 month, would get them kicked out of the welfare and unemployment programs they were in, so social assistance is making people less prone to take shitty jobs

>>212983504
>t.

>>212983713
Well let's just say America couldn't grow cotton like the good ol days

I would unironically love working on a farm but I don't do it because it's expected that if you do ag stuff like this you have to speak Spanish because their entire workforce is illegals.

ironically that's why a lot of people don't even bother.

I have a computer science degree by the way and I would still milk cows for a living

>>212983211 (OP)
>Sheldon, VT resident
>Number 1 priority is Mexican border security
lmao, what a tard.

The average illegal worker costs the taxpayer about $100,000 overall in welfare and public subsidies because they don't make a wage that anyone can live on in the US. One of these farms got raided and the owner said that the illegals who were very skilled and were working there for years got paid $80 a day working 12 hours straight, which is much less than the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour that was established 40 years ago. The profits are private but the costs are born by the public.

>>212983777
that's business as usual in this god forsaken country

name one successful american company that isn't getting huge government handouts

>>212983765
It's fake you moron, don't you know when you're being fed a line

>>212983656
>Americans pay the least for food and youre bitching that its too cheap
To cheap is a bit generous. I mean, have you seen the price for a Big Mac lately :Y

Besides, you have free (albeit mediocre) healthcare, and yet you bitch?

>>212983795
>Free

>>212983805
You got me! Yeah I mean "free"

>>212983795
Because canadian healthcare is dogshit

>>212983795
>Besides, you have free (albeit mediocre) healthcare, and yet you bitch?
Illegals get this too because they go into the emergency room when they feel bad and then when the bill comes they just ignore it.

>>212983884
Illegals don't even go to hospitals what are you talking about

>>212983533
We probably do have too many people getting degrees as well

>>212983545
>should probably be automatically given to farmers
For what? Just give everyone a base level of respect.

>>212983533
Wasn't there some study not too long ago, that basically found out that in America there are nearly 80 million people willing to work in factories and similar environments.

Back when America used to manufacture they peaked at a workforce of 19.6 million factory workers, field hands, etc. There's quadruple that willing to work now. Corporations and business owners just prefer to use slave labor.

>>212983905
You've obviously never been in the emergency lobby of a hospital at 1AM, the entire room is filled with elderly Latino men doubled over in pain because they drank too much cerveza and their hysterical wives who don't speak a word of English. Neither have any ID and when they leave the next morning they throw the bill into the trash on the way out.

>>212983756
X to doubt... You want a hobby farm perhaps, you want to homestead in retirement and defray your costs with farm produce

>>212983905
>Now Gavin Newsome's administration is borrowing $3.4 billion from the state’s general fund to cover the unexpected cost increase. It’s unclear when the administration plans to restore the money.

>The administration acknowledged that more people are enrolled in the program than the state anticipated, and that the state is spending $2.7 billion more than it planned on coverage expansions for immigrants without legal status.

>Roughly 1.6 million immigrants without legal status are enrolled in Medi-Cal, according to state data. The program is a lifeline to people who traditionally have not had access to health insurance, and California is one of six states that offer coverage to immigrant adults regardless of whether they are in the country legally.

>“If we weren’t spending eight-and-a-half billion dollars on illegal immigrants, we wouldn’t need to borrow $3.4 billion to cover the difference,” Jones said.

>H.D. Palmer, a spokesperson for the state’s finance department, acknowledged that the rise in spending is partially attributable to higher-than-projected costs associated with larger enrollment numbers for California’s undocumented population

>>212983671
>All non-white labour schemes were ended.
Still done. Aboriginal full and half castes were bonded to private farms while the government "paid" for them. Also the constant use of Pacific Islanders and using fresh immigrant Euros to help fluff up the rural labor base in areas experience emigration crisis with dog shit pay.

>>212983470
>>212983498
You can't say that after the fact of several decades of this shit.

>>212983548
Could be some time but like >>212983277 suggests, why is the milk still cheap

>>212983275
Raising wages is commuism or something

>>212983945
I love animals, I love agriculture, and I love working with my hands. I've done physical jobs for most of my life.

If the USA is going to say trillions by outsourcing all IT to India we should put that money back into local labor. The "Americans don't want to do these jobs" is corporate MSM propaganda. People love the local industry, they just want livable wages and time to spend with their families.

100 years ago Milton Keynes predicted that by this time people would be working 20 hour weeks due to progression in labor productivity but instead we're working more and getting less out of it.

>>212983504
America has literally at every point in its existence relied on slave/cheap labor

>>212983986
>a problem has been around a long time so we need to keep it around

Those retards dont know that automatic milkers exist? Tou dont need mexicans nor indian code monkeys anymore.

>>212983211 (OP)
>AMERICANS JUST WON'T DO THE JOBS AT SLAVE WAGES! WE NEED SLAVES!
Funny, we somehow managed to still pick cotton after the Civil War. I'm sure we'll survive.

>>212983211 (OP)
unitedstatians would rather milk each other's mutilated cocks

>>212984005
Maynard Keynes but yes. Past economists overlooked how corporate powers take over governments to create self-serving policy.

Milk

>>212983211 (OP)
>Why don't Americans wanna milk cows?
Because Americans wanna milk niggas.

>>212984005
Yet economic reality kicks in hard. The type of jobs people want either don't exist, DO NOT pay high wages or require a ton of education and training.

>>212984095
>Funny, we somehow managed to still pick cotton after the Civil War
By using poor whites and blacks in a shitty exploitive system where they were generationally bound to the land that they could not truly own or ever truly hope to own and basically trafficked around.

>>212983545
>Why make make the tractor or cotton mill when you have a never ending supply of slave labor?
Uh, the cotton mill was made while slavery was still widespread and fully legal in the British Empire?

>>212983211 (OP)
>Wants to fix the border
>also wants illegal workers

Small business owners are a cancer to humanity
Slaver white boy better Milk Those cows< I hope he goes bankrupt and is force to prostitute his daughter to the same Latinos he wanted to enslave

>>212983211 (OP)
Translation: We paid illegals $1 an hour and Americans don't want to be paid $1 an hour

>>212985477
I've seen a documentary once where the illegals were paid 100 dollars a day
That's not bad

>>212986020
For the amount of work they do and the hours they put in? It’s not livable

>>212983275
this

Employers just want their Mexican pseudoslaves back

>>212983275
>I would easily be willing to pay more for groceries so long as it's done by legal Americans being paid fair wages.
yeah sure. that's why mom and pop shops are still thriving instead of gigantic supermarket chains like walmart taking over everything

>>212983275
you really think they care about you and your poorfag living wage? They never will. When will you learn?

>>212984005
>America has nearly half a million unfilled manufacturing jobs, according to the U.S. Labor Department. Nearly half of manufacturing companies say their biggest challenge is recruiting and retaining workers, according to a survey this year by the National Association of Manufacturers.
>Quaker City increased its average salaries by 30% since the Covid-19 pandemic. Still, “if we hire 20 people, two to three will decide to stay for a career while others will quit after a few weeks or months,” said Joseph Korff, the company’s owner.

>>212986985
what is quaker city? a company? all the "manufacturing" jobs near me seem to have an additional engineering requirement, or are management positions. I can show you three abandoned buildings though that used to be factories 40 years ago.

>>212983533
I would.

>>212983944
>elderly Latino men doubled over in pain because they drank too much cerveza
why can't they filter people?

>>212986985
Because working in a factory fucking sucks
Unironically being a burger flipper is not as bad as working in a factory

>>212983637
but your cost of education has increased way more than wages, no?
back then someone could afford college with summer work, now it is unrealistic.

>>212986985
>if we hire 20 people, two to three will decide to stay for a career while others will quit after a few weeks or months
So reduce hours, improve benefits, increase upward mobility. There are more incentives than raw salary pay.

Why don't lower class white children do it? Sure their prospects will be shit but whites are already socio-econ. stratified and republicans thrive on hierarchialism

>>212983211 (OP)
Milking cows isn't a terrible job. I'd gladly do it.
But I wouldn't gladly pay 3x for the price of milk.

>>212988198
Lol, the lower classes think the elites are on their side protecting their wages.
Meanwhile the elites are envisioning a neu-feudal society where the lower classes are buck broken and made to work the fields for free.
Steve Bannon might have been the only honest voice speaking for the working class and he was kicked out of the Trump circle.
Tells you all you need to know.
The rest of them are all Peter Thiel types dreaming of neu-feudalism.

>>212988015
Maybe people will work if they take away all the free stuff that lets them not have to work. Most people don't want to work, even in the greatest of jobs. But we do it because we need to eat, feel a sense of purpose, hopefully contribute to something greater, and be able to pay to enjoy things. And we pay for things because other people have to work hard to build things or provide services that people want. The government welfare system takes all that away. Many people come from countries that did not make progress with their civilization, they just wanted to lounge around, hunt, eat, and hang out with family. That's great, but that type of indigenous civilization only allows a very small number of people to exist in a given area, because they depend on nature to provide. People have no incentive to work if they have everything subsidized.

>>212988991
If employers won't offer something that's better than the meagre existence of welfare then they shouldn't be in business anyway.
Fact of the matter is that employers are cheap scum who will fuck over their employees every chance they get. They don't need any more tools to flood the labour market and suppress wages even more, whether that be immigrants, illegals, feminism, or the removal of welfare.

>>212988431
>>fagmers when they have to actually work and can't exploit the browns labour anymore
your people's farmers and by extension the euro farmers do the same thing. don't act like you guys are innocent

kind of unrelated but why is literally nobody talking about getting rid of corn subsidies and reorienting that in something else instead of flooding the market with HFCS?

>>212989136
why are ypipo so weak an lazy

>>212983211 (OP)
womp womp

>>212983275
>DURR DURR INFLATION
>just increase wages of grocery producers
fucking lmao

lol backwards low-tech americans

in sweden you have 1 farmer running the entire operation, everything else is handled by machines

Easy: temporary permits to do those jobs and then back to their original countries.

I've said this before.

Firsties don't want to clean toilets for minimum wage.
They eradicated their lower castes and made everyone equal.
Now the only solution is to import servants to do those jobs.

>>212983275
>I would easily be willing to pay more for groceries so long as it's done by legal Americans being paid fair wages.
You wouldn't, you had a melty over eggs last year

>>212990878
Why should 100 gypsies sort my trash when a single wypipo with some space age machine can do their job in a quarter of the time?

All lower castes should be genocided, unironically

>>212990878
Necessity is the mother of invention. We could have decent cleaning robots by now if not for importing cheap labour all the time.

>>212983211 (OP)
>now i have to actually do farmer work :(

>>212990939
So where's your space age trash sorting robot?

>>212990944
You're a white firstie who hates immigrants and have the blood of masterrace high IQ europeans flowing in your veins.

Why haven't you invented that robot yet?