which one was more impressive?

i think the ottomans faced tougher competition

Mudslimes explain yourselves

>>212990749 (OP)
it's stupid to compare countries like this especially when they existed centuries apart
i think ummayads were bigger by the % of world's land area, population and wealth they controlled
ottomans did have the biggest city on the world though which the ummayads didn't and ummayads also started off by inheriting an empire and didn't last as long as the ottomans which started from 0 as a tribe

>>212991924
>ummayads were bigger by the % of world's land area, population and wealth they controlled
>the area they controlled: 80% desert
Kek

>>212990749 (OP)
These ummayad maps are highly exagerated and include all their scouting missions and every single small outpost they took a shit in, especially the sahara part
I'd say ottomans considering the pushback they had and all the strong armies they were contemporary too, ummayads blitzkrieg'd all those regions only because every big empire was collapsing at once

>>212990815
That's why after centuries of prayer Allah is giving his followers fertile European soil

>>212990815
turkey is as green as spain and italy on this map desu

>>212992268
As Italy? 1/4 of it, maybe.
Spain is desertic

>>212992037
the regions that ottomans controlled that umayyads didn't:
>anatolia
>balkans and some regions to the north of balkans
>northern black sea coast
the regions that umayyads controlled that ottomans didn't:
>iberia
>morocco
>iran
>khorasan region (historical regions consisting of southern central asia and parts of modern day iran and afghanistan)
>oman / straight of hormuz
>sindh region (some historical region near the ending of indus river)
i think umayyads come on top if you compare these in their own period but there is more to an empire other than the lands they controlled

>>212992413
>Hispania and morocco during/before ummayad rule
Ouga bouga farmer lands
>Hispania and morocco during ottomans rule
Strong empires
It's this simple

>>212990749 (OP)

>>212992473
That's true but Hispania wasnt ooga booing, but it was still in turmoil because the visigoths were infighting

>>212992501
complete meme made up of asian nomads roaming steppes, not an empire

>>212992544
>complete meme made up of asian nomads roaming steppes, not an empire

>>212992501
My ancestors :)

>>212992602
Mehmet you aren't a Mongol, sorry. Also open a history book or something

>>212992544
They were collecting taxes from those lands THOUGH

Currently living in it :)

>>212992602
You are a smelly gayreek arap hybrid, ywnbam

>>212990815
Bangladesh is the Greenest country on the planet. Are they monopolising all the Allah points?

>>212992681
Das rite, Mehmet is actually LYDIAN/HITTITE/ARMENIAN/COLCHIAN.

>>212992816
>gayreek arap
*Greek-Illyrian-Thracian-Luwian-Hattian-Hurrian-Canaanite kebabstuff

>>212992681
yes, we are turkic who were so close to the mongols back then it was basically interchangable
and you open a history book
the mongol empire was the biggest empire in history and they established laws and had control over everyone
there is a thing called pax mongolica

>>212992950
P sure Indonesia has the most forest cover of any Muslim-majority country in the world

>>212990749 (OP)
>top one
My ancestors

>>212992501
Also my ancestors


>>212993109
>>212993192
>panjito thinks that everybody us a rapebaby like him
Btw you’ll never be white you pathetic cunt.

>>212993294
your retarded map scales from how big the country is by land area
post a map that shows %of forest coverage on country

>>212993369
>you’ll never be white
Imagine wanting to be part of the same race as the ppl who invented post-structuralism, transgenderism, and the Balfour Declaration.

>>212993442
You and the other latinxes suck them off enough to give that idea

>>212993431
HUGE W for the Sultanate of Brunei, French Guinea, Equatorial Guinea, and other equatorial countries

>>212990749 (OP)
The Ottoman Empire had more soul

>>212993369
>>panjito thinks that everybody us a rapebaby like him
>Btw you’ll never be white you pathetic cunt.
Fuck off retard, as if you aren’t allowed to banter with nonwhites if you aren’t nonwhite yourself. Faggots like you who take everything personally are one of the things that ruined the board

>>212993520
Fuck off faggot as if americans are so thick skinned. Your flags constantly seethe about everything and everyone here.

>>212993458
I believe in the unity of the brown race. Fuck wh*toids and their evil pro-Israeli tranny ideology.

>>212993431
Mudslimes really do hate trees.
>>212993294
Indonesia hasn't had time to be destroyed, historically they were islamized fairly recently, a couple hundred more years and it will be another dead, dusty shithole.

>>212993567
isn't south america a haven for gays and trannies

>>212993510
The Islamic world peaked intellectually and artistically during the Abbasid Caliphate howbeit.

>>212993567
Israelis aren't white, and the reason there's support for Israel is because kikes have infested all our institutions.
Very few white people actually support Israel.

>>212993622
name 15 billion Islamic philosophers

>>212993604
Brazil has more transgender people than any other country in South America. It's also got more people of mostly European descent than any other country in South America. Coincidence?

>>212993622
True but it wasn’t as distinct as the Ottoman Empire. They created something unique through the mix of persian, turkic and greek/balkan cultures.

>>212993664
you come from a spanish ballsack, jorje
what you consider "your people" are actually the people your ancestor raped to produce you

pic related, majority haplogroup of mexico is european

>>212990749 (OP)
Why didn't they take the coast here?

>>212993651
I can't do 15 billion, but I can do 15.
(not ranked in any particular order)
1. Al-Farabi
2. Avicenna
3. Averroes
4. Al-Ghazali
5. Ibn Khaldun
6. Alhazen
7. Al-Biruni
8. Ibn Tufail
9. Ibn al-Nafis
10. Ibn Bajja
11. Al-Jahiz
12. The Ikhwan al-Safa Group
13. Ibn Miskawayh
14. Al-Tusi
15. Al-Kindi

>>212993817
>what you consider "your people" are actually the people your ancestor raped to produce you
Uhmmmm yeah? Everybody is descended from people their ancestors had sex with.
Also, Africa begins at the Pyrenees and at the Alps, so Spanish and Italian people are not white.

>>212994048
no, your ancestors are the rapist, because your direct male line descends from them
>Also, Africa begins at the Pyrenees and at the Alps, so Spanish and Italian people are not white.
oh, you're a pajeet
wasted my time then

>>212993988
>only iberian and persian men
heh

>>212994343
>all muslim

Was the Ummayad even real? Seems like a lot of barren unpopulated land that got rushed by some horsemen and nothing else came of it. The Ottomans took over some of the most valuable land of the time and had a protracted administration.

>>212994117
My ancestors are both male and female, so that means I have both brown West Med rapist genes and brown Mexican Lowlands rape victim genes.
>you're a pajeet
I'm not the AR1anjeet here.

>>212994367
doesn't matter. it just shows Islam didn't bring anything worthy on the table, science and culture being developed in already civilised places

>>212994396
There's some schizo theory about them being christian arabs who made up everything about muhammad to have a casus belli and attack byzantines and convert everyone under their cult for profit

>>212993817
>Bulgaria is mostly E1b1b
Holy fuck, Bulgarians confirmed for Lost Tribe of Israel.

>>212994431
Not really it brought the network and patronage that these men used to do their science.

>>212990815
I will explain it to you
>christianity
Jesus was by definition the gf stealer, king of the jews
>judaism
David was the first ensalver
>muslim
Only rrue cult except it came too late and now is dying

Muslims worship gigachads apparently

>>212994516
Islam is literally the last religion that is taken seriously nowadays.

>>212994512
so why didn't these men produce science and culture in Mecca or Yemen?

>>212990749 (OP)
is tehre a difference? thought they were the same race

>>212994554
Because the places they did that were regional seats of power and trade. Trade hubs have always been more innovative due to the exchange of ideas.

>>212994639
is that what you tell junkies when they get high on the heroin you sell them?

>>212994554
Have you ever tried working when it's +40°C? Unless you're a super-human, you'll most likely become very sleepy, sweaty, and get tired even without having to exert a strong effort.
Ergo, before the invention of air conditioning, any kind of work (whether artistic or intellectual) would've been nigh-impossible for people living in much of the Arabian peninsula or deep in the Sahara Desert.

I will now explay the happening problem: once every 1000 years, first in israel (?) then in israel again then in athens then in italy (now) then it will happen in california or italy again it happens the happening. This means that one (1) guy has the ultimate power over the whole world and it is his duty to take over it. problem is what happens with previous happening, which is what causes majority of insanity

>>212990815
>I don't feel so good m8s...

>>212997114
That's just fields of wheat blooming