Thread 213006350

How are homosexuals viewed in your country?

They don’t fly so good.

>>213007218
There are some things the Arabs do better, I will admit

I'm straight but couldn't care less if two gays kissed
Are chuddies this fragile?

>>213007347
I dont either but i still find them gross.

>>213007317
Why? Are you by any chance as low IQ as an arab?
>>213007347
Chuds aren't, but stupid chuds are fragile
>>213007477
You don't have to self insert when you see someone kissing anon

>>213007998
>You don't have to self insert when you see someone kissing anon
No i dont. Gays are gross enough on their own.

>>213006350 (OP)
That's entirely upbringing not a natural reaction
Larvae are consumed as food in various cultures around the world

>>213008040
Why? You are self inserting as a straight dude, that's why you find it gross.

>>213008089
>You are self inserting as a straight dude, that's why you find it gross.
What the hell are you talking about?
Seeing two fags kissing illicits the same reactions as seeing two fat ugly people kissing

>>213008154
>as seeing two fat ugly people kissing
So... Nothing? Who the fuck is even bothered by two ugly people kissing? Why do you care?
>>213008060
100%

>>213008219
>So... Nothing?
It illicits disgust same as homosexuals.

>>213006350 (OP)
Homophobia is a low IQ trait

>>213008242
There is either something wrong with you, or you were indoctrinated to hate gays.
>inb4 something is wrong with gays!
Nope, we've have existed since the dawn of humanity. Homosexuality exists in many other mammals.
>>213008263
Exactly.

Initially, I'm pretty indifferent to gays but homophobes' hysteria made me lean towards the fags' side

Normal people don't care.
Chuds care a LOT to the degree they will happily beat, shun, disown and even murder their own children for being LGBT.

>>213008403
Some people will really do this but have the audacity to claim it's gays/trans who are mentally ill lmao

>>213008334
We're alright in the head. It is you that is mental. Keep projecting. Trump will make you kill yourself after the take over

>>213007998
>You don't have to self insert when you see someone kissing anon
Tb h that argument would have more standing if it were the rule and not an exception enjoyed exclusively by gays

>>213008461
What did Trump do to homosexuals to make me hate him? Seriously. I don't give a damn about gay marriage since it's pointless, so go ahead.
>mental
As I said, it's natural, caused by mutation and environment. And genetically passed through kin selection.

>>213008403
Without you they would never exist. It would be a total dissapointment and waste if they weren't up to your ideal image of a progeny.
Such children are broken and must be disposed of in any way. They never have to deal with us and us them. It's a win win situation.

>>213008334
>Nope, we've have existed since the dawn of humanity.
...So? Lots of types of people have existed since the dawn of humanity. Pedophilia isn't accepted even if chomos have existed since the forever

>>213008263
The moral law is the main sign of intelligence

>>213008554
>take over
He's talking about Trumps dumbass threat to annex Canada which he totally will follow through with any day now. Just as soon as he gets Greenland, Mar-o-Gaza and achieves our new glorious coal mining and banana plantation based economy. 2 more weeks tops

>>213008601
So it's natural and prevalent in mammals, jeet.

>>213008334
>Nope, we've have existed since the dawn of humanity. Homosexuality exists in many other mammals
Doesnt make you any less disgusting.

>>213008334
And your kind won't live to see the future. one day we will cure you which is more defeating than eliminating you outright.

>>213008828
It's sad to live such a hateful life, loathing people who never harmed you and never will

We work in the shadows to bring about the light

>>213008754
And? Dude, mammals engage in rape, cannibalism, infanticide etc. too. Are they natural too?

>>213008828
You really think I like being gay? I'd rather be normal, hetero man and have family. But sadly, there will never be a "cure" for something like this, because it's not a disease in the first place. It's a role, to support your siblings and pass on your genes through them.
>>213009004
>Are they natural too?
Nah, must be artificial, saar. lmfao

>>213009097
Okay, so you acknowledge that just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it's morally justifiable.

>>213009163
Sure
How's homosexuality immoral like pedophilia or cannibalism?

>>213008334
>Nope, we've have existed since the dawn of humanity. Homosexuality exists in many other mammals.
So does pedophilia and incest, anon

>>213009204
I feel like as long as the concept of "straightness" exists, sodomy cannot be moral. I don't think it's as bad as pedophilia or cannibalism (obviously) but... lemme put it this way. The vast majority of people are straight (90% at least), And, even if they support gay rights to varying degrees, they're revolted by the actual act of homosexuality (As the OP image suggests). And if 90% of people find something revolting, then that's probably a good benchmark for what is and isn't moral.

>>213008242
You are trying WAY too hard closeted Fin.

>>213009163
Morality is inherently relative, stupid saar

>>213009424
>Morality is inherently relative
I'm sorry but that makes no sense

>>213006350 (OP)
Are maggots supposed to be disgusting?
Are you a woman or something?

>>213006350 (OP)
like maggots
disgusting filth

>>213009336
They aren't revolted by the actual act of homosexuality. OP post is Mormon men looking at gay men kissing.

Most people don't care, and many men in fact masterbate to lesbian porn, not even disgusting they find it arousing. Gay erotica is also quite popular with women especially in Asia

>>213009719
kill yourself faggot

>>213009806
>They aren't revolted by the actual act of homosexuality
Ask any straight man to visualize kissing another man. They'd start dry heaving within seconds.

>>213009991
Same as if they pictured an fat woman or if you asked a woman to picture kissing a short man doesnt mean you throw them in prison over it.

Old white men love the gays here

>>213009321
Pedophilia, if it even exists, is very rare in mammals. And incest happens only under unnatural conditions.

>>213009163
It is usually justifiable, but it's not as simple as that. Nature is not immoral, it is amoral.
>>213009336
>And if 90% of people find something revolting, then that's probably a good benchmark for what is and isn't moral.
True, but the thing is, majority of people in high IQ nations aren't repulsed by homosexuality.

>>213006350 (OP)
I just tried to watch a movie on amazon prime (Asteroid City) and 30 mins in or so two of the main characters randomly kissed each other and I closed the tab immediately. I'm not even homophobic but I just don't want to have to see it

>>213008242
The way you're straining to avoid answering the question tells us everything we need to know. The question was why does it illicit that disgust in you? Not whether it did, but why does it. And you know that.

Bending over backwards and forwards trying to evade that specific question is way more damning than if you just claimed you didn't know why.

>>213008334
Not just many other mammals, it exists in literally every animal species that we've looked at for it. And I mean absolutely every single one.

>>213009991
So I'm gay or bi or whatever if I don't cringe?

>>213010066
>you throw them in prison over it.
I didn't say they should be put in prison over it. I just don't think it should be legitimized or validated either.

Also, not too many men will have a visceral disgust towards kissing a fat woman, even if they wouldn't be thrilled about it. It's an unhygienic fat woman who'll cause a gag reflex.

>>213009336
Sodomy? You mean oral sex? Because oral sex was classified as sodomy for thousands of years. You mean anal sex? Oh boy, wait till you discover that heterosexuals do anal sex way more often than gay men do. And yes, that's right, gay men don't always do anal sex.
Looks like your ignorance is a primary driver of your bigotry. Big surprise.

Gays and trannies are like poo
I’m not afraid of or secretly in love with poo, I just don’t want it around me

>>213010109
>majority of people in high IQ nations aren't repulsed by homosexuality
See>>213009991

>High IQ nations
By that, do you mean developed nations? If so, then Japan, Singapore and South Korea have no gay rights beyond it being legal.

>>213010223
Yeah, straights do it as something adjacent to a fetish. If there were straight couples who never do it the traditional way and only do anal, then yeah they're weird too.

I don't care on a personal level and I'll willingly admit that some gays are subjectively and objectively great people, bringing culture, value and innovation to the table. But, it's an insipid political project (rainbow flag aids awareness gay struggle stuff isn't a potent enough project for serious political work) and I feel like there's a certain retardation that comes with sub-par political projects. I'd liken it to a libidinal stumbling block. Let's put it like this: the inability to penetrate the female (on an almost metaphysical level) comes with degeneration. It's managable when there are a few people doing it but there's real damage when it becomes a movement. The problem isn't the sodomy, it's the mental shallowness that surrounds it. There are women who wants to be surrounded by non-threatening men. There are men who makes a virtue out of being a fag. There is the managerial type who likes to coral people into impotent frameworks. There's the people who mistake their permissiveness for something noble, when it actuality it's just an absence of something, the path of least resistance.

This is a "secular" take against homosexuality (or against homosexuality as a project), and I'm afraid is probably much less effective than some priest just saying that it's not permitted by god. So that's most likely what will come later on.

>>213010269
Visualizing kissing someone you're not attracted to is self inserting, which has nothing to do with homophobia, it is completely natural.
East Asians don't criminalize homosexiality do they? No further gay rights are necessary.
>By that, do you mean developed nations?
No, I just meant high IQ nations, developed or not.

>>213010435
>East Asians don't criminalize homosexiality do they? No further gay rights are necessary.
I mean in that case we are already on the same page. Sodomy should be legal,but no gay marriage or adoption or anything like that.

If I may inquire, what exactly makes homosexuality more "natural" or "morally justifiable" than say bigamy, polyandry, cousin incest, cuckoldry etc?

>>213010131
>why does it illicit that disgust in you?
Because men are sexually unattractive to me same as fat people?

>>213010435
>Visualizing kissing someone you're not attracted to is self inserting, which has nothing to do with homophobia, it is completely natural.
Yeah it's completely natural to find gays gross if you're straight.

>>213010269
>>213010253
>>213008799
Thanks for proving my point about homophobia being a low IQ trait

>>213010269
Singapore and Japan both allow gay people to serve in the military, and Singapore, Japan and South Korea all have anti-discrimination laws (Japan and Korea at the local level re: cities, which is where gay people tend to move anyway).

Japan has a ton of gay media as well, its simply far less stigmatized in general

>>213010427
As a gay dude, I don't support LGBT at all, neither am I proud of my sexuality, the opposite, in fact. But you cannot deny the oppression we face worldwide. You talk as if there is nothing for us homosexuals to criticize, even in developed nations where homosexuality is legal. We face discrimination even amongsr family, for what?
>>213010575
I could even agree to outlaw sodomy, since it causes nothing but STDs, AIDs and health problems.
>what exactly makes homosexuality more "natural" or "morally justifiable" than say bigamy, polyandry, cousin incest, cuckoldry etc?
Incest, for one, can cause genetic disorders, so it inherently immoral.
And I think polygamy is completely natural, since ideally only top 10% of men should pass on their genes.

>>213009991
yeah?

>>213010709
>Incest, for one, can cause genetic disorders, so it inherently immoral.
And homosexuality causes STDs like AIDs, which you seem to agree with so now I'm confused.

Also, does that mean gay incest/incest with protection okay? Let's assume two cousins (we're setting the limit to cousins here in order to avoid inappropriate dynamics brought about by parent-child relationships and sivling relationships)
>But you cannot deny the oppression we face worldwide
I feel like that doesn't necessarily justify sodomy either. I think of it this way, just because there were times in the past where someone could be tortured and killed for stealing a loaf of bread doesn't mean thievery is okay.

>>213010920
The STD argument is also brought forth by retards like you. Its not amoral since these only get contracted to the people having sex. If i myself do an activity that gives myself a higher risk in something thats not amoral.
The incest argument is just one that derails in mindless tautology.
No, the act itself is not amoral, the implications just usually are.

>>213010920
Homosexuality itself does not cause any of that. Sodomy does.
>incest with protection
What?
Incest between a man and a woman is immoral for the reasons already explained. Incest between homosexuals does not exist, or is simply unharmful.
>I feel like that doesn't necessarily justify sodomy either
Why are you conflating homosexuality with sodomy?

>>213010709
>As a gay dude, I don't support LGBT at all,
[Goes on to ramble about discrimination]
Uhh?

>>213011131
>>213011132
Sodomy as in the act of homosexual sex.

>>213011235
Sodomy generally refers to anal penetration ftr.

>>213011273
I think anal penetration is weird at best and homosexuality is essentially a relationship centered entirely around the act of anal sex.

>>213010709
>But you cannot deny the oppression we face worldwide. You talk as if there is nothing for us homosexuals to criticize, even in developed nations where homosexuality is legal. We face discrimination even amongsr family, for what?

I don't deny that there's discrimination but let's put it this way: what if me and my friends started discriminating people with moles. Would the mole party, who fights for the liberty and freedom for people with moles, be a good political project? In some sense, yes, but it's also an insular and limited project. The danger with a political project is that it never stops at a reasonable point ("we'd like it if people who discriminate people with moles to do it a bit less") but instead it mutates into an unsustainable framework which causes derangement in its proponents ("people with moles are actually more virtuous and have a greater insight into matters because of their suffering, actually, it's the people without moles who are the problem")

I'm not being very normative right now, I'm just observing a phenomena

>>213011235
Homosexuality can be just a romantic relationship, it doesn't have to be anal sex anon. Even oral sex is more common among homosexuals

>>213011367
>"people with moles are actually more virtuous and have a greater insight into matters because of their suffering, actually, it's the people without moles who are the problem
This literally almost never happens. Its just straight people victim complex

>>213006350 (OP)
Chuds love parroting this catching article headline but they will never ever actually read it. Nor will they look up where this study was conducted.

>>213011339
Obviously not necessarily true, some cultures like Greece mostly centered on non-penetrative sex between men. Also lesbians still exist.

Homosexual males are on average more intelligent and less criminal than other people

>>213006350 (OP)
maggotbros... we got too cocky

>>213008263
being disgusted by diseased people is a natural human survival instinct.

>>213011491
Chuds start with being angry, find a convenient target for their anger, then walk backward from there to try to find random bullshit that supports it, such as a cherry picked and clipped headline with zero context.
I will go so far as to say this is the main hallmark of modern chuds vs normies.

>>213006350 (OP)
I wouldn't say it is stress. Its just grim.
Now two ladies kissing, I am game. Bust out the deck chairs for that.

>>213011589
>A spoiled kid being disgusted by vegetables should be a basis for moral reasoning because feelings are natural or something
Its an idiotic excuse

>>213011472
>>213011532

I don't know, I find the idea of a homosexual relationship that doesn't involve anal to be an extreme exception. If al homosexual relationships were chaste in Socrates-esque way, then I guess they'd be technically okay.

Though I still haven't heard a real argument against the fact that 90% of people find homosexuality viscerally revolting.

>>213011483
I'm not worried about being loaded onto trains by the LGBTQ mafia, I'm talking about a mental framework which animates and deranges people

I don't deny the political and institutional headway made by engaging in these political projects, I'm saying that it's ultimately bad because it mentally aligns its proponents with something which is ultimately detrimental (to them and society at large) and unsustainable

>>213011671
>90% of people find homosexuality viscerally revolting.
Its much less in developed countries. The more accepted it gets the less people are disgusted.
Like i said before feelings are not basis for moral judgement unless you are an ooga booga caveman or a kid mentally

>>213011657
a kid being disgusted by a vegetable looking weird because it has the potential of being diseased or spoilt is a natural response.
we are like this for survival and it's good.

>>213011657
To give you some perspective, I think of it like people eating alternate types of meat. Like, imagine a guy who eats rats. Wouldn't that elicit a visceral reaction from you? But just like how people argue that homosexuality isn't any different from heterosexuality, this guy could argue that it's no different from eating chicken or beef or pork. Diseases? He catches them exclusively from the forest and cooks them thoroughly, so that's not a problem. See what I'm getting at here? Would you say that it's morally okay to eat rats?

>>213011776
>we are like this for survival and it's good
And then we grow up and learn that brown spots on bananas wont kill us.
>>213011789
>Would you say that it's morally okay to eat rats?
Yes retard. Morals have nothing to do with people finding it disgusting. If for some reason rat meat became the only way to produce protein rich food after a few years society would eat it without problems. Look at some people eating larvae and stuff.

>>213011595
Yep, here's another study linked in that article. And with a little bit more than 120 participants from Utah.
Interesting, innit.

>>213011132
>>incest with protection
>What?
>Incest between a man and a woman is immoral for the reasons already explained
I meant an incestuous relationship where the guy uses a condom and the girl takes a pill

>>213011671
Will you address the existence of lesbians or?

> I find the idea of a homosexual relationship that doesn't involve anal to be an extreme exception.
Oral sex is the more common sex act iirc. Anal sex is definitely part of most modern gay mens life but it hasn't always been that way (see Greece) nor does it necessarily have to be that way

I'd get a blowjob off a cute twink/tranny, but that's as far as I'd go

>>213011671
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1114912/
Study from ~25 years ago, but at that time 1/3 of gay men didn't engage in anal sex. It might have changed from that time but I definitely know those guys are out there still

Homophobes are just fixated on anal for their own reasons

>>213012379
lesbians have the richest concentration of risk factors for breast cancer than any subset of women in the world. They have higher risks for cervical cancers and hepatitis C
>Anal sex is definitely part of most modern gay mens life but it hasn't always been that way
Sodomy laws are usually referred to as "anti gay laws" in a way that I haven't seen applied to laws against oral sex (which are just seen as puritanical)

The lengths you sodomites have to go to justify your existence is proof enough that it's unnatural

>>213007347
>I'm straight
Doubtful

>>213012036
>the whitest ethnostate in America has higher rates of homophobia.
I'm starting to recognize a pattern.

>>213012466
>lesbians have the richest concentration of risk factors for breast cancer than any subset of women in the world. They have higher risks for cervical cancers and hepatitis C
Do you think throwing lesbians in prison (or whatever) is going to make said health risks disappear? Be serious.

>richest concentration of risk factors for breast cancer than any subset of women in the world.
Source. How can you possibly claim this

"Sodomy law" is a catch all term for any anti-sex act law, often including oral sex:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States
And often even allowing straight anal and not gay anal.

>>213012776
>Do you think throwing lesbians in prison (or whatever) is going to make said health risks disappear?
I mean, it would make them less likely to engage in it but either way, you keep putting words in my mouth. I don't think homosexuality should be illegal. I just don't support gay marriage or adoption, and think Section 28 (UK) and Don't Ask, Don't Tell was the right idea.

Basically, I don't support anything beyond it being legal, and maybe some kind of civil union thing for hospital visitation rights and stuff like that.

>>213012776
>Source. How can you possibly claim this
http://sti.bmj.com/content/76/5/345.full

>>213012587
And what pattern is that?

>>213012441
What your link suggests is that 1/3rd don't engage in it regularly. Which means that 70% do. I mean sure, 1/3rd of straights don't engage in penis in vagina sex regularly either. Doesn't mean that's not an integral component of heterosexual sex.

I envy the gay man, he is happy and has all his romantic and sexual needs fulfilled by his fellow Man, he is not at the mercy of a woman, he is truly free in this aspect

The average looking homosexual is happier than the average looking straight, i seethe that i dont find men attractive even if i try to

I won't say it's immoral but it is pretty disgusting
Do whatever you want idc just stay the fuck away from me you nasty freaks

I will say I've never met a homo who seems right in the head. Every single one seems off somehow, whether that's being autistic, mildly psychopathic, hypersexual, or having pretty extreme issues with their sense of masculinity..
I remember seeing a study awhile back which claimed they compared gay men with straight men's disgust responses and found that gay men had an unusually inhibited sense of disgust.....
I'm not gonna police what anyone does with his dick, but idk homos just seem fucked in the head somehow

*makes everyone in thread gag in disgust especially the indian saar*

>>213006350 (OP)
This was done on a bunch of mormons btw. Homophobia is a spook.

>>213013302
The homos I've met also have something off about them.
I don't know how they're not normal men but also like dick.
Doesn't even have to be extreme. But just pettyness or mannerisms are always off.

I don't hide that I'm one and I've never had a problem (family, school/college, workplace) except getting sucker punched in the head once
I also don't bring it up unless it's relevant and only look somewhat gay

>>213013302
>>213014097
I truly am thankful that you guys recognize that, and I wish more people did. Homosexuality isn't just a different orientation, it is combination of phenotypical and neurological differences, caused by both genetics and the enviornment (such as the mother's womb). Largest study ever conducted on sexual orientations found that homosexual men and heterosexual women share similarities in certain cognitive and brain characteristics, potentially due to shared developmental pathways influenced by prenatal hormone exposure. Other studies have shown that the suprachiasmatic nucleus (a region of hypothalamus), which is involved in regulating circadian rhythms, is larger in homosexual men compared to heterosexual men, similar to heterosexual women. The difference of index finger average face of heterosexual men vs homosexual men (look it up) are staggering. These studies suggest the strong genetic influence, and mental instability you mentioned is partly due to this as well as repression and cultural stigma. We gay men are something between men and women, and while I believe it's naturally occuring phenomenon, it's still horrible and I don't like being this way. The least socity could do is accept us for the way we are, but that is never going to happen, so I find all the efforts fruitless.
I'm closeted but no one has thought I'm gay, even though it would be quite easy to tell just by personality traits alone, let alone voice, face etc.

>>213014776
(not from Bahamas btw, ignore the flag)

>>213012914
No studies say that lesbians have higher rate of breast cancer BECAUSE they caught cancer from vaginas. Rather lesbians are more likely to smoke, drink, and overeat. Bisexual women have the highest rates of all.

> I just don't support gay marriage
How will banning gay people from getting married help lower lesbian breast cancer? Be serious.

>maybe some kind of civil union thing for hospital visitation rights and stuff like that.
So you do support gay marriage in all but name? This was the original compromise gay people of my childhood begged homophobes for (and were turned down almost every time outside a small handful of blue states)

>>213012953
Your link does not say that "lesbians have the highest breast cancer of any group of women"

The gay people I've known in real life have been alright. I've had a high opinion of many of them.
The gay people I've seen on this website are probably the group of people I hate most. I think it's probably due to Europeans being insufferable generally and most gays on this site are European.

>>213014623
why are you gay?

>>213008263
Low IQ - i hate fags
Midwit IQ - love is love
High IQ - fags doom nations

>>213015691
Except gay men have higher IQ and homophobes have lower IQ.

>fags doom nations
If this were true than every nation would be doomed. If anything fall of the Roman Empire occurred as laws banning homosexuality started to be enforced

>>213011589
Mashallah indeed
australia needs more arabs to heal the country

It can't be true that straight guys get grossed out by 2 men kissing... because I am straight, and I get a rush when I see that sort of stuff.

>>213006350 (OP)
not well

>>213016554
mate..

I've never seen any faggot couples now that I think about it. What really makes me feel angry is the idea that gay people are just like straight people and that they should be allowed to adopt children.
There are thousands of reasons why that should not be allowed.

>>213019534
Name one

>>213006350 (OP)
Unpleasant

>>213019564
Statistically unlikely incidents in Belgium relating to young children with monkey pox

>>213019627
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean

Im bi, likes man more, but im disgusted by homosexual culture. Like i love watching men kiss themselves and fucking each other but pls no LARPing as a woman, dont force your voice etc

I like non White Men

>>213015716
gay men have higher iq enough to create aids

powerful

what you find gross is in part cultural
see muslims pork

FUCK HOMOSEXUALS. THEY ARE DEGENERATES AND YES IT IS DISGUSTING SEEING 2 MEN KISS OR TOUCH.

FUCKING FAGGOTS WITH THEIR ANAL WORMS AND MONKEYPOX.

>>213006350 (OP)
that was a study about mormons doe
are you a mormon? religitards are mentally ill so it can't be helped that they're fragile

Total faggot death

Fill the thread with faggot doomscrolling til they want to actually 41% like the trannies.

>>213023869
Looking into this, the guy seemed extremely mentally ill and annoying to be around.

Long live Trump. Four more years.https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/most-lgbtq-adults-expect-trumps-policies-to-affect-gay-lesbian-bisexual-and-trans-people-negatively/

Homophobia is purely a by-product of cultural norms that enforce fertility and religiosity, and now people are trying to justify this centuries old, obsolete tradition and culture by any other means necessary, even if not supported by empirical evidences.
Homosexuals do nothing to you personally, but you still choose to viciously attack them, that speaks of your low IQ if anything.

>>213024144
low IQ people make up the majority of the planet
hilariously they also think they're high IQ