>>213013718 (OP)
Italians would be among the first Europeans to eat tomatoes though
Columbus was Italian
You take some seeds and less than a year later you can grow them at home
Wild tomatoes looked like this before selective cultivation
But yes, when an Italian says that his family recipe includes tomatoes that might only go back for 30 generations, so only several times as many to not be considered genetically relatives anymore so it's basically not valid culture and the same as mcdonalds hehe #owned
>>213013718 (OP)
... and potatoes... and peppers...
Lager yeast popped up around the same time. Blonde beer didn't happen until the early 1700's, and modern blonde lager/pilsner until the 1830's.
It really doesn't take much for something to become "traditional". If your grandparents did it, and taught your parents who then taught you, that's a tradition - all within 50-75 years.
>>213014074
There are ingredients that came from Europe to the americas as well
More of them actually than the other way around which makes sense if you look at a world map
>>213014123
The joys of subsistence living, and fuck-all for easy-to-domesticate animals.
My dad's got a recipe in ojibwe for cuy with chilies, masa, and some kind of shallot/ramp. I've done it with pork and it weren't bad, but I don't think I could mangle a bunch of guinea pigs to see what was worth bringing that bullshit thousands of kilometers north.
>>213013718 (OP)
...and yet it's still inextricably linked to Italian culture,.much like coffee lmaoooo fucking cocksucking faggots are on all sorts of copium nowadays.
Coffee is defacto Italian now. It's linked to their culture, their identity and turned it into their own by their ability to romanticise it in a way no one else has. It doesn'tatter that they didn't discover it. The same goes for tomatoes. Cope and seethe.
>insert random criticism on European food or everything else not being 100% European because that fruit/vegetable/or whatever was originally from another continent
Usual inferiority complex brown comment on social media
>>213014342
I think wheat is also up there in importance.
Yeah the puebla were making tortillas out of maize before the transatlantic trade happened, but bread became possible with the arrival of old-world grain.
>>213014417
The bannock and firewater made us all fat and shiddy because we have absolute garbage impulse control... and in my family, at least, we didn't breed that out until we ran out of toner.
But in general, yeah, wheat, barley, black pepper, proper onions and garlic, a whole whack of green veggies, and the aforementioned farmable food animals.
>>213013718 (OP)
How do they not lose half of the tomatoes to birds?
When I eat breakfast outside and go inside to refill a glass of milk for 2 minutes some fucking bird has landed and stolen half of my breakfast.
>>213014544 >Yes, birds do eat tomatoes. Ripe, red tomatoes are particularly attractive to many bird species, including mockingbirds, cardinals, sparrows, and starlings. Birds are drawn to the color and juiciness of ripe tomatoes, using them for both food and hydration.