You will live to see Norway plunged back into the third world as renewables and nuclear continue to take over.

That's just fantastic.

What are other Norwegian industries?

>>213020201
Black Metal

they have a big welfare fund

>>213020201
Killing whales

>>213020184 (OP)
>renewables
Can't completely replace gas and oil
>and nuclear
We'll need to wait for all the boomers to die off before we can go full nuclear so 30+ years

>>213020201
nothing it was a thirdie country with gravel roads before the 70s norweigans cant invent and build industries like us swedes

>>213020225
where do they store the money

>>213020306
>norweigans cant invent and build industries like us swedes
But they are more BASED than you guys and that's all that matters

>>213020318
They have a comically oversized vault full of money like scrooge mcduck

>>213020281
>Can't completely replace gas and oil
Demand WILL massively decrease and high-cost production countries like Norway will be the first to lose as Arabs will continue flooding the market.

>>213020184 (OP)
why are you butthurt about Norway saar did they decline your visa application?

>>213020184 (OP)
Unfortunately we won't. Norway has massive oil funds full of money and stoncks

>>213020184 (OP)
I am already watching this phenomenon happen in real time in a country called Australia. Maybe you've heard of it.

>>213020434
Demand will not decrease especially not with AI starting to suck more and more energy. As we produce more energy consumption also grows

>>213020505
we do be kinda zany down here

>>213020518
>AI will save us saaaar
Holy cope.

>>213020318
assets, mostly stocks. norway has investments in probably every major company you could imagine

>meanwhile, the second biggest party in Norway
We're so fucked

>>213020505
*click* uh-oh ZA bro, looks like this post used too much power and it's time for your daily blackout

>>213020539
Nice reading comprehension

>>213020545
so the money doesn't actually exist?

>>213020454
He's seething because if we didn't have dickhead politicians who sold us out we'd be in the same financial boat

interesting norway fact: the norwegian government (or it might have been just one of their funds) owns, like, 2% of all the listed shares in the world

>>213020184 (OP)
I don't think that we'll never gonna stop using oil and natural gas till we die(the consumption will not go down as dramatically as you think), but their hypocrisy is truly amazing. Like their pension fund will imtimidate that they will never invest at companies that are doing some dirty works(i.e. defence, mining, etc) but all this penison funds money is straight out of their oil and gas sales and act as if they're some sort of green energy snake oil salesman.

>>213020281
Tbf renewables are such a meme. Yet even though if they somehow manage to replace all the "conventional" power stations(it already is such an unrealistic assuming) we'll keep using oil and gas.

>>213020733
>renewables are such a meme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_renewable_electricity_production
A lot of countries already get a majority of their power mix from renewables. You're just ignorant

>>213020733
Nordic and Germanic "people" are very arrogant and hypocritical. See Germans with their Volkswagen emissions scandal or them wanting exclude nuclear from the approved clean energy list to fuck over France

>>213020829
Yeah europeans are crazy with muh green renewable energy. And you can't see now whats happening? All the manufacturing jobs going to China, India, SEA. Businesses in the UK now have to pay for the most expensive industrial electricity. Germany which once was the workshop of the Europe? Lmao they're completely fucked now.

>>213020874
Did you even look through the data? It's not just euros

>>213020184 (OP)
Oil is used for plastic, lubricant, medicine, it's impossible to not use it. Plus Europe is being cut off from middle east and russian oil so we'll need other sources like Canadia, USA, Norway, Scotland

>>213020884
Yeah i know its going worldwide yet europeans have wasted too much money on it, thats why i'm talking about europe. Look at how BP is now doing, the company that really believed that renewable is their new future and oil/gas will be completely gone lol.

>>213020978
The problem is that opening new oil and gas ventures is unlikely to be profitable at all, at least not in the near future. Meanwhile, at least here in Norway the oil and gas industry is monopolizing a lot of technical personnel.

>>213020978
>europeans have wasted too much money on it
So they should just do nothing then? They have the resources and technical know-how to set a good example for others

>>213021027
They couldve done better than deindustralising themselves and outsourcing all the manufacturing industries to chinks and jeets.

>>213021054
We couldn't be able to have the way of life and level of wealth we have if all the shit we have and buy was made here, same for americans, we had to outsource to low wage countries. Imagine a smartphone made in Germany, even in France or Italy it would be 10 times the price you pay for it now.

>>213021054
>deindustralising themselves
This would have happened independently despite renewables because of neoliberalism/opportunity cost between nations

>>213020184 (OP)
>all thoose engineers, jobs, blue collars and small business only in it for the oil
>how could they possibly change and do something else?
> they already got the tooling, skill and expertice what else can they possibly do thats related?

>>213020574
Money in general doesn't exist, it's all debt. Rich people do not sit on piles of money, they have equities

>>213021108
>Rich people do not sit on piles of money, they have equities
This guy knows

>>213020201
Norway is a big fishing village with some sheep herding on the side.

>>213020539
He's kind of got a point the tail (energy, semiconductors) seems like it's been wagging the dog (software)

>>213021077
>>213021091
Of course i understand outsourcing is inevitable now, and soaring energy price wouldn't be the only factor thats causing outsourcing.

But its really clear that its one of the biggest reason.

https://www.steelradar.com/en/high-electricity-prices-impacting-european-steel-industry/
https://www.opis.com/resources/energy-market-news-from-opis/no-sign-of-recovery-for-europe-chemical-industry-amid-high-energy-prices-tax/

>>213021243
The problem is more so the transfer and storage of energy thoughbeit.

>>213021258
Yeah and that would cause more problems and more (unnecessary) investing is now in demand, which leads to higher energy price.

>>213021243
Europe electricity price are high because germans are retarded and pushed for the price of electricity to be indexed on gas price. Plus we have this scam in France where the nuclear electricity producer must sell at a loss on a private market for private electricity distributors who will just sell it 10 times the price and pocket the benefit, these businesses never invested one euro in power plants, distribution infrastructure. It's kiked to the bone, electricity in France could be almost free, in Germany the CIA puppet Greenpeace pushed for dismantling all nuclear energy. It's all "bad" (but intentional) choices and way to do that make electricity expensive now.
For the chemical industry, the environnement protection laws forbid us to make batteries, semi conductors, even metallurgy at a reasonable cost so we outsource it in countries where it's children doing it and destroying their countries.

>>213021336
I think he's just obsessed with justifying his point because he wants to justify his own country's relative poor performance on renewable energy

>>213021336
Your fault for not dismembering g*rmany in 1918 tbf

>>213021399
>poor performance on renewable energy
it's more a blessing than anything else

>>213021336
to long didnt read, but also electrocity is basicly free here, good for us bad for you, our dams are flowing over we have the capacity to produce electricity, we dont have the capacity to transfer it.

>>213021399
Don't worry, leftoids here are trying to oursource our industry to chinks with the very same way that europeans are doing.

>>213020184 (OP)
2 of our 3 biggest exports are fossil fuels

>>213020184 (OP)
Very nice... btw did you know that Oslo is the wealthiest nordic city? No other nordic city is even close on matching it.
Driving in the nordic super city looks like this https://youtube.com/watch?v=7i3FPmD01Yw

>>213020184 (OP)
no way

>>213022689
It is because of Oslo that the myth of Nordic wealth was created, even though it is only in Oslo that there is extreme wealthy life style. No other nordic place or city can compete

>>213020201
Fishing, fish farming, government subsidies, neeting, warm hands (immigrants), and government daycare (1/3 of all working adults are employed by the government)

>>213021105
We have no companies or gründere, i.e. someone to hire these people after the oil. And they are very specialised in the oil industry specifically so its not so easy for them to switch

Imagine working for the FSB in instead of being in a successful place like Norway.

>>213020201
Yara. That company invented modern fertilizer which are used all over the world today.

>>213020184 (OP)
Two more weeks