How come people pretend these dilapidated type of neighbourhoods are the norm for Britain and not some extreme outlier?

London looks like that tho

not an outlier, most of the north is like this

>>213084369
>>213084381
Bitch please enough with the tomfoolery

>>213084407
no foolery only facts

>>213084318 (OP)
why would an abandoned building get costly maintenance, what for? that would be waste of money
don't sweden know the concept of a ghost town? in formerly industrialized countries there are dozens of cities people leave in droves and no one wants to live in so obviously many buildings will be just left to rot because even demolishing them would take too much money than it is worth (no one would buy even an empty building plot there)

>>213084559
He's just using reverse psychology.

>>213084318 (OP)
Wait until they see what the largest economy's towns look like...

What's stopping the Norf from looking more livable like Scandinavia?
What's stopping the Souf from looking more lively like the Netherlands?

It's like the UK just decided to go with some depressing aesthetic.

The YOOKAY economy is a bunch of jewish bankers in London and brown serfs

>>213084608
london above all chud

>>213084608
>What's stopping the Norf from looking more livable like Scandinavia?
no cheap resources and energy? (still) too high population density?
>What's stopping the Souf from looking more lively like the Netherlands?
British and Dutch urban planning is pretty much the same, just British houses are on average much older so they're harder and more expensive to maintain properly. Most Dutch terraced housing comes from the post-WW2 development while in Britain it's largely 19th century stock.

>>213084318 (OP)
That's the residence of their monarch, King Nigel X

I feel like Brits are actually pretty communistic at heart and want to be members of a hive yet they are scared of tall buildings so they build horizontal commieblock-equivalents so they can hear their neighbours dogs barking and their wives farting.

>>213084381
>most of the north is like this
really?

>>213084830
yeah it's post industrial ruin
detroit would be your closest comparison

>>213084830
no

>>213084860
ah
yea detroit is run down, phrasing it like that puts things into context well.

I guess my confusion comes from seeing london last year, it's literally the most pleasant and exciting city I've ever seen, it also didn't feel unsafe or rundown ANYWHERE even in the outskirts. I don't understand why brits complain so much when every part of the UK I've seen was beautiful and so much of life in the UK is a straight upgrade from life in the USA.

Food in the UK is almost always better than in the US. like food standards in the USA are just fucking terrible.
General quality of life is higher there. The prices are actually often lower than what we pay in the USA.

The big downside is salary of course. But purely comparing cities in the USA to London, london almost always wins.

>>213085017
NYC mogs

>>213085052
No, not at all. NYC is less safe, it's FAR dirtier, it's more expensive, it's harder to get around, and it's just not as exciting as london on most days.

In my opinion the only pros are the intellectual scene in nyc having a slight edge on london (although it's very close) and, of course the salaries being much higher for most jobs.

>>213084318 (OP)
excellent place for a potential barber shop i reckon

>>213084318 (OP)
why do rightoids still defend capitalism when it does this

>>213085167
I rather live in the slums of Mogadishu than London

>>213084608
Capitalism

>>213085017
it's just shutins who've overdosed on propaganda and tabloids

>>213086240
>meanwhile, under socialism:

>>213086240
You can cut out the anglo-saxon protestant part and just be honest schlomo

>>213084318 (OP)
the uk is one rich city attached to poor country

>>213084318 (OP)
The Midlands unironically look like that doeever

>>213084318 (OP)
Im getting vietnam flashbacks. Pair this brick favela """"aesthetic"""" with some asshole drunk bullying his little dog all day next door and loud TV the other next door and its literally suicide inducing.

>>213084826
What you say kinda makes sense, maybe. I got filtered hard when I tried living there so Im guessing you have to be at least somewhat like this to not be filtered for years and years and a lifetime.

>>213084697
british and dutch urban planning are very different
you are utterly clueless

Outside of London the UK is eastern europe tier

>>213089101
>saar here in Holland the shade of red in our bricks is #ff0000 while in Britain it's #ff0002 we are very different saar!

>>213089226
now i know why we feel at home there

>>213089226
>only rich city in the UK
>is not even british anymore
Grim

property become fucking expensive, so it rent, so is construction

that shithole of a building in Poopieshire on Loo town would cost you
- 3000 pounds to rent
or
- 350.000 pounds to buy
- 350.000 pounds to repair

thats 700k for a derelict builing in depressive town to buy and repair minus the all planning headache and waste of time.

No wonder smaller towns ans cities are dying in UK.
Also, UK is nowhere East Europe tier, as pioneers of suburb living even before yanks white flight, British countryside is insanely comfy and beautiful. It's just British grade B and C cities needs redevelopment and attention. Middlesborough, Grimsby, etc

Never understood the anger at British towns and cities looking a little soulful tbqh. You can walk 10 minutes from a city center and be in wonderful, lush, green countryside which doesn't exist in suburbanized hellholes like America.

It literally took me the same time to walk from the center of Newcastle to pleasant rolling moorland on the outskirts as it does for me to drive to work in the morning (2 hours) and I didn't even break a sweat because the environment is so beautifully temperate - a perfect 60-70 degrees

>>213089641
thank you for supporting newcastle's tourism industry

>>213089641
Also keep in mind, 2 hours of straight driving still keeps me firmly planted in the suburbs of my city. There are people commuting from even further beyond, with zero traffic my drive would still be 1hr15mins

>>213089541
the countryside is not suburbia

>>213089680
I felt bad for them the entire time, Newcastle is clearly up and coming once again but everyone I spoke to felt like they were basically being looked down upon by Londoners and unable to actually revitalize their city the ways they wanted. It is actually a great tourist city for history buffs, I hiked partway down Hadrian's Wall and day tripped to Lindisfarne from there

Yet I never met any other international tourists the entire time I was there - the only other brown people I met were locals

>>213084381
I live in a northern town. It isn't dilapidated at all here

>>213089226
>meanwhile in London

>>213090290
>still the same chain brands and bookies
hmmm

>>213089830
yeah it's rough with newcastle and just the north east as a whole 'cause it's so isolated from the rest of the country. anyone under 35 wants to get out as soon as possible, so then the government sees a young growing population in london and assumes their policies are working, which i suppose in a ruthless sense they are

>>213089742
both, suburbs and countryside
this is random suburb of Luton, one of the worst towns in England

if eastern europe would look like that i would piss my pants from happiness

>>213084318 (OP)
This isn't an outlier. High streets are dying all over the country because they only open during office hours (i.e. when everyone is at work) and it's a pain in the arse to find parking. Online shopping or dedicated retail parks are much more convenient, the only high street shops that can survive are vape shops and bookies (and those are probably just fronts for money laundering).

>>213090643
Newcastle literally sits on one of the busiest domestic rail lines in the UK between Edinburgh and King's Cross. Yet Edinburgh is an international tourist sensation for basically 10 blocks of "historic city" and young people flocked there in the thousands despite Newcastle being less expensive and closer to London by an hour by train.

>>213090530
That's how things are now. The local pharmacy couldn't compete with Boots. We still have a lot of non-Greggs bakeries though. But that's basically all we have anymore. Bakeries and cafes

>>213084318 (OP)
The average bong street looks like this.

>>213090749
is this macclesfield

>>213090809
I see now why people say my town is nice
>>213090850
No, it's Chesterfield

>>213090850
>>213090893
I used to think this place was grim

>>213090809
sovl

>>213090970

>>213090744
Trains are expensive, slow and unreliable outside of London. Most tourists that fly into London won't bother venturing outside of it much because of this. If they do want to do day trips from London then they'd probably stick to places in the South like Stonehenge, Windsor Castle, Oxford, Cambridge, Bath, etc. And while Newcastle isn't too far from Scotland, if someone is visiting Scotland then they probably want to stay in Scotland.

Newcastle and most other Northern English towns are just too far out the way for most tourists, unless someone is willing to spend a couple of weeks doing a tour of the whole island.

>>213084318 (OP)
i don't know

>>213090749
CHEZ VEGAS

>>213090893
>Chesterfield
derbyshire is NOT the norf

>>213094318
Anything north of Cambridge is norf.

>>213094318
If cut and foot rhyme, it's the north

>>213085017
i feel living and visiting some where are very different experiences

>>213090377
VGH HOME

>>213090377
remember when that building burned down and they were blaming the builders and not the BAME's who have 45 extension cords plugged into each other and covering the floor of their apartments?

>>213094318
based
frankly sick and tired of the midlands being ignored

>>213097343
But the Midlands includes Brummieland. I'd rather be Norf FC

>>213084318 (OP)
That town looks like it's full of non-whites

>>213091250
>Trains are expensive, slow and unreliable outside of London
Compared to even the best public transit in America, your rural trains may as well be the Shinkansen