What did they think of each other before the war?

Russians were mad at Ukies for having more legitimate claims to the Viking legacy

>>213103789
>started out in Novgorod
>Kiev conquered from the Khazars
>TSAAAAAR IT'S RUS ISN'T RUZZIA SEE IT SAYS TURKYIVAN RUS IN THE NAME

>>213103830
First of all, it started in Ladoga (Aldeigja)
Second of all, Muscovians completely ANNIHILATED and Subjugated Novgorod (Holmgarðr).

>>213103413 (OP)
I didn't think about them, they're not that interesting

>>213104013
>Muscovians completely ANNIHILATED and Subjugated Novgorod
Same thing happened with Vladimir and Kiev.

>>213103789
now Ukros also claim they wuz vikangz LMAO. Vikings were mostly in Novgorod-Holmegård

>>213104343
do you want to know how I know you're lying on the internet again?

>>213104568
You don't. You're just not taking your meds again

>>213103789
>Meanwhile how Swedes look in reality

>>213103413 (OP)
We were thinking of them as of a backwards rural province of Russia where everyone speaks with a funny yokel accent.

>>213104405
A bit anachronistic here,
It was the Princes of Kyiv (Könugarðr) that founded Moscow.
Retrospectively speaking, the latter turned out to be more deadly for them than even Mongols.

>>213104520
nah, the zenith of Rus’ was reached during the Kyivan period, including all the much coveted connections with the Byzantium

>>213104726
How are modern Ukrainians related to ancient Kiev though? They only have it because Russia bought it from Poland.

>>213104851
there’s none more related

>>213104923
Ukies DON'T look like that.
And in reality it was like this.

>>213104802
Most Viking settlements were around Novgorod like Staraja Ladoga, its were Vikings were sailing in from the Baltic sea Finnish Gulf and established trade posts

Vikings used Dniepr and Volga rivers as transit rivers to reach Constantinople and Iran. the Rurik dynasty moved the capital to Kiev and quickly assimilated into the Slavic culture, the Viking history in Kiev is much more limited

>>213104802
also the Dnieper river basin is connected to the Black Sea, Vikings/germanic peoples mostly settled along watersheds facing North for obvious reasons

>>213103789
Wrong, Turco-Persian rapebaby. Neither us, nor Ukros really care about your Viking legacy. It has always been about the Kievan Rus legacy and who is the true East Slav.

>>213105188
>who is the true East Slav.
And that would be?

>>213105037
That gopnik should be swapped for a dagestani borcuxa and we’re settled.
Anyway, Sweden really paid for its neutrality and decades of unbridled commie infiltration.

>>213105218
Depends on who like more, I guess.

>>213105218
Depends on who you like more, I guess.

>>213105188
>turco-persian rapebaby
There’s more chances of you being a direct descendant of Genghis-khan than me being a rape baby of any kind, lol

interesting comparison with Rus vikings are the Normans, basically a bunch of Danes and Norwegians under Rollo raiding the Latins of the Seine river mouth

became ruling class of the region and settling there after raiding Paris, were paid to keep out other Viking raiders and keep the peace

assimilated in a few generations into the French culture, converted to Christianity

so England was conquered by Vikings (Danelaw) and then conquered by Vikings larping as Romans

>>213105448
It's easier to say who hasn't ruled your shithole rather than who has.

>>213105448
>that Pic
How georgians believe they look.
>Pic related
How they look in reality.

>>213103413 (OP)
>What did they think of each other before the war?
There were two videos before the war (but after the 2014 events obviously) about how two guys wrapped in Ukrainian and Russian flags walked together along the streets of Russia and Ukraine respectively

In Russia, no one paid any attention to them (although some people even nodded to them in solidarity and peace). Only at the very end, some drunk homeless dude started arguing with them about something, but a policeman passed by and calmed him down

While in Ukraine... They quickly ran into troubles. Random people insulted them and some started to follow them. In the end, a group of people gathered and it nearly came to fight. Some people called the police, who came and confiscated Russian flag. In the end police detained them and forcibly took them to the station without charges

After the war started ukrainians get mad and YouTube removed these videos. You can see the difference

>>213105340
>Sweden really paid for its neutrality and decades of unbridled commie infiltration
>Sweden is cucked because of neutrality
Kek. What about France and UK, loyal whores of USA?

>>213105818
Unironically more European than you :)

>>213103413 (OP)
>caring what slavs think

>>213106057
You don't even speak an indo-european language, Gogi, lol. You're ab Arab just like shitalians, who speak an indo-european language at least.

>I'm vikang
>Nooo blyat I'm vikang
Lmao

>>213106151
Bye-bye, sweetheart.

>>213106191
don't make me call uncle ramzan to dissappear you, pidoras

>>213106183
We don't larp as vikangs though.

>>213105950
are you minimizing the extent of your infiltration ?

>>213106251
You'll disappear from here tonight though.

>>213106155
>eurojeet language family
lmao, is this really a criterion ?

From what I understand Ukrainians had a positive opinion of Russia and disliked the west before 2013 hence why they mainly kept electing people that licked Putins balls

>>213106262
Sweden was never a colonial superpower though.

>>213103413 (OP)

>>213106293
keep dreaming

>>213103413 (OP)
Unironically Ukraine had better relationship with Russia then with Poland

>>213106745
Why would I dream about? You're literally my personal clown to kek at.

is everyone had that abusive, sociopathic scumbag you tried befriend with or it's just me?

>>213106965
Nope.
You are either mentally ill or a woman, seek profesional help in both cases.

>>213106254
Yes you do, but you you’re so accustomed to it you don’t even notice it:
I.e. literally named yourselves after them.

>>213103413 (OP)
World was pretty chill until they started bickering.

>>213103413 (OP)
Brothers until russians had to ruin it for no reason

funny to think that if Putin hadn't chimp out in 2014 today Ukraine would still be close and friendly to Russia

>>213108219
>>213108309
usual suspects chiming in, do you think he should just sit and take that US glowop like a bitch from a Russian security perspective? if Ukrainian "nationalists" want to be servants and useful idiots of US deep states then yes conflict will absolutely explode

>>213108205
world was better if Ukrainians stopped acting like histrionic women on the world stage

>>213108531
what are you on about nigga. it was your standard ukrainian maidan. they would've elected some "pro-west" clown who would fail to deliver, boot him out and elect some putinist bootlicker again. that was literally ukrainian history up until putin decided to make a dumb decision in the middle of the night

>>213108531
So when are you going back to schweinhundian katsapostan again?

nah this guilt trip BS won't cut it, none of you libtards understand security policy is decoupled of your feefees

Siloviks were fine with Ukraine being West oriented, it could not allow to operate as a forward base and attack vector into Russia. a lot of Western NGOs are subversive elements from a security viewpoint and their contribution in Maidan sealed Ukrainian fate among aggressive warmongers like McCain and Nuland going to Ukraine as well

>>213108744
I hope you die screaming in agony, you're lower than fecal matter. You're agitating for ww3 and you must face excruciating terror and pain

>>213108773
For somebody who likes to claim that "facts don't care about your feelings" you are exhibiting extremely womanly behavior.

>>213108897
Which country is making false flags because you're not let in NATO and EU? talk about hysteria

You're not owed European and America lives to go die for your shithole simple as, a backwater shithole doesn't get decide the fate of NATO and EU simple as

I sure do remember the Ukrainian missile in Poland and your gay clown president stomping his little feet insisting it was Russian

yup this one is for the history books

>>213109074
I think you should really join a theater troupe, or maybe try creative writing. I think it would help channel your frustration with self into less self-destructing direction

>>213105218
Polacks.

>>213109288
Cute!
Millions must participate in trad activities.

>>213109288
Well do you want to answer my question on the security issue? It's not difficult and its about the root of the conflict
You don't get to talk around this one

>>213109375
Most definitely

Personally, I love spending time outdoors, especially fishing or hiking

>>213109720
See >>213109385

Care to reply, or are you going to do the typical Ukrainian irresponsible womanlike absence? Or going to snitch again

>>213109385
II just don't see the point of discussing these topics with someone who is clearly isn't doing it in good faith.

Henceforth, I'm suggesting you actually try to do something for yourself. Like going outside, for a change of pace. Ever considered trying rowing? Physical activity clears one's mind like nothing else.

Typical Ukrainian cowering and pretending to not listen in the face of real scary issues, grow up ffs

Your country is gambling with ww3, this is very dangerous when you're cowardly people like this. Zero, zilch, nada protests in Kiev against TCC psychopaths but precious anti corruption organ is the holy grail
May God have Mercy on us all and bless the souls of the innocent caught in web of lies and blond money

>>213109987
>blond money
Blood money

>>213104647
>Meanwhile, look at this farm animal

>>213109987
> ww3
nothing ever happens

>>213109987
I'm giving you free advice perhaps with my best intentions in mind I could muster (not even joking).

This website is like a poison to an unprepared mind and you are clearly in need of help.

>>213110085
Zelensky was attempting on numerous occasions to ignite a wider conflict, he is aware the current path is a lost cause

Biden was brinkmanship dancing back then, anyway 5% risk of nuclear war is 5% too high. Dr. Strangelove movie or similar should be mandatory curriculum in Ukraine, their post Soviet education system apparently has failed. I know delusional Ukrainians irl who have bizarre fantasies about Ukraine's geopolitical place in the world, hubris like this is usually punished harshly judging by 400 years of European war history

>>213109987
>ook ook ook
>nook nook nook

Take your time machine back to 2023, Ivan

>>213110198
I have family from mixed Ukrainian Russian background and had family members threatened irl by your Banderites, this is a very real issue for me
Banderites killed mixed Polish-Ukrainian people in Wolyn, now these gangsters are prostrating themselves to a foreign superpower across an Ocean and stabbing their countrymen in the back in the East
This is an issue you can't hide forever from

>>213110312
Taras needs to go back to the front

>>213110365
I’m genuinely curious: do you ever feel that this rage toward my country might actually reflect unresolved feelings and ideas you have about yourself?

>>213103413 (OP)
>russia
Doesn't care, treats them as the same people with a funny accent.
>ukraine
South and East don't care, treat them as the same people. Central (Kiev) is a mixed bag. East (Banderites) just hate everybody outside of their backwater village region, those got in power and established absolutely retarded policies which alienated the rest of the country.
>t. hohol

>>213103413 (OP)
>russia
Doesn't care, treats them as the same people with a funny accent.
>ukraine
South and East don't care, treat them as the same people. Central (Kiev) is a mixed bag. West (Banderites) just hate everybody outside of their backwater village region and love to wewuzz. Those got in power and established absolutely retarded policies which alienated the rest of the country and also tanked the post-soviet industry.
>t. hohol

Ukies and hohloshills be like

>Moscow, which appeared in history as a spin-off of Vladimir principality, one of the most dominant Rus principalities, which was by the way named after Vladimir the Great, who baptized Rus, and which liberated all Rus territories from Polish, Tatar and Lithuanian occupants, and united Rus again, has nothing to do with Rus, even though it's in the center of Rus territories
Those attempts to rewrite history are Orwellian tier

Did jannies autosage the thread?