Why is Israel so strong?
>America
But they lost to rice farmers. Cannot be them.

arabs suck and are undisciplined

>>213161806 (OP)
They are fighting countries that have been unstable since they were founded while themselves were being propped up by the world’s superpower.

>>213161893
Devil's advocate. I wouldn't be surprised if this was their plan. Martyrdom is so massive in these cultures. They bring their children to protests even if risk of death is high. Belief in afterlife can and will develop into cultures worshipping death.

because /int/ gives us power

>>213161806 (OP)
hebrew mindset
we should be stronger tho

They're not inhibited by moral boundaries. Neither are Hamas, but Israel has a lot of support from wealthy countries especially the US.

>>213161893
>>213162428
The vast majority of Westerners support Palestine and are celebrating the Hamas attacks, including 7 October. Nearly every European or American under the age of 30 is a Hamas supporter.

I have been surprised by the amount of opposition to Israel among all sectors of the American and European populations. it seems very clear to me at this point that your ruling class truly didn't expect this level of outrage and lack of support for Israel.

why are there so many threads about israel specifically during these hours, 2pm-4pm local time here

>>213162464
israel is the most important and coolest country

>>213162451
>The vast majority of Westerners support Palestine
I would rather say the majority of people who have any strong opinion on the conflict are very sympathetic to Palestine

>and are celebrating the Hamas attacks, including 7 October. Nearly every European or American under the age of 30 is a Hamas supporter.
this isn't true

>>213161806 (OP)
israelis are strong people

>>213161806 (OP)
country puts a lot of effort into the human resource, since we basically have nothing else. this way you get high quality people who can achieve a lot. combine that with tiny size so people are literally closer together, being constantly attacked so we have to innovate, and general jewish culture.

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>>213162296
This unironically
Rule 19 in full effect

>>213161893
this is common knowledge though. are euros/americans not aware of this?

>>213161806 (OP)
Vietnamese are stronger than Amerifats, who are stronger than Isn'traelis, who are stronger than Arabs.

>>213161806 (OP)
Americans killed the Vietnamese at a kill:death ratio of twenty to one.
Israel is strong because nobody’s stopping them like what happened due to the politics of the Vietnam war.

>>213167175
>Americans killed the Vietnamese at a kill:death ratio of twenty to one.
Yet Amerifats still lost(and Amerifat generals intentionally inflated Vietcong casualties and hid American casualties, to the point Amerifat soldiers used Vietcong propaganda to average the casualty numbers that Amerifat generals were underreporting.

>>213167321
Americans don't lose wars. They lose interest. Thirdies will cope.

>>213167175
youre attributing every north vietnamese casualty to american soldiers when the majority of soldiers on the anticommunist side were south vietnamese

>>213167391
That's some grade A copium

>>213161806 (OP)
jewish excellence

>>213167908
Nope. If none of your citizens are in danger, and you can quiet anytime without losing power, it's not a war. It's a campaign. A special military operation if you will.

>>213168050
>If none of your citizens are in danger
American soldiers are American citizens, and they were forced by the American government to fight a pointless war in another continent.

>>213168402
Yeah, and then they weren't forced and nothing changed. If the Vietnamese invaded America it would have been a completely different story. The point is that Americans didn't really see it the way people see war.

>>213168534
>and then they weren't forced and nothing changed
And what of the 58,000 Americans who died in the Vietnam war?

>>213168617
Sacrificed by their government for the sake of influence. They would have stayed dead even if the US won.

>>213161893
Desire to kill Palestinians en masse is prevalent in Israeli society and present at the highest level of government.

>I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed
>We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly
-Yoav Gallant, defence minister

>The government is rushing to erase Gaza and thank God we are erasing this evil. All of Gaza will be Jewish
-Amihai Eliyahu, minister of heritage

>Nobody will let us cause 2 million civilians to die of hunger, even though it might be justified and moral
-Bezalel Smotrich, finance minister

So sorry, when I hear Israel saying "we din du nuffin" you just sound like morons. Or maybe you think we're all gullible enough to believe you. We're not. You're cutting off food because you want them to die.

>>213168858
>what is a siege
Dumbass.

>>213167321
Not true. We bombed the shit out of places that we never admitted to. The politicians gave up because people thought it was wrong. That’s all they do, is feed the crowd whatever they want. Israel is the new Nazi. Even more so than the new Nazis in Ukraine. Each backed by the US.

>>213169054
That’s like saying the Warsaw Ghetto was a siege

>>213169135
No, it isn't, and you have to be incredibly stupid to make the comparison.
Hamas can simply release the hostages and disarm and nobody will suffer. They choose not to, and the Gazan population largely supports them. Their suffering is completely self inflicted.

>>213161806 (OP)
They're only strong against starving women and children
I could beat and rape any asthmatic, allergy ridden neurotic jew

>>213167175
>>213169116
>muh K/D
This cope again?

>>213169195
The pariah rogue zionist entity can simply give all the land and homes back to the people they stole it from. Food for thought!

>>213169195
They were told not to by your people. You are the bad guys.

>>213169306
loooooooool go die of alcoholism so Mehdi can replace you Paddy

>>213169349
They literally talk about killing us all you fucking moron

>>213161806 (OP)
The PAVN was a highly trained, highly motivated professional military fighting on their home turf against conscripts who knew the war was bullshit.

>>213169417
>They were told not to by your people
lol what

>>213169346
Half of those are debatable and or wrong.
>>213169447
>lol what
They create their own enemies to cull their own people. That is how they run the world through unnatural selection. They creat a god for everyone else to obey. They decide what’s on television and radio and still “poor oppressed little us.”

>>213169420
>They literally talk about killing us all you fucking moron
so do you

>>213169657
Interesting. If you admit to being a lesser race, manipulated and controlled by others. Do you really believe in your 'supremacy'?

>>213169657
ok schizo

>>213169715
And yet we don't actually do it, while they certainly attempt to

>>213169715
So what do you care?

>>213169420
I could pick you up and throw your pockmarked face into the ground in seconds. You'll be picking out grass from your braces for weeks

>>213169800
He cares about all human beings. Just last week he was protesting against the genocide of Druze in Syria.

>>213169727
You can't even fish

>>213169887
You can't even fish

>>213169195
You guys straight up killed more “hostages” than Hamas did, Mossad knew the attack was coming a year ago, you let it happen to justify finally annexing Gaza and ethnically cleansing it of your racial enemies

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>>213170126
Are we really supposed to believe that the glowies who were embedded so deep within Hezbollah and Iran to the point where they could kill their top generals by clicking one button somehow didn't see a ragtag flip flop militia preparing to attack right across the border? I mean I know you see us as gullible goy cattle but that's a step too far

>>213169965
You can't run or jump over a fence

Because it has the most powerful military in the world... doing its bidding.

>>213170298
1. Gaza isn't Lebanon or Iran
2. No one in Israel would allow something like that to happen willingly
3. Don't talk about things you don't understand

>>213169797
>And yet we don't actually do it, while they certainly attempt to
Israel has killed far more Palestinians than vice versa and it's not even close. I'm not saying that's from their own restraint but don't act like your hands are clean.

>>213169898
My government isn't supporting attacks on Druze, it's supporting attacks on Palestinians. Simple. Why do Israelis always think this is some "gotcha"?

>>213169195
Collective punishment is a war crime. Can't go 5 seconds without snitching on yourself can you?

>>213171255
You're such an idiot making those false equivalents. No matter how much people here might want Palis to be gone, we haven't done anything like that despite having the means. If they had the means, they'd slaughter us all. There's just no comparison and only an idiot would think those two are alike.
I'm mentioning the Druze because their fate (if we haven't intervened) is our fate if we stop fighting, while no Palis will die if they stop fighting.
>le siege is a crime....because i said so ok???? you have to let your enemy win!!
Enjoy your failing society.

>>213171505
Israel has currently killed well over 50,000 Palestinians in Gaza since Oct7, in an act of what by your own admission is collective punishment. Which is a war crime. Food supply is now restricted to a meagre flow of scurvy boxes, in a naked effort to starve the population. Israel is clearly edging on its kill count, exterminating as many Palestinians as possible without becoming a pariah state. Vast numbers of civilians are being killed, including infants, yet you say that Palestinians simply have to stop fighting to be safe. What fighting is an emaciated baby doing, exactly?

>>213172219
>in an act of what by your own admission is collective punishment
Literally making shit up. When your government turns your cities into military bases don't be surprised you're being besieged and suffering for it.
Again you're making completely retarded comparisons. We kill fighters under necessity, while they kill us out of genocidal hate. If you can't understand the difference your mind is twisted beyond repair.

>>213172512
>Literally making shit up. When your government turns your cities into military bases don't be surprised you're being besieged and suffering for it.
Nothing you're saying here is contradicting the accusation of collective punishment
>Again you're making completely retarded comparisons. We kill fighters under necessity, while they kill us out of genocidal hate.
You happily annihilate an entire hospital if there's a whiff of Hamas fighters there. You starve women and children to death. Don't talk to me about necessity.
>If you can't understand the difference your mind is twisted beyond repair.
You're as warped as every other Israeli I've talked to about this. You always get enraged at accusations of genocide or war crimes, then go on some bloodthirsty rant where you admit to war crimes or genocidal intent. Happens every fucking time.

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>>213173039
Nope, you're simply an idiot making up your own definition of "collective punishment". There's no punishment here, there's a state called war in a dense urban environment.
Your mind is either twisted or undeveloped because you can't distinguish between killing and murder, between defense and offense, between intent and necessity, between a people that loves life and a people that loves death. You can only think dichotomically, one-dimensionally.
>What fighting is an emaciated baby doing, exactly?
His family is fighting and puts him in the line of fire you fucking moron. What kind of pants-on-head retarded argument is that?
> Don't talk to me about necessity.
Okey dokey, we'll just stop so they can keep throwing rockets at us and kidnapping and slaughtering us lol! there's no necessity!
No wonder your country is collapsing with that kind of retardation.

>>213173097
You would think being richer than most European states for half a century would allow SA, Kuwait and Qatar to catch up education wise but I guess socio-economic circumstances make it impossible?

>>213169195
The (((hostages))) will never go down to zero just like survivors of the holocaust.
It's a blatant israeli lie that gets more obvious as Palestinians starve to death, yet these (((hostages))) magically have survived because Hamas is keeping them fed somehow.

>>213173276
>His family is fighting and puts him in the line of fire you fucking moron
This statement assumes that every single person is Gaza is fighting Israel. Because if that isn't true, then the baby's family are not necessarily combatants. And presumably you think all enemy combatants should be destroyed, therefore all families in Gaza are legitimate targets.

>There's no punishment here, there's a state called war in a dense urban environment.
Look at what you said here:
>They choose not to, and the Gazan population largely supports them. Their suffering is completely self inflicted.
You say "largely", meaning a significant fraction do not support them, yet you say the suffering of the Gazan's as a whole is deserved, because of this support. That is collective punishment.

>Okey dokey, we'll just stop so they can keep throwing rockets at us and kidnapping and slaughtering us lol! there's no necessity!
"Don't talk to me about X" is a rhetorical phrase. I guess your English isn't at the level to catch that, but it means "you're talking nonsense about this subject so I'm not interested in your opinion on it", it doesn't mean "X is unimportant so don't talk to me about it".

>>213173608
>This statement assumes that every single person is Gaza is fighting Israel.
Your statement assumes that all babies in Gaza have died. Only those who are kept in with fighting families did
It's not a collective punishment because there is no intent to punish.
>"you're talking nonsense about this subject so I'm not interested in your opinion on it"
lol. It's obvious you know nothing about this subject beyond reading a few cherrypicked headlines, otherwise you wouldn't try to make it about genocide. By the same definition, don't talk to me about this war that you know nothing about.

I think the genocide of paliniggers isn't real but it should be

Israel is very strong. That's proof that they don't need any money from the US govt

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Rice farmers are pretty strong thoughever

Vietnam had Chinese support in their war against us. Their more impressive feat was BTFOing the Chinese after they tried to expand their border as payment for helping them.

>>213169195
>Hamas can simply release the hostages and disarm and nobody will suffer.
That is just not true, Israel will keep doing the same and just change rethoric a bit.

>>213161806 (OP)
Jews are the chosen race, honed through centuries to be clever, resourceful and ruthlessly protective of their own interests.

Arabs, meanwhile, had an empire 1,000+ years ago, lost it, and have spent every day since being arrogant, lazy, and mostly retarded. Even without out help Israel would still be wiping them out.

>>213173716
>Your statement assumes that all babies in Gaza have died. Only those who are kept in with fighting families did
Babies are now dying or malnutrition, so whether their families are fighting Israel is irrelevant
>It's not a collective punishment because there is no intent to punish.
"they deserve it because a bad thing some of them did, but it's not punishment" what do you think punishment means, exactly?
>lol. It's obvious you know nothing about this subject beyond reading a few cherrypicked headlines
You're the one spitting out cookie cutter excuses while somehow failing to even effectively deny war crimes. Amazing yet very common.

>>213175457
They should all die, the world will be a better place

>>213175367
Exactly. Hamas could release all hostages and disarm tomorrow. Israel would walk in and occupy the entire Gaza strip, because of course they have to confirm that Hamas is unable to rearm, and ensure that some other armed group emerges. This will involve perversely intrusive and draconian measures on the people of Gaza, settlement of their land by Israelis, and subjugation into an apartheid system like the West Bank. And that's the best case scenario. The idea that Hamas just has to surrender and the people of Gaza can live in peace is horseshit.

>>213161931
Doubles advocate*

>>213175676
We should put them in death camps like you

>>213161806 (OP)
They have their back against the wall. It helps with motivation.

>>213161806 (OP)
israel doesnt farm rice we do tomatoes,cucumbers,wheat,oranges...

>>213175772
They should do my cucumber if you catch my drift

>>213175836
italians farm cucumbers too?

>>213169887
Lel fly to here to try it paddy, we are ready

>>213168858
The stuff this government says is straight up neo nazi tier vile

>>213168858
The stuff this government says is straight up neo nazi tier based