Thread 213176687

If japan was so good at making stuff just a few decades ago wtf happened?

Why do they suck at hardware AND software now?

Are they even prepared for an EV future where china dominates their auto industry too? japanese industrial titans are probably shitting their pants in fear right now

>>213176687 (OP)
neighbors mogged them hard. they are a tourism and childrens entertainment (vidya and cartoons) country now.

>>213176687 (OP)
>EV Future
nah japan is doing oki for that. they are piggybacking our EV tech

the future of auto industry is gonna be china vs france

>>213176687 (OP)
>EV
>Future
This will never happen

>>213177076
It won't happen in Russia but it will in the rest of the developed world.

If Mount Fuji blows up, will anime die?

>>213177189
EVs is just new commercial slop.

>>213177223
is it a volcano?

>>213176687 (OP)
>>213176995
>>213177031
Toyota had more profit than all of chink EV industry in 2024 COMBINED

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>>213177277
Yeah

>>213176687 (OP)
They probably have enough cultural influence/clout just to coast on that

>>213177031
nobody believes french can produce a car not made for monkeys renault is going bankrupt btw

every product I encountered in Japan mogged western shit on both quality and price. But they don’t reach out enough to global markets with their consumer goods, or the vagaries of international trade tack on 200% to the price and make it pointless.

>>213177409
Good use of the word "vagaries"

>>213177409
because japan doesn't have stupid western regulations that's why their consumer goods are so good

>>213177348
>renault
>going bankrupt
>when modern nissans and mitsubishis are literally rebadged renaults
???

>>213177409
or you can move to japan and export weeb shit to the west and make $$$

>>213176687 (OP)
Chang bros, the game is already over. Your junk cars turned out to be utterly unprofitable crap, while Toyota is having its golden period.

Top CCP Official Reveals China’s 30 Million Car Profits Are Less Than Toyota’s Single Profit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDWECRpJkNk

Russians Angrily Smash Chinese Cars, With Exports to Russia Plunging 50% Amid Targeted Wipeout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfnLcRLzsaw

>>213177521
Renault is literally less vaulabe today than it was in 1998 LOL LMAO

>>213176995
You wish lmao

>>213177521
>>213177641
why can't frogs building anything good their dogshit cars are literally a joke in poland

>>213177613
you japanweebs always live in fear of Chinese taking over. Yu even have news stories about it constantly. seethe more.

Why use anti-CPC youtube channel funded bu falun gong cult, idiot? All fake and exaggerated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz0gmVRL-ok

>>213177669
Kek. I wonder what would these guys on the webm said, if they had to see our Lada and UAZ cars.

>>213177840
go back to ur shithole chang

>>213177702
>>213177641
>>213177880
are you okay?

>>213177840
The source is "CCP Official". You must have zero reading comprehension or legit dumb.

btw here's another interesting news

BYD’s Supply Chain Financing Masks Ballooning Debt, GMT Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-19/byd-s-supply-chain-financing-masks-ballooning-debt-gmt-says

>Bloomberg reveals BYD’s actual net debt is 323 billion yuan, much higher than previously reported, due to heavy reliance on supply chain financing. GMT Research, known for analyzing China Evergrande’s debt, calls this an ‘invisible bomb,’ warning it could threaten BYD’s financial stability.

>>213177840
>anti-CPC youtube channel funded bu falun gong cult
Lmao
You Chinks really are just as bad as the Indians

>>213177916
Now you use US sponsored propaganda outlet like bloomberg who doesn't have any real reporters in China. They only say what their imperial masters tell them to say. The US is in fear of China just like Japan.

Chinas economy grows fast than both US and Japan. That is real facts. You will be crushed with no mercy. Your small idiot controlled island will turn red soon.

>>213176687 (OP)
They got drunk on success, became conservative, and settled on comfort,

They couldn't keep up with the changes of the digital age,

They are inflexible and closed, so if they fail, they look for external enemies,

>>213178119
ching chong pin pong after your shithole collapses from debt and 1 child policy takashi will penetrate your sister like japanese imperial army entered manchuria

>>213178119
>Chinas economy grows fast than both US and Japan. That is real facts.
You still live in the opium pipe-dreaming era? Wake up already, it's 2025. A random Apple supplier's supplier makes more money than China's supposed big tech now.

Earnings 2024
- Apple (US): $125.67 billion
- Xiaomi (CN): $3.38 billion

>>213178424
Why everything China touches ends up unprofitable shit? Someone should do serious research on this.

>>213178424
US only has two phone company. China has dozen! Most of the world is all Chinese phones you idiot japanweeb.

Why can Japan not make popular phone? Answer me that.

>>213178424
chink economy still hasn't passed 19 billion usd since 2019

LOL

>>213178424
also apple profit is from more than phone, idiot.

Answer me, why Japanese no longer making popular phones? Idiot!

>>213178522
jeets have 8 phone companies lol 3rd world metric

>>213178589
All of them Chinese made idiotweeb!

>>213178522
>>213178575
Japan matured into a B2B export machine, while China is still caught in the shallow B2C economy and assembly-level exports. China can flood the world with cheap stuff, but the real battlefield is in B2B, where Japan dominates global supply chains.

Even in recent times, Japanese makers supply both active/passive components to iPhone 17, etc. Japanese firms have shifted focus from cheap electronics to industrial-use and professional-use markets, where the real money is. It’s also where long-term national power is built.

>>213178620
chink cope btw china stock market is below india stock market
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>213178654
b2b? That is only half of a full economy. You see, Japanese cannot compete with China so their economy is only half! LOL!

China has worlds largest domestic and international supply chain and manufacturing. We are a full economy, Japan is only half! LOL!

>>213178654
>matured
More like shrink to half. lol!

>>213178803
>>213178928
B2B is mostly invisible to the consumer, but is huge in Japan's economic structure.

Even with massive state subsidies, China has yet to replicate the deep technical ecosystems Japan spent decades building.

See

China’s Machine Tools 50 Years Behind Japan; A 1.4 Billion Nation Bested by 200-Person Japanese Shops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u8-OoFboNE

>>213178970
More falun gong cult propaganda. China die in two weeks! LOL!

Is that how Japanese people cope? Do you watch falun gong videos to make you forget China took your customers? Thats why Japan has to come to China and beg Chinese to help them make electric cars and sell them to Chinese customers because Japan doesn't have Chinese factories advancement. LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYxxfpOeaX4

>>213179211
That car selling extremely well

>Toyota's bZ3x has surpassed Volkswagen in sales, becoming the best selling non-China EV

>>213179326
We made that car for you, japanweeb! LOL!
Japan mighty Toyota come to China master and beg for life saving measure. China being gracious and kind offers to teach Toyota how to build a real EV in order to save Japan.

Say thank you to your Chinese superiors, you small japanweebs! LOL!

China saved Toyota! Teaches them how to make modern EV! Japan will never recover!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjt8IlvPGAQ

>>213177905
it’s probably that jap schizo on another vpn, he’s always seething for some reason

>>213179532
t. retard not knowing JV is pretty common in auto industry

Also funfact, your BYD literally started as a Japanese knock-off brand. kek

(2024) article: BYD's CEO Wang Chuanfu admited they started as "Toyota Corolla knock-off".
https://www.recordchina.co.jp/b943152-s25-c20-d0193.html

>>213176995
Surprizingly, that's not true.
Japan trades more now than it was during its peak years.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/jpn/japan/trade-gdp-ratio
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/jpn/japan/exports

I genuenly don't know what happens here.

Btw Toyota is still No.4 car brand in China, barely losing the market share, despite being continuously dragged down to BYD's price war. US cars and Korean cars all gone from the China market.

>>213179753
Silly japanweeb, this only shows how much you have fallen. You are now old and weak, a fading legend. The land of rising sun is entering its sunset.

Goodbye Japan. Your old bones will be the foundation of the new Chinese dynasty on the islands.

China is the new king. LOL!

>>213179852
>barely losing marketshare
>dropped by 6% in a year
psh ok hiro

>>213176687 (OP)
because we built too many factories in Korea and China.
The United States is the same, other countries are the same.
No matter how good the performance is, no one can beat China anymore because of the low price.

I wish to be promoted to general manager

>>213177076
In about 50 years, a power generation system will be developed to replace nuclear power generation, and the performance of batteries will be greatly improved accordingly.

MAYBE ・・・

>>213179915
>>213179966
Wanna hear the latest news in auto? US automakers (GM and Ford) complaining about Toyota being too strong even with 15% tariff. kek

aside from nintendo there has never been a japanese company that could make good software

>>213180042
Real news, US more scared of China they ban all Chinese cars. LOL!
Even the US knows Japan is dying so no threat long term. But they know China is going to win the world. LOL!

>>213180094
>Sonic is the best game character!

>>213180094
Japanese makers are currently reinforcing Edge AI, because US big tech is dominating Cloud AI with a gazillion investment (e.g., Stargate project), leaving little room for other countries to do anything in this field.

Edge AI is hardware-based. It processes data locally, so it can localize intelligence. This creates a barrier to full Cloud control. Manufacturers can still use the Cloud, but on their own terms.

>>213180094
>aside from nintendo there has never been a japanese company that could make good software
>aside from nintendo
this is bait

>>213180123
US now tolerates Japan’s Weak Yen, because China is the new trade target. Japan is seen as a key ally within their economic bloc. This makes Japan a more attractive supply chain hub, reducing China exposure.

>>213180252
why? nintendo makes great software

>>213176687 (OP)
literally your fault retard
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord

>>213180123
Trump defended JEEP.

>>213180277
No, you are still a US vassal and you still have cuck mindset to your yankee masters. This is why you foolishly give half a trillion USD + 90% profit to America and get 15% tariffs when you had less than 5%.

LOL! So stupid this Japanese leadership is. You will soon become our vassal and we will strip you of your yankee shame. LOL!

>>213180454
>China betta! Because muh America big boss!
I don't get it. What is his logic?

>>213180542
That kind of mental gymnastic happens when you born as a ricel in Chinatown, California.

>>213176687 (OP)
>Why do they suck at hardware AND software now?
They don’t. Japan still has the best tech, they just export a lot of it. Meanwhile China, S Korea and Taiwan focus more on the international market

>>213180708
*they just don’t export a lot of it

>>213180542
>>213180580
incel? We are over 1.4 billion people. We have more sex than you sexless loveless incels. LOL!

Idiot japanweebs!

>>213180973
ping ping ping ding ding ding ling ling ling bing bing bing ting ting ting

Mitsubishi is the only company that can realistically compete with Airbus and Boeing.

>>213180542
>Picrel: Japanese when America is looking for a lapdog
LOL!

>>213181485
ROFL!!!!!

>>213177189
>USA
>developed world.
Kek

>>213182308
more developed than your bankrupt country

>>213180323
literally contradicted by the article you posted retard

>>213176687 (OP)
OP is a NEET that never worked in construction because Komatsu is everywhere. Even the famous American killdozer was a Komatsu D355A bulldozer

Remember: catching up is easier than staying afloat.

Let’s see how Korea and China handle their middling period with declining birth rates, stagnant wages and static innovations.

Korea is right now in Japan’s 90s.
China is right now in Japan’s 80s.


The challenging decline just has started for you guys.

>>213183879
Korea is already well into downfall. Samsung useless chips were rejected by Google, and all investors are abandoning this shit company for TSMC.

>>213176687 (OP)
Their neighbors did it cheaper, and their corporate culture is too inflexible to adapt so the government passed protectionist policies that insulated them from needing to adapt.

>>213176687 (OP)
Other than cars*, they mostly make stuff for their own domestic consumption. You must understand the Japanese mindset. They DON'T want to sell to dirty foreigners. They just want to be left alone. The post-War boom was an anomaly, something they did to cover the shame of defeat. Once they deemed the shame was erased, they simply stopped trying.

*Japs mostly license their cars to be built outside Japan. E.g., our Perodua manufactures a fuck ton of Daihatsu clones.

>>213183627
If only we acted like it.

>>213184179
shut up weeb

>>213177031
most sane and grounded frenchman

>>213184179
Most of the cars manufactured by Daihatsu Japan are for Japan.
Companies just make cars that fit the country.
If they manufacture and sell cars that don't fit overseas like they used to, they will lose to cheap Korean and Chinese cars.

>Daihatsu Japan
Most cars are 0.6 L.

>>213177840
why? china is much more compatible with japan than any westren country

In America, is it considered cucked to drive a Japanese vehicle?

>>213184557
It's ironic, but maybe it is.
>Chinese who work diligently if they pay a lot of money
>Western countries that pay a lot of money but only think about vacations

>>213184603
No a shitload of ppl do and ppl praise them a lot. Only ppl who were living in the 70s/80s who still were mad about you guys cared about any of that shit

>>213184603
literally everyone drives japanese aside from morons that are fine driving unreliable shitboxes

>>213184683
I can imagine old people in wheelchairs watching a Zoomer drive by in a Nip hybrid going, "Sweet Jesus, it's Wake Island all over again"