Thread 213410665

Trump is reviving traditional architecture in my country, thoughts?

>>213410665 (OP)
>traditional
>in my country
Some random village in Germany is three times older than your country.

>>213410703
German traditional architecture is mudhuts though

>>213410703
das ist mir egal du hurensohn

>>213410665 (OP)
>traditional

>>213410665 (OP)
I find that very nice, thoughts?

>>213410703
the US has bombed germany

>>213410665 (OP)
Its not. Its a pretentious idea of how traditional stuff has to look.

>>213410869
So did Sweden, France, Russia, etc etc. And?

>>213410665 (OP)
Nice. Here it would be some concrete abomination

>>213410826
Hellscape
>>213410873
Europe is literally the same with those cookie cutter neoclassic slop-buildings plastered in cheap plastic paint tbf

let him destroy the country, americans don't deserve nice things

>>213410703
Old =/= Traditional
Neo classicism is traditional in America

>>213410989
>Neo classicism is traditional
>neo
>traditional

WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/promoting-beautiful-federal-civic-architecture/
Trump single handedly bodied the entire architectural institution of this country.

>>213410665 (OP)
Didn't he already pass this bill in his last term?

>>213411031
It was called neoclassicism back then.
Classicism is itself just Roman’s copying what Greeks did and older than that.

>>213411134
ye, biden nulled it, he reinstated it this term

>>213410665 (OP)
>>213410826
>Art Pedo

>>213410665 (OP)
i don't like neoclassical. it's like the goyslop of traditional architecture, specially the american version of it which always looks copy pasted

>>213411176
Yeah, no shit. It cannot be traditional by definition because it’s retards copying others’ traditions.
>inb4 muh Romans copied muh Greeks
that isn’t traditionalism either. You can read chuds like Cato the Elder complaining about the Hellenization of Rome and how it’s gay globohomo as opposed to trad Rome.

just build it with stick framing, which will make anything american style.

>>213411185
Was anything actually built?

>>213410665 (OP)
i am not a big fan of "classical" usa architecture, i am not even sure there is a definition of it.

but i will support it over globohomo demoralization brutalism or the faceless glass concrete subes any day. Ancient rome pillars for everybody!

>>213411295
i don't think so, the only notable design is the new penn station, but its only a rendering.

>>213411412
most "traditional" architecture looks off, we should revive beaux-arts education desu

>>213411219
kek

>>213411249
We Americans are the direct inheritors of Greek, Roman, and English civilization.

>>213410665 (OP)
>>213410826
This nigga wants to be the sun king so bad

>>213411507
You are mutts so no tradition can exist in America by definition. You are “inheritors” aka globohomo copycats.

>>213411635
tradition might be lost in germany, but not here

>>213411219
10/10

>>213411720
You cannot lose something you never had in the first place.

>>213411412
Pic related is the Salt Lake District Courthouse, circled in red is the Federal Courthouse which they built to withstand an Oklahoma City bombing scenario.

>>213411802
You’re a turk, no German would be so insecure and shit talkative about Romanesque stuff.

>>213410665 (OP)
vghh we need some real traditional

>>213411944
>runs out of arguments
>proceeds with the classic turkroach deflection
Absolutely nothing traditional about romanesque architecture.

>>213411979
we should return to Iroquois long houses

>>213411412
bitch...

ok but when will we get someone to finish all of our buildings by painting over that barren marble?

>>213412048
My argument is Occam’s razor that you’re just a brown diasporoid with an axe to grind. Maybe you are just a German that hates western civilization out of self hatred but considering your language it seems you’re projecting brown rootless muttness because that is precisely how you feel, mehmet. Prove me wrong and show me some digital ID, faggot.

>>213411944
Are there even romanesque buildings in the USA?

>>213412287
yes, some college campuses like usc and ucla

>>213412247
Nigger, it’s called ROMANesque. You ain’t Roman. Nobody today is Roman. It’s not traditional if it’s copying other people’s culture, you stupid fuck. Traditional architecture is the architecture of your people. But you would never understand what that means because there are no American people. Ching Chong, Deshawn Mendez, and Hunter Kowalski are all Americans despite having no common roots.

>>213410703
You were shoveling pig shit back then and you’re still shoveling pig shit today

>>213412334
I'm surprised that there are actually quite a lot of buildings with a romanesque revival style in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanesque_Revival_architecture#United_States

>>213412061
i will admit the usa has pompous very easy to recognize style. but they can return to real SOUL

>that German flag seething ITT
Neidgesellschaft

>>213412363
It's called romanesque mainly due to the prominent usage of the round arch, which was alo a feature of ancient roman architectue. But romanesque is firmly medieval.

>>213412363
Cope.
Only free white (north western european) men of good character are American.
Injuns and negros are local fauna and livestock.

>>213412460
there's even french second empire style basically mimicking haussemann, most of them were built during the gilded age until the war.

>>213412598
>Amendment XIV (1868)
>Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

>>213411031
Neoclassicism is from the 18th century. It was very popular during the founding of America

>>213412598
>swarthy italian hands typed this
Only anglos are whites

>>213412720
Good job wrecking me Saul Goodman now try to explain your broken English and Turkish education what any of that means. No AI allowed.

>>213412792
Can you not read? My condolences.

>>213411283
White trash with cash. He isn't planning on leaving.

>>213412756
What part of North Western Europe are Italians from, Indog? I actually understand and agree with Franklin when he said that. Related is literally me: https://youtu.be/muou_fzxZ5Y?si=kbwfT-LrhTXQC24Z

>>213412363
Gothic architecture is an evolution of Romanesque architecture, which was inspired by Roman architecture. So I suppose everything is Roman

>>213412891
What'd he say

>>213410665 (OP)
Art nouveau mogs all other architecture

>>213412923
>So I suppose everything is Roman
Yes. Everything post 476 is a gay copy of Rome.

>>213410665 (OP)
vgh, We truly are the heirs to Rome
>>213410703
Too bad you can't say the same of your cities

>>213412850
Kek mehmet won’t even attempt it. Like you could at least say “citizenship = nation” but you won’t.

>>213410665 (OP)
super based, even if it costs the american taxpayer 3x more it's still based af

>>213412998
Your country practices civic nationalism, yes. I suppose your American education didn’t cover that.

>>213412621
For me it's art deco. I think it is a very optimistic style.

Ill forever respect Trump after his assassination attempt and how he reacted to being shot at, getting up immediately and raising his fist not seeking shelter fearing death like a total loser, hes a proper man.

>>213410665 (OP)
>traditional architecture
What is traditional about government pseudoneoclassical

>>213413100
if architecture represent the zeitgeist of the era, what would post-modernism represent for current age?

>>213413100
Art deco was the last vestage of muttmerican kino
The second we got a whiff of bauhaus it was over

I think any who uses vpns should be executed. Look at this fucking thread.

>>213413029
Anyone can gain citizenship of any nation but no one actually thinks that makes them ‘part of the family’ so I don’t know what your point is.

>>213413348
Your constitution literally states that all US citizens are equal before law. You, Joaquin, and Daiquan are all equally American. Go write a strongly-worded letter to Congress if you disagree.

>>213413348
Cause you are a fucking idiot.

>>213413255
Square, Practical, Good

>>213413100
If we're talking about pre-war optimism, nothing beats Art Nouveau. It's a style that screams "things are great and even greater things are on their way."

>>213413386
He's esl and something's wrong with him. Franklin wrote a very sarcastic joke response about who was white. People with social disorders either don't pick it up or don't think other people instant recognize sarcasm.
There is something actually wrong with him

>>213413255
The era of expendability

>>213413386
>are equal before law
Wow what a cutting blow
Are you going to suggest a nation in which that isn’t the case?
Even in Israel you can get there and be an Israeli under the law and that’s a place with blood quantum right of return.
>>213413458
You will never actually be white, sorry bro. Yeah Franklin was basically shitposting but he was doing so out of a kernel of truth which is that continental Europeans were often swarthy.

>>213413458
Instantly recognize sarcasm*
Anyways you'll see trolls with social disorders usual manic depressives with low iqs trying to troll with franklins sarcastic letter saying well Franklin said this.

They don't realize everyone else instantly realizes he was being sarcastic.

>>213413521
See. Caught you
"Anyways you'll see trolls with social disorders usual manic depressives with low iqs trying to troll with franklins sarcastic letter saying well Franklin said this."

You are a midwit who is probably manic depressives. Right? You are manic depressives? Duh

>>213413521
>Are you going to suggest a nation in which that isn’t the case?
the Netherlands, the UK, Saudi Arabia, basically any monarchy

>>213413453
what could have been

>>213413573
Manic depressive*
So yeah it's very common on pol. They post shit they know is shit to troll unaware everyone not a midwit realizes it. Go look.

>>213413100
Lee Lawrie and others really had an interesting use of archaic art and color and infused it into the industrial world in such a evocative way

>>213410826
Gauche

>>213411219
LEL

>>213413573
>>213413621
>See. Caught you
>"Anyways you'll see trolls with social disorders usual manic depressives with low iqs trying to troll with franklins sarcastic letter saying well Franklin said this."
>You are a midwit who is probably manic depressives. Right? You are manic depressives? Duh
> Manic depressive*
>So yeah it's very common on pol. They post shit they know is shit to troll unaware everyone not a midwit realizes it. Go look.
Calm down and put the fries in the bag little bro. You learn big boy pop sci words like “schizo”,”manic depressive”, and “midwit” and have to project them onto anyone that rightly makes you feel less than.

>>213413100
I loved Frank Lloyd Wright usonian homes...
Mutts, you had genius among you and still want this "wedding cake" architecture back?

>>213415509
>and still want this "wedding cake" architecture back?
Eh, historicism is infinitely better than post-modern monstrosities and we should see more of it. That being said, American architecture peaked with early modernism.

>>213415509
USA is the size of 2 europes and you can't just use one design for all the states and expect it to work
usonian homes would work for north carolina and similiar foresty states but would look out of place literally everywhere else, arid hills of california, boreal forests of alaska, flat fields of ohio

>>213416126
I never said he was the only one.

>>213415706
I think the prairie deco created a lot of interesting art but if we ar critical of a lot of these buildings they where ultimately big boxes that afforded to hire amazing sculptors to decorate them. since nothing of these buildings function or cultural attitude necessitated the decoration the where ultimately lost as the subjects of these details went over the heads of their commissioners and the general observer, and if the subject matters meaning is lost and just handwaved as 'high art and culture' then it is no wonder that once new subject matter went in vogue and it truly contained even looser and more abstract or disjointed meaning then commissioners and observers had no trouble waving their hands again and bowing to the new artists. while a Nebraska clerk in 1900 may have commissioned works with great mythological weight and cultural callback he has none of the education of the sculptors who understand what the symbols and images are from, when 45 years later that same clerk meets a new sculpture from the Bauhaus that is equally opaque to him the reaction and implementation becomes the same for him.

>>213415509
Modern FLH houses look like libraries, without exception.

>>213415509
FLH was a dreamer who had his ass saved multiple times by structural engineers. His dreams were sometimes too big for compliance with the laws of physics.

>>213416319
>>213416429
Do we both call him Frank Lloyd Hwite?

>>213416203
you scoffed at these "wedding cake" buildings but I find them pretty in a way, ultimately architecture should be about using readilly available local materials, using centuries old tried and true building elements to fight the local climate and the style will born itself like mud huts > old adobe architecture > california adobe

the worst crime is just shitting up the place with no coherency and consistency in design

>>213416581
This just looks unfinished.

>>213416620
yes its an eyesore a literal nigger museum, im pretty sure the architect is a master of yapchitecture and would explain why a shit design is actually good and full of symbolism

>>213416724
You can sell anything if you talk it up enough. I used to sell literal industrial waste to the local college art museum.
This... looks like they're putting some building supported scaffolding up to add horizontal extensions.

imperial hotel tokyo by wright was pure kino, sadly it is gone.

>>213413579
Yeah the UK home to race based ethno nationalism.

>>213415509
Vernacular may be fine for common buildings, but when it comes to displays of grandeur, The US will always look abroad.

>>213411243
It’s ok. It’s not favorite either desu. Very American indeed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTO5OAXit8

>>213413255
minimalistic. it's perfectly soulless for our times.

>>213416429
also his entire family war brutally murdered and he was an asshole to other European architects quite the character

>>213411944
he is right. you americans are shit and fake

There's nothing traditional about neo-romance

>>213410703
>ve don't do zat in germany ja!

why are architects so anal about anything that's not modern glass cubes?

>>213417687
the world of academic architecture has almost no relation to the grind of the construction industry.
when you have an entire intelligencia dedicated to wasting 5 years of college kids time and money with useless bullshit you create a race of only the most deprived lairs and syncopates who can live with themselves to perpetuate such a retarded system. as suc hthe yfixate on onyl the most abhorrent things, the yare obsessed with nazi architecture despite being left leaning, they refuse to refer to themselves as humans, they drink water at bars, they only wear black, they can sit down for 10 hour sessions of reviewing random lines on a wall and their only hope in life is to tiher go back to the construction industry and behave like a normal human or flounce around dreary wine parties in new york city like an awkward medicated vampire hoping there's an equally perverse university dean vampire whose neck they can bite.

>>213418015
did you have a stroke writing this?

>>213416923
actual retard

>>213410665 (OP)
Trump barely remember who he is, his narcissistic ego barely keeps his mind together. Stop giving grandpas power shaking my head

>>213418256
ive been having a constant linguistic stroke for the last 6 years

>>213410665 (OP)
good thoughts

>>213417436
Beaner detected opinion rejected
>>213418296
Anyone of any ethnic background can become a citizen of Saudi Arabia and be considered a “Saudi Arabian” so what are you talking about towel head. Like at least bring up blood quantum reservation states if you want to bolster some sort of argument.

>>213410826
>Even arabs think this is too gaudy

>Arguing over prefixes how bricks and cement are to be molded.


Never change 4chan...

>>213410665 (OP)
>>213410826

>thoughts?

I mean... it's minimalist corbusieresque, with the acceptable arteque chimed in so as to not appear boring, neither brutalist, nor industrial.

It's OK, acceptable.
At least you know it's not kitsch. You have that certainty.

>>213411283
looks like shit

>>213419523
How long until Neo-Reichstag becomes a thing?

>traditional
>invented after 17th century

>>213421409
Pre or post rebuild

>>213410665 (OP)
Trump is such pathetic creature. He's behaving like a central asian dictator
Soon you guys will be building statues of Trump

>>213411031
What happened to revirewbrah?

>>213411412
>but i will support it over globohomo demoralization brutalism
Brutalism is sovietpilled

>>213412998
>Like you could at least say “citizenship = nation
In your country yes, otherwise Trump wouldn't be american.

Even his ancestors are not from northwest europe

>>213423010
Pre ideally, but either.

>>213410665 (OP)
>Traditional
>Modern material, advanced infrastructure, advanced warfare

>>213411896
>Oklahoma City bombing scenario
Do foreign armies even know where Oklahoma is?

>>213424866
All traditions that the U S and A adopted fiercely until the trees started screaming Vietnamese and spooked them back to the 1800's.

>>213411219
ggwp

>>213425022
If they did, I'm sure they wouldn't use fertilizer and diesel to level it.

>>213410826
Jupiterian, it's over Macronbros

>>213423203
Pic related dumb dumb.
>>213425022
Why might a foreign army want to blow up a federal courthouse in Utah?

>>213410665 (OP)
No matter how much old architecture they bring back, Amerishits will never have a pearl like this!

>>213410703
England bombed most of your gay little
towns to pieces during WW2 dont lie kraut

Trump is a pedo rapist and a good goy just like the rest of them.

>>213412363
we are all ROMAN (culturally) in our countries. vgh

>>213412885
The biggest tell is he fired all the secret service agents who refused to sign a loyalty oath to him.

>>213428881
yeah its fucking over. neo russia here we come

>>213413412
postmodernism is not quadratisch praktisch gut, you're thinking of modernism
>>213417342
it is not minimalist either

>>213410665 (OP)
It's more beautiful than the Trump tower made of glasses.

>>213412501
MAKE AMERICA BRITISH AGAIN

>>213410665 (OP)
kino
Trump is saving America

>>213410826
As if this is any worse than what you fucks do. The house of Saud literally built a giant, gaudy hotel that towers over the holiest site in your religion

Give back building ornementation

>>213411283
Genuinely who thought this was a good idea? Gardens are about the most sovlfvl type of architecture and they replace it with some concrete block. It now looks like an outdoors area of a restaurant.

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>>213431426
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>>213431359
be careful, some idf bot will come and screech how its fake and kitsch

Is this the new Israeli Embassy?

>>213434296
This doesn't deliver a return for the investors. Demolish it and make a concrete cube.

>>213434296
This building gives me terrible ideas.
It might be a good thing that I'll never have the money for philanthropy and architecture. I'd mash Art Deco and Art Nouveau together in ways that made people think the elves and dwarves weren't just getting together, but fucking and raising misshapen children.

>>213411249
>Hellenization of Rome
he complained about something that had already happened centuries before and during his time? what a retard

Is this traditional?

>>213436019
I want a fusion between Art Nouveau and Gothic.

>>213436575
Why not all three? Swoopy, blocky, and pointy!

>>213410665 (OP)
Not without a catch. Brutalist architecture is a measure to domesticate and enslave people, by the guys who run the world, who we aren’t allowed to talk about.

>>213413647
soulless vs soul

>>213436575
something like this?

>>213416270
Good post

>>213431359
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>>213431406
The moment we stopped doing this stuff is the moment we lost all hope as a continent. Pretty sad.