Thread 213438184

Is it true?

True, negroids and mongoloids are far too distant. Stick to closely clustering groups like MENA and South Asians

>>213438184 (OP)
>>213438274
Put a bullet in your head

>>213438184 (OP)
kill whitey
outbreed whitey

>>213438184 (OP)
and why is that bad exactly
>>213438293
this

Most genetic variation is between individuals not populations so you would still be genetically closer to your offspring

>>213438293
Nigga, mongoloids show the highest variance on PC1/modest variance in PC2. And negroids distance in PC1/PC2. They're far too distant.

>>213438274
>and South Asians

>>213438431
you are pakki trying to make indians look bad

>>213438184 (OP)
Don't practice miscegenation plox, ok?

>>213438335
>and why is that bad exactly
Loss of identity. Loss of blood relation with a community. Which translates in less cohesive societies. Which become more easily goberned poulations since instead of having a blood related group interest (strong defense against tyranic abuse) you become only an individual (easily manipulated and controlled). Thanks for attending my Ted Talk

>>213438184 (OP)
Being related means, for close relations, having been raised into a household, sharing its history, its high and lows, having been exposed to your family own twist on your country's culture, and the local one. You gain from it, as a rule, many little idiosyncrasies that only become apparent when interacting with outsiders. It also means, generally, that you have strong feelings toward your parents, good and bad, as a result of that history. On top of that, there's just myriad of push and pull moments with a family that charges your relation with its member emotionally in a way that could never be the case with strangers.

Conflating being "related" with genetic makeup is the most soulless and reductive nazi dipshittery I've ever had the displeasure to witness.

So no, if you reproduced with a random asian or african, you wouldn't be closer to the random white person in the street than your own son or daughter, unless you were never in their lives and completely failed to raise them. I'd argue that if I fucked a bear lady, I'd be closer to my bear cubs than I would be to the next french cunt.

tl;dr: being related has nothing to do with keeping it in the race, /pol/ is retarded as ever, try thinking critically for once.

>>213438184 (OP)
I'd rather racemix with someone who loves me than 'uphold the honor' of you whiny, pathetic shitheads.

>>213438184 (OP)
people don’t realize that reproduction is not a 50/50 ratio of your genetics and hers. it is almost always a dominant genome presence, more like 70/30 or higher. this is why some hapas look white while others can look asian. same with mixed africans and anyone else

>>213438724
You're Jewish

>>213438796
This is how my wife thinks aswell, which is why after 15 long years of marriage I am still a virgin. Meanwhile she has a vibrant sex life with her long term boyfriend and various side pieces

>>213438984
and you're a "m-muh feelings" negative IQ troglodyte

>>213438724
>>213439076
I guess the frenchies actually WANT to get blacked? Well, enjoy the genetic enrichment

>>213439346
I actually have a pretty strong in group preference, just stating the facts.

>>213438184 (OP)
That doesn't really make sense for an individual because your child is 50% identical to you which surely is more than some random other white person.

>>213439076
You literally wrote >>213438724
>It also means, generally, that you have strong feelings toward your parents
>strong feelings

You said that science of genetics is nazism and that
>strong feelings
Is the only things that matters, and you accuse >>213439346
of going
>muh feelings

Do you even remember your own posts before replying?

>>213439511
Reminder that Gayrapy is a pseudoscientist and made his wife disappear

Jesus god chuds are retarded

>>213439698
>said Pekka, wahing off the somali semen from his lips

>>213439785
Masturbate before you post.

>>213439698
trvth nvke

>>213438184 (OP)
It's retarded chud ideology.

They are as ignorant of genetics as they're of sex

>>213439560
>You said that science of genetics is nazism and that
Nope. He said that the reductionism that chuds do in regards to genetics is nazism

>>213438274
don't mind if I do!

do people feel close to randos on the street if they are your ethnicity, like they are your people.

>>213439346
>>213439785
>chudcel trying not to think about interracial sex and black penises challenge impossible

>>213438274
You wish whites breed with you raghead

>>213438652
>loss of identity
Says who? Do you have the same identity as your ancestors 1000, 2000, 3000 years ago?
>Loss of blood relation with a community.
Can you detect this blood relation or is it all in your head?
>Which translates in less cohesive societies.
There are families with bitter blood feuds with each other who descend from the same recent ancestors, genetic closeness isn't necessary for a sense of community.

>>213438184 (OP)
so you're saying i HAVE to procreate with a white woman? the thought makes me shudder

>>213438184 (OP)
This is some high school dropout nonsense.

>>213440079
Sex

>>213438274
>SAAAAAR DO THE NEEDFUL AND BREED WITH INDIANS SAAAR

>>213438184 (OP)
what absolute nonsense

>>213438652
>Loss of identity. Loss of blood relation with a community.
my identity or my community don't have anything to do with me being white or black or whomever, you need to be better than those arbitrary things

>>213439076
You literally wrote that relatedness boils down to "feelings" lmfao.

You will never be related to someone substantially different to you, the emotional background of relatedness is a feeling of interchangeability. Is a "us" over "them"
"Us" cant emerge from something as abstract as a learnt behaviour, it will always respond to self perceived identity which emerges from appearence

You believe some abstract idea supercedes a material reality, which itself posesses a larger factor in to manifest
>>213438274
Indians are abo mutts.
MENA are negro mutts with some exceptions like caucasians
>>213439511
Nigga do you know what meiosis is? DNA recombines. Otherwise all siblings would be identical

>>213438184 (OP)
The problem with this kind of logic is that the endpoint becomes you fucking your sister

>>213438274
South Asians ain't close to whites, SAAAR. MENA's closer, but still far

>>213438274
GOOD MORNING SIIIIIR

>>213443888
>You will never be related to someone substantially different to you
All 8 billion Human beings alive today are either your 50th degree cousins or closer.
>material reality
Two strangers can look more similar to each other than two brothers sharing both their biological parents. All you have to judge "closeness" is phenotype.

>>213439346
They are paid shills
The EU funds unironic bots to "fight russian disinformation" online and promote mass migration and mixing between white women and black males, they also try to groom white kids into becoming trannies


This is their plan to prevent "another rise of fascism"
Read "hooton plan"

>>213438184 (OP)
I guess a simple visual test would dispel this. Do mixed race children resemble their parents more than random people on the street resemble the parents? The answer is pretty clear to me

>>213444085
>They disagree with me?
>NOOOOOOO
>It can't be! They must be globohomo shills paid to bring forth the NWO!
YOU. MEDS. NOW.

it is and none of the bioleninist apes understand why because their understanding of genetics is stuck to late 90s for convenience of the masters

if XXXXXXXXXX and YYYYYYYYYY mix together to give you something like roughly XXXXXYYYYY or XYXYXYXYXY or any combination of this kind with about 50/50 from each, someone that is already much closer to you, due to populations effectively being inbred to an nth cousin degree especially if the Y person is far removed geographically and temporally, might end up overall closer to you if you count total differentiation by DNA locus, i.e lots of the X of a random person from your ethnic group are effectively already the same as yours and you differ only in a fraction of the known human variation compared to someone from another continent
except instead of 10 letters you have millions and millions of known SNPs and ignoring pygmies and bushmen some 100000 years of genetic drift, bottlenecks, and isolation

>>213444166
Explain why we are striving towards our children being as genetically identical to us as possible, please

>>213438184 (OP)
I don't think it is that simple. I'm mixed and I absolutely look like my father. Got my mother's hair.

>>213444256
Yes, there's something off. It might be technically correct, but it likely does not matter in a practical sense. I know mixed race people and they clearly resemble their parents, which does not make logical sense if they are "more distantly related to their parents than randoms on the street"

>>213444141
>>They disagree with me?
Yes why would you disagree with me when my points are objectively right? Are you like a bootlicker for nons or something? (Yes, therefore you are a shill)
>All 8 billion Human beings alive today are either your 50th degree cousins or closer.
Not really, the last MRCA common ancestor of East asians and West eurasians (middle easterners and Europeans) is somewhere placed arround 40.000 BCE, between east africans and eurasians arround 60.000 BCE, west qfricans 88.000 BCE, hominids also have a tendency towards high competition because we are a capable genre of animals.
We have different strategies enabled by different social structures that select for different biological characters and temperaments.
Your society tempers you.
>Two strangers can look more similar to each other than two brothers sharing both their biological parents
And by extent you will be treated like that. If someone that looks like you gains a reputation of being effeminate, people will associate your appearence with effeminacy and this will have consequences on you, if someone that looks like you is associated with uglyness, this will have consequences on you, etc
Therefore people is constantly mateguarding, and undermining those that appear distinct

We operate through learned behaviours.

>>213444166
>their understanding of genetics is stuck to late 90s for convenience of the masters
Ironic of you to say that.

Chromosomes exchange genetic material during meiosis, meaning that in your example, the children wouldn't have XXXXXYYYYY, or XYXYXYXYXY, instead they both would have X-ish Ys and Y-ish Xs.

In summary, the chromosomes you got from your paternal grandparents will exchange genes with the chromosomes you got from your maternal grandparents, even though your paternal grandparents didn't reproduce with your maternal grandparents.

>>213444413
of course the dumb quasimodo doesn't get the elementary example, which was obviously haploid for simplicity, the concept remains the same

>>213444246
we? some don't care and breed in a manner that increases entropy and effectively produces the most undifferentiated "human" on the long term, others I guess do like the idea of breeding in such a way as to make sure traits that depend on a complex genetic configuration aren't broken by random pairing

>>213444376
>A study by mathematicians Joseph T. Chang, Douglas Rohde and Steve Olson used a theoretical model to calculate that the MRCA may have lived remarkably recently, possibly as recently as 2,000 years ago. It concludes that the MRCA of all living humans probably lived in East Asia, which would have given them key access to extremely isolated populations in Australia and the Americas.
>If someone that looks like you gains a reputation of being effeminate, people will associate your appearence with effeminacy and this will have consequences on you,
Only if they're retards

Why exactly am I supposed to care about this?
>organ donations
Unlikely to be an issue
>effects on soyciety
Not my problem

>>213444488
Humans aren't separated by "100,000 years of genetic drift".
"A study by mathematicians Joseph T. Chang, Douglas Rohde and Steve Olson used a theoretical model to calculate that the MRCA may have lived remarkably recently, possibly as recently as 2,000 years ago. It concludes that the MRCA of all living humans probably lived in East Asia, which would have given them key access to extremely isolated populations in Australia and the Americas."

>>213444639
to save race purity or algo aka I got nothing better to do to pass my time on this Earth

>>213444639
MVH WHITE RACE

random nobodies tagging elon musk to beg for attention is the saddest most pathetic shit

>>213444649
the MRCA is completely irrelevant, as a single individual more than 500 years ago pretty much contributes nothing whatsoever to your current genome, which is the byproduct of the bulk of your ancestors
when we are talking about divergence times, we're talking about population divergence i.e when the population ancestral to Eurasians branched off from the paleo east African one

>>213444926
Can you even say that those populations split if there was continuous gene transfer between them? And I'm not talking about the MRCA, there are tons of even more recent ancestors who are common to maybe only 90% or 80% of the populations.

>>213444649
>>213444588
Mmm no nigga
Archeogenetics is a quite developed field these days
That shit is old and debunked

>Population genomic research has studied the origin and formation of modern East Asians. The ancestors of East Asians (Ancient East Eurasians) split from Ancient West Eurasians possibly as early as 80,000 to 50,000 years ago. Possible routes into East Asia include a northern route from Central Asia, beginning north of the Himalayas, and a southern route, beginning south of the Himalayas and moving through South and Southeast Asia.[3][4][1][5] Vallini et al. 2024 noted that the divergence between Ancient East Eurasians and West Eurasians most likely occurred on the Persian Plateau between 57–46kya years ago.[6]

>>213445134
>The ancestors of East Asians (Ancient East Eurasians) split from Ancient West Eurasians possibly as early as 80,000 to 50,000 years ago.
Yet y-DNA haplogroups R1b and E are found in both Africa and Europe.
>the divergence between Ancient East Eurasians and West Eurasians most likely occurred on the Persian Plateau between 57–46kya years ago
Yet haplogroups N, R, I, are found in both Europe and Asia.

>>213445073
Of course retard.
There is a shitton markers like Neanderthal and denisovan dna, f4 outgroup statistics, Ibd segments, fst, etc to check whatever there was or not admixture events between populations.

Africans and eurasians are the easiest to distinguish because Eurasians have a range of neanderthak dna that sows endogamy within, at the same time they are unrelated to africans when compared to outgroups like ancient human samples from early settlement of eurasia (Oase, ust ishim, bacho kiro, zlaty kun)

>>213445290
>Eurasians have a range of neanderthak dna that sows endogamy within, at the same time they are unrelated to africans when compared to outgroups like ancient human samples from early settlement of eurasia
Proof?

>>213445286
Just for you to think about it these haolotypes have the MRCA arround 20-30Kya, often before the last glacial maximum.

There weres two pulses of West eurasian dna likely introgressing in africa arround 12000 to 4000 bce)
One was through thr nile/arabian peninsula region reingressing the E haplotype into africa and likely spreading southwards and r1b was either through an arab colonization arround mali/senegal or green sahara from europe downwards

Even with these admixtures (estimated to compose arround 10% of the west african dna) when you make a whole genome sequencing and estimate the divergence point it will pop up 80KYA, without the iberomaurusian and west eurasian admixtures west africans likely cluster somewhere close to Mbuti pygmies, with a split point arround 120.000 years ago

>>213445330
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08420-x
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03335-3

Read The papers.
Neanderthal introgression and the lenght + ammount of dna segments are used to estimate both admixture event date and percentage

On average, your own child shares 50% of your genetic material, regardless of the partner's ethnicity. In contrast, a random person of your own ethnicity who is not a family member would share a much smaller percentage of genetic material, typically around 12.5% to 25%, depending on the specific genetic similarities within the population.

Therefore, your own child, even with a partner of a different race, is genetically closer to you than a random person of your own ethnicity. Your child, regardless of the partner's ethnicity, is genetically closer to you than any random person from your ethnic group.