Orc comes from the Etruscan Orco, then the latin Orcus. In the italian fables the orco is the ogre (they both share the same ethimology and origin), a giant cannibal humanoid.
The orc/ogre in the germanic sagas was an evil servant of hell/cthonic forces, and that's because Orco was an etruscan cthonic deity. So in germanic lore the orc and the ogre split, the orc retaining the chtonic/supernatural aspect while the ogre the cannibalistic aspect, but they all come from the same central italian deity passed down to the romans and then from the romans to the romanized germanics.
It's very interesting if you think about it
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:22:47 PM
No.213450074
>>213451141
>>213450009 (OP)
Yet another trumptard fake news.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:28:51 PM
No.213450258
>>213450547
>>213451625
>>213450035
Ill tell you the italian fable of little thumb (Pollicino). You will notice similiraties with another famous german fable...
https://youtu.be/8IQbFoZbYew?feature=shared
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:37:52 PM
No.213450547
>>213451514
>>213450258
Interesting, it's very grim like a proper old fable. I think a lot of countries in Europe have this one, though
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:48:09 PM
No.213450858
>>213451141
>>213450790
One of the most disgusting things I've ever seen
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:54:47 PM
No.213451058
>>213451233
>>213450009 (OP)
The idea of the evil servant of dark/underworld forces in the Indo-European tradition is likely even older than that. Look at what the Rigvedic Aryans wrote, the demonic ghoul/orc/troll is likely inspired by the savage browns that they slaughtered in the thousands.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:57:07 PM
No.213451141
>>213450858
Fag
>>213450074
>>213450817
>they dont know
But this is another story...
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 10:59:40 PM
No.213451233
>>213451058
The etruscans were not indoeuropean but preindoeuropean, so if there is a connection between these figures it is probably older than the split that formed the indoeuropean branch
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:08:01 PM
No.213451514
>>213450547
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentamerone
This book became extremely popular, so the origin of certain fables is uncertain, if it came from this or it is part of the common european cultural substrate (which is certainly real and of course predated this fable collection).
Things are getting even more interesting
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:11:00 PM
No.213451625
>>213450258
i want to listen to an italian fable read by a qt italian girl (in italian)
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:15:13 PM
No.213451777
>>213451823
>>213451838
>>213450009 (OP)
Se ti interessa l'argomento leggi "Il re degli ontani" di Michel Tournier.
Fidati che ne vale la pena.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:15:34 PM
No.213451791
>>213450790
Wtf I thought they were Asian noodles
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 11:17:06 PM
No.213451838
>>213451777
>Michel Tournier
Basatissimo. "Venerdì o il limbo del pacifico" è uno dei miei libri preferiti
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