Thread 213493924

“Behold, you have conceived and will bear a son. And you shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard your cry of affliction. 12He will be a wild donkey of a man, and his hand will be against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”
Genesis 16

>>213493924 (OP)
>holiest city in Islam
>looks like Mordor
Yeah they're the bad guys, anybody (muslims) who says no is coping about their arabian pagan religion

>>213493924 (OP)
>>213494011
Latinx

Be real with me.

How did Mohammed convince people to fight for him? Was he really THAT good at haggling like merchant?

>>213494011
the quran itself calls it a dry hellhole it’s part of the lore mecca being like that

>>213494060
Consider how dumb Arabs are today and then consider how much dumber they must have been 1400 years ago.

>>213494011
But the gulfies are borrowing the best from american architecture!

>>213494022
yeah we are the OG Latins, so what? You're an ugly midget jungle monkey who worships an arabian warlord

>>213493924 (OP)
>>213494011
>>>/x/
Go back to your conspiracy theory board

>>213494110
She was right about the Pope

>>213494011
Achisually it tracks with the theological canon that the Arabs are getting shittier in building shit

>>213494060
If you read the Quran it sounds way too smart for a schizo to make all of this up

Add in the christian roman empire shitting the bed, jews being jews, it's easy to turn to a very devoted man going from setbacks to setbacks but keeping his faith

>>213493924 (OP)
>oman
>sunni
Delete your post and close this thread.

>>213494110
Ok Luigi Mario

>/pol/ always criticize Jews
>/int/ always criticize Muslims

>>213494186
What are they?

>>213494011
Holy shit, now that I see this I am convinced (that you are high).

>pagan

You as a catholic are 1000 times more pagan than them (and there is nothing wrong with it).

>>213494060
He didn't at first. Then he offered money to anyone who joins. Then he just snowballed. After that people were like: "um he is winning, then he must be right".

>>213494060
>What are legends?
>What is myth?
>How do people carry on historical information in a time of mass illiteracy?

>>213494337
Catholicism is not pagan. Actually pagans in Germany, New World, Britain and Basque country got fucked up by Catholics.

>>213494417
Why you worship Mary? You also obsessed with sacred objects like the Holy Grail and Jesus' foreskin.

>>213494456
why are you obsessed with a stupid rock and with pagan rituals like bowing and kissing it?

>inb4 it's not real paganism because Mohammed said so!
yeah it is lol

>>213494456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WT4ww71VeU

Adoration is not veneration my jungle dwelling friend.

>>213494520
That rock came from Heaven my neckbeard atheist friend. This is why ChatGPT will replace the Bible soon.

>>213494360
I'm baffled at Muhammed's early military career before he took Mecca. How did manage win all that.

>>213494554
>alhamdulillah that piece of rock came from Jannah it was revealed in the Holy Quran if you disagree you are a dirty kuffar!
whatever makes you cope

>>213494555
Allah's blessing, my fellow SEA

>>213494520
Catholicism is degenerate shabbosgoy abrahamic shit just like islam. Max Weber was right. Deal with it.

>>213494609
why did you get kicked out of Portugal, Spain, Greece, Romania, Sicily, Serbia, Bulgaria, Croatia and Hungary?

>>213494555
>Be Mo
>trick some Jews that you are the Messiah
>they elect you as your king
>use their military power to attack Meccans
>Literally intercept a Meccan treasure caravan during the sacred month
>ambush and take their money
>offer loot and money to everyone who joins you, kill everyone who refuses
>more and more nomads join you because of money and they actually believe that you have divine protection
>get attacked by Meccans
>ger defeated
>sue for peace
>promise peace
>kill your former Jewish allies
>stronger than ever
>march on Mecca
>tell everyone that everything you have done was in self defence
You know that during Mohamed's time there were 5 different active prophets in Arabia. Of course 4 were brutally murdered by Muslims.

>>213494456
Adoration =/= Veneration
You yourselves venerate Muhammad, Aisha and a lot of heroes of national/regional Islamic history as Saladin.

Christians just adorate God.

>>213494595
Nice selfie, chud. Mussolini's dead and that fascist scum is rotting in hell and he got raped by Satan.

>>213494417
>Catholicism is not pagan

>>213494630
It's like Adonai and the iron chariots. It's just Allah isn't equipped to deal with muskets and drones.
>>213494622
prtestantism is white Islam. Catholicism is based and soul.

>>213494663
Tell me another God than Jehovah for Catholics.

>>213494642
When you put it like that, it seems like he out jewed the jews.

>>213494630
the same reason we were there to be kicked out in the first place, my good friend

>>213494700
You know all well that in Protestant lingo Pagan means you do anything that isn't in the Bible. For example Protestants think that Christmastrees are pagan, because they were invented 1600 years after Jesus.

>>213494642
>4 other prophets

Context on this?

>>213494270
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadism

>>213494677
>this Eurojeet is comparing Protestanism with Islam
We call those people Salafi and they are cringe af. They say Muslims can't celebrate Muhammad's birthday or recite the Zikir with prayer beads.

>>213494711
Because he did. Islam is just less violent version of Judaism. The only problem is that they are universal and want the whole world to be Muslim. While Jews concentrate their savagery to Palestinian Children.

>>213494730
Which specific Protestant sect, as far I know Lutherans quite do all of that as well.

Also
>globoabrahomos arguing over their bullshit
delete this thread

>>213494787
It absorb your sins. The Hajar Aswad used to be white and crystal clear.

>>213494734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridda_Wars

Just look at the Wikipedia:
>God is talkin to me too
>Time to create my own re--ACK


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musaylima

Look at this guys. He is like a good version of Mohamed.

>>213494768
Americans obviously. We are on an American website
>>213494758
>Those are not real Muslims
>Real Islam is me when don't eat pork and live in my petrol state created by the British

>>213494677
It is quite typical that literally every developed region of Europe is protestant.

You will say: b-but France, northern Italy or southern Germany/Austria. However, these regions were originally protestant, they were returned to catholicism during the Counterreformation through violence and massacres. In France there were huguenots - they were slaughtered, the south german and the austrian protestants were also slaughtered, the moravian brethren were slaughtered, northern Italy was the center of proto-protestantism (Savonarola)

>>213494787
But catholics and "ortho"dox are 1000 times more paganistic than that

>>213494881
So then why should we accept that your take on islam is the real one? By the same criterion, you aren't a true christian.

>>213494950
Again, tell me another god than Catholics worship. Another god that Catholics do name as creator of the world as Catholics do with Jehovah.

Stop avoiding the question.

>>213494763
>Islam is just less violent version of Judaism
...

>>213494011
My nigga hogging all the wonders in Civ

>>213494854
Huh. Peeling off the theological skin.

When you look Mo's rise to power, he out played the political scene, manage to establish a political entity, and fueled conquests from tribal conflicts to the gates of the Persian and Roman Empire. Sure he had less savory things about him, but a military and political figure?

You gotta admire of a coming of age story of a merchant to warlord to king. You gotta have skills and shrewdness he did to take some nomadic tribes to be cohesive.

>be me
>Muslim
>natural ginger beard
>posts pictures of redheads on /int/ 24/7
>browse /int/
>see Christian vs Islam thread posted by /x/ schizos and Eurojeets
>they insult Islam but never insult Israel
This board is more right wing than /pol/. Even /his/ is not like this. No wonder why /int/ worships Sydney Sweeney.

>>213494011
that place looks cool

>>213494249
/pol/ is american tards and israel+russian bots.
/int/ is worldwide
Checks out.

>>213494975
You have two thousand saints and you follow bone processions, you kiss pictures and statues and believe it when they cry. Stop avoiding reality.

>>213494881
Islam have many different sects my brainlet friend. Easy on the cow poop.

>>213494950
I am a Catholic. You schismatic dog.
>>213495045
Arab Genghis Khan is a great ruler. To bad he sullied the name of our lord and savior.

>>213495088
/int/ also pro LGBT and woke

>>213495071
Int is nazis larping as brown people.
Pol is brown people larping as nazis.

>>213495095
That's not worshipping.
Jews and Muslims as well venerate saints and heroes in their own religions.
The prophets themselves from the Old Testament.

Stop lying you Turkish kebab fuck.

>>213495170
You look like this and you call yourself a Catholic?
LOL

>>213494520
Rocks are not stupid, they are cool

>>213495230
>SAAAAARRRR it's the Indian saaaaarrrr

>>213495230
>everybody who hates islam is...le indian
genuinely obsessed. fight your own battles, stop dragging us into this you utter faggot

>>213494917
>10.24
Curious...

>>213495200
Actually there are Islamic sects that worship saints. We call them Shia and Sufism. Don't trust the things you saw on the Internet my schizo friend. It's like watching Fox News and CNN. Go to your local library and read more books. Read nigga read!

>>213493924 (OP)
If muslims were so bad they would have been kicked out from hundred of places already

>>213495278
>>213495300
Denounce the Talmud and Veda

>>213495200
>That's not worshipping

Sure dude

I wasn't cheating on my gf because there was no emotional entanglement and it was anal.

>>213495170
Ah, I see, so your argument is "I am by definition correct in what I say". Haha, what a chad.

>>213495398
Veneration of saints is common in all Abrahamic religions, not specific of Catholics. Muslims themselves who were majority Shia until the fall of Arab caliphates when Gengis Khan fucked them out of existence venerated saints. Jews themselves venerate death rabbis and ask them miracles.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/israelis-pray-at-tombs-of-sages-and-rabbis/

https://cne.news/article/2985-jewish-pilgrims-pay-homage-to-late-miracle-rabbi

>>213494011
>it looks like the heckin baddie place in my proto-capeshit!

>>213493924 (OP)
Abrahamics is a mind virus fueled by psychosis, starvation and desertification.
There's no upside to it. Abandon it and embrace the peace that follows with established knowledge and science already.

>>213495559
*tips fedora*

>>213495601
Dude you are a jungle monkey

>>213495447
Yeah but muslims don't have depictions or stafues of them. And you know, most of these catholic customs are remnants from our paganistic past.

>>213495629
There are two Hungarians here. Are you the jeet behind VPN?

>>213495331
Kek you cant be serious Mohammad, tens of thousands of italians died to keep you out of Europe over the centuries

>>213495708
When you read Shia Analusian theologists stuff against Catholics it was not based around Saints venerations since Muzziies did it as well but about Trinitarianism.

All of pre Germanic Protestants influence Islamic and Jewish criticism to Catholicism was centered around Trinitarianis. A criticism shared with Arianists.

>>213493924 (OP)
>Kek you cant be serious Mohammad, tens of thousands of italians died to keep you out of Europe over the centuris, kike

The only place in Italy that was muslim for hundred of years was "liberated" by foreign intervention and the italians complained about it for centuries:
Islamic authors marvelled at the forbearance of the Norman kings:

They [the Muslims] were treated kindly, and they were protected, even against the Franks. Because of that, they had great love for king Roger.
Ibn al-Athir[35]

Interactions continued with the succeeding Norman kings, for example under William II of Sicily, as attested by the Spanish–Arab geographer Ibn Jubair who landed in the island after returning from a pilgrimage to Mecca in 1184. To his surprise, Ibn Jubair enjoyed a very warm reception by the Norman Christians. He was further surprised to find that even some Christians spoke Arabic and that several government officials were Muslim:[32]

The attitude of the king is really extraordinary. His attitude towards the Muslims is perfect: he gives them employment, he chooses his officers among them, and all, or almost all, keep their faith secret and can remain faithful to the faith of Islam. The king has full confidence in the Muslims and relies on them to handle many of his affairs, including the most important ones, to the point that the Great Intendant for cooking is a Muslim (...) His viziers and chamberlains are eunuchs, of which there are many, who are the members of his government and on whom he relies for his private affairs.
Ibn Jubair, Rihla.[36]

Ibn Jubair mentioned that some Christians in Palermo wore the Muslim dress and spoke Arabic. The Norman kings continued to strike coins in Arabic with Hijrah dates. The registers at the Royal court were written in Arabic.[32] At one point, William II of Sicily is recorded to have said: "Every one of you should invoke the one he adores and of whom he follows the faith".[37]

>>213496056
Drop the vpn Abdallah

>>213495778
>completely shifts the goalposts

Christianity in europe established itself on the proverbial and literal ruins of europe's former religions. The rest is cope. Comprende Pablo? Comprende.

>>213496224
>Pablo
They are all pakis using vpn

>>213496224
>completely avoids the point after being refuted
I get you concede here.

>Christianity in europe established itself on the proverbial and literal ruins of europe's former religions
Europe as civilization was born from Catholic scholars, the oldest known mention of Western civilization comes from a German dean from Cologne from XIII century.

Do you get it my Christianized Albanian amigo?

>>213495720
Nem.

>>213495778
>Sunni and Shia are the same

>>213496246
109, Moshe

>>213497068
Coglione sprepuziato

>>213496246
I just value Catholic heritage, Guisseppe, If you wanna be a wiccan I have no problem with it.

>>213497279
It is more than LARPing as something you are not.

>>213497348
I'm an atheist though

>>213496264
That has nothing to do with the point at hand, which is the historical fact that christianity in europe had to incorporate vast elements of local religions. Your posting is the equivalent of closing your ears while singing loudly. And the rest is christianocentric/ecclesiocentric doctrines probably shoved into your head by a church/parareligious/fascist-francoist group/household. You are disregarding the roman empire and the cultural commonalities among celtic, slavic and germanic peoples. Include greeks if you want, I don't care. Fucking retard, shut your mouth and keyboard and learn a thing or two about history. Compared to islam, christians in europe are a thousand times more paganistic.

>>213497883
Major coping post