Thread 213526626

why do americans teach this was justice act in school education?

wtf america

>>213526626 (OP)
now because of popularity of anime many young american know truth that atomic bomb was human experiment and not to end war faster
more need to watch barefoot gen and grave of fireflies

actually it's a question usually asked in school and you have to justify your reasoning, it's never portrayed so simply as justice act

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>>213526633
this is how american treat japanese soldier
they did not see as human
this is why we call american and british as demon during war

Give me an E

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>>213526658
and why do you have to ask? massacre of innocent civilian is obviously wrong and clear war crime
but your propaganda education teach that it was to end war faster

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>>213526728
Nigga you did the same and worse. Quit acting like you're innocent.

one thing netouyo will never tell you is that american government and military gave warning to the japanese, an ultimatum was issued to the government that if they didnt surrender america will deloy a devastating weapon
also leaflets were dropped warning of impeding bombing and encouraged evacuation

so that's a lot more warning then the ija gave to the civilians of nanjing desu

>>213526753
>tf
>tp

>>213526777
80? Damn we getting old

>>213526753
japanese army was most gentlemanly army in world
there was strict rule by command to not burn, not rape and not murder
propaganda such as nanking and unit 731 is lie made by victor countries
learn history idiot

>>213526691
>we didn't do this! you did it!
both armies tortured and committed exactions, but the Japanese army clearly was on another level.

>>213526771
>>213526891
that is just intimidation letter not warning to civilian idiot
also there was no warning before atomic bomb
and nanking is lie by ghq and ccp
there is no evidence of massacre of 300000 civilian
nanking was city of 200000 but increase to 250000 during occupation

>>213526771
people rarely blame their own stupid generals for continuing a war that is already lost.
fun fact there were more casualties on the very last day of WW1 than during D-day on WW2.

>under the direction of Beria Soviet intelligence ran an extremely effective spy network that infiltrated the US and British nuclear programs especially the Manhattan Project
>Klaus Fuchs a German-British physicist working on the Manhattan Project passed detailed bomb designs to the Soviets
>the Rosenbergs, US citizens passed information via espionage channels
>Theodore Hall one of the youngest scientists at Los Alamos gave critical details voluntarily
>Beria oversaw the gathering and integration of this intelligence and he also ran the Soviet bomb project like a military operation brutal pressure, tight timelines, and use of Gulag labor
>Soviet Union successfully tested its first atomic bomb in 1949, far earlier than Western experts had predicted
>Aleksandr Nadiradze also gave them mobile ICBMs to launch those nukes with
It was all us, sorry not sorry. If not for us we would all be talking English right now, oh wait I mean we would be talking much better English than we are right now yeah…yeah that makes sense, also no Chinese century would’ve arrived.

>>213526771
Sending a written threat detailing how you're gonna blow up my house with my family in it doesn't justify doing it, wtf is wrong with Americans?

>>213526887
japanese soldier never take head of american soldier to send home as trophy idiot

>>213527850
>repost the same story twice

>>213527850
charging at machine guns armed only with katanas and doing 9/11 on ships doesn't make you look human. It just makes you look like a bug trying to defend it's colony

>>213526626 (OP)
Harry S. Truman validated the bombing. He said that thousands of troops was saved by dropping the bomb. "it was a hard decision" said Truman
I think he's a pretty badass, point is, nobody cares about the incident anymore. U.S still controls the world trade, noone wants to bring that up anymore since it's relating to Japs.

really makes you hate the US.
the most evil nation on earth.

>>213526626 (OP)
because they teach that allies were the good guys and the axis the bad guys
Americans are dumb for a reason

>>213526771
Mongoloid take. Japan was a authoritarian state, people did not have freedom of movement nor did they have the means to just upend their entire lives and leave. It's the same every other time strategic bombing occured in every country.
Also both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hosting large number of korean and chinese convicts (slaves).
It's the same retarded logic the IDF uses today when it wants to bomb a neighborhood.
>>213526626 (OP)
It's not taught as an act of justice, no one who is sane has ever said that. It is always presented as a necessary evil, a way to end the war without a costly invasion of Japan. Which is bs of course, the real reason was that they had the bomb and wanted to show it off to put the soviets in their place in the upcoming peace settlement+they wanted to see the effects on a civilian population.

>>213526626 (OP)
it was super based

>>213529185
shut up idiot

>>213526626 (OP)
Do you think Japan would have surrendered with out it?

>>213526691
>he boiled the skull
Did he make lamp shades out of the man's skin as well?

>>213526626 (OP)
Nice hit! That was one clean bomb drop!

>>213526626 (OP)
History is written by the winners.

america deserved 9/11, inside job or not
needs a nuke in jew york for its atrocities imho

all satanite lgbtq lefties and all right wingie who worship a middle eastern arap man as a god or prophet need to culled

>>213528090
so you are idiot who think 9/11 attack is same as special attack force
you gaijin are bug with low intelligence

>>213526626 (OP)
If I had a war-winning weapon I'd use it too.

>This is payback for the mistreatment of other asians by the japanese
lmao no, the US never gave a shit about chinks and SEAniggers getting smoked, this was revenge for Pearl Harbor as well a quick and swift way to end the war.

>>213529931
it is well known fact your soldier do this thee is many evidence
also japanese government surrendered because of soviet invasion not the bomb
learn history idiot

>>213526626 (OP)
Send me 20 kilo of highly enriched uranium and 4 gram of tritium Takeshi. I will avenge you by flattening manhattan to the ground.

>>213530004
The bomb didn't win the war. Japan refused to surrender because they thought they could strike a deal with the soviets to help them turn the tide of the war. They were also in gridlock over the fate of the emperor. The allies were seeking unconditional surrender and they feared the emperor would be deposed or killed.
It was the combined invasion of Manchuria by the soviets and the deal struck over the emperor that sealed the deal. Hiroshima and Nagasaki had zero effect, especially when you consider that other attacks had already been more deadly and destructive. Nor was there a plan to invade Japan, as that was entirely unnecessary

>>213526728
Literally following the /pol/stinian playbook, you got defeated because the Japanese empire was invading multiple countries in Asia and allied with the Axis, and then you plaster an image of a crying child in your propaganda for more pathos points. You know a cause is evil when their way of gaining followers is plastering their dead kids everywhere for propaganda points, you don’t care about that child, all you wanted to do is more conquest

>>213526753
>>213530575
truth ncnd

>>213530450
You can debate what really ended the war but you can’t say that Hiroshima and Nagasaki had 0 effect on them. Clearly even with their spirit of martyrdom the Japanese were shaken from the fallout of the bombs. Remember that this was the first and only time in history where a bombing like this happened on a city

>>213530686
The japanese leadership in their memos and meetings made no mention of the attack and its scale and devastation was no different from previous fire bombings that used conventional methods.
Imperial Japan was a totalitarian dictatorship and its leaders fid not give a rat's ass about its people. They were ready to sacrifice every man, woman and child for the emperor. The destruction of two cities had no impact.
As a reminder I'm talking about the effect and decisions of the Imperial Council, the entity responsible for the war conduct and foreign policy, not of Japan as a whole.

>>213529931
>Do you think Japan would have surrendered without it?
actually yes, as they were already trying to negotiate for peace, but not unconditionally. the russian war declaration was perhaps the biggest motivator and the second bomb a good way to save face
also i'm not a big fan of bombing civilians and the mental gymnastics trying to justify it. just listen to the total psychos the israelis are

>>213530928
Yes in that aspect you’re right, the leadership was pretty unfazed by the atomic bombs, however what you say regarding the emperor being unfazed as well is historically contested, mainstream narrative is that the atom bombs drove him to eventually surrender due to this
Do you have a specific book recommendation for what you argue?
Also the demoralization aspect of the civilian population matters as well, since a highly propagandized society will get its bubble punctured when hit as hard in the firebombings and the atom bomb. Having two cities wiped out by the atom is still a propaganda loss regardless of how delusional the leadership is

>>213530686
Of course the jew justifies total extermination of goys. Shitmutticans are not human. We’re only allied to them because we’re a war dominion. Nobody likes them

>>213531428
>the emperor being unfazed as well is historically contested
It may be true but I mentioned the japanese leadership specifically because the emperor himself did not intervene at first. It was seen as improper, beneath him to deal with politics and military affairs. And though he might have been affected by the death of his subjects, he did not lift a finger when Tokyo was firebombed, nor when japanese people died en masse from starvation and disease as a result of the war. Knowing this and the fact, again, that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not any more or less deadly or brutal than other attacks, it is doubtful this alone would have been sufficient to sway his opinion.
>Also the demoralization aspect of the civilian population matters as well, since a highly propagandized society will get its bubble punctured when hit as hard in the firebombings and the atom bomb
Our experience of strategic bombing indicates without ambiguity that it has minimal effect on the population's opinion towards its leaders. It's more likely to strengthen their resolve.
The allies did strategic bombing not to affect the population's opinion but to disrupt military production and logistics via dehousing. Hiroshima was a notable exception, but only because the first intended target was unavailable and the sensitive nature of the bomb meant the US was unwilling to postpone or cancel the attack halfway through.

>>213526948
the nukes were obviously a war crime and it's a no brainier but I just enjoy the way you write man and sometimes I even wonder if you do it on purpose
Nevertheless keep cooking and exposing amerimutt propaganda

>>213526728
truth. these bombs were american war crimes

attacking civilians is always indefensible. the usa argument is total bullshit. you're fighting a war, go fight some soldiers to the last man. that's a war, fucking live with it. the moment you start killing civilians you're not fighting a war you're committing genocide.

>>213526626 (OP)
Nukes are supposed to be abrupt and satisfactory. Those slowass scenes are boring and frustrating as fuck.

Because it was. Should have dropped another 100.

>>213533088

Look at their tiny civilian death toll in comparison to the people they marauded for a decade.

>NOOOOO YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GET ME ON MY ISLAND I WAS THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO MASS MURDER

HAHAHA

>>213533088
4% axis civilians dead lmao.
I guess Germany and Japan really did win the war.

>>213532909
t. Bruce Yuezhi, international student at the university of Sydney

>>213526652
No, it's because they weren't the ones who were in the front lines. If zoomers were the ones fighting in WW2 you can bet your ass they would be begging for the bombs to drop so the war can end. Everyone loves to see themselves as the moral police until they're the ones who are put in the situation.

>>213532909
>attacking civilians is always indefensible
How can you say this without even showing a hint of irony?

>>213526626 (OP)
shut up schizo

>>213533194

It is painfully ironic whenever they whine about "muh Dresden" or "muh Hiroshima." The allies would have been within their rights to glass their countries and salt the earth.