Thread 213544257

If you close your eyes while he speaks it will be like listening to brazilian Al Pacino

>>213544257 (OP)
he's not that cool

>>213544257 (OP)
He sounds like a disgusting rat to me, that dude who can't do shit but has a way with words and can always get away with doing anything because retards believe him, this is literally him but at a national level. A professional bullshitter

>>213544257 (OP)
True

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WXp6i5nMEk

It's funny how both Lula and Bolsonaro have a lisp.

If you listened to anything he said and even closed your eyes then you surely look like this and live in somewhere like this

>>213544421
I need to hear him say "Porque ela tem UMA GRANDE BUNDA"

Why did Brazilians elect this guy? He was so famous for being corrupt back in the day, it would be like us electing Sócrates again

>>213544444
Oh god, the numbers

>>213544456
I just noticed it from a tiktok someone sent me
>>213544444
Is it actually an upper class thing in Brazil?

>>213544375
I have an IQ of 142, tested by two different tests at different times, and I believe in his intentions. I want to see you find a Bolsonaro supporter with an IQ higher than 99.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSPDV60nGUQ

>>213544444
mumbers

>>213544464
Corruption in Brazil accounts for 0.9% of GDP. What is done with the remaining 99.1% is much more important than any kind of moral virtuosity.

>>213544497
No??? Who says that?

>>213544580
Late capitalism in its neoliberal form is just that.
Pure moral panic, demonstrations of moral virtue, comparative scarecrows that never existed, and idealism without any materiality whatsoever.

>>213544257 (OP)
I hope he destroys Bolsonaro

>>213544444
>Those digits
>>213544497
Neither of them come from an upper class background

so bvsed...

>>213544787
Bolso looks and sounds like he lived all his life in an ivory tower

>>213544961
no he doesn't, he looks like your average low IQ middle class retiree
both are subhumans

>>213544953
>num governo em que alguem passa fome tem que decapitar o presidente
holy BVSED, I would vote for him if I were brazilian

>>213544953
CRUZADAS NA VEZUELA PRA QUANTO MEU PRESIDENTE? DÊ A ORDEM!

>>213544953
MEUS LADOS, esquerdistas defendem essa merda aí kkkkkkkkk

>>213544953
by the time he actually does it I'll be an old man and he will have been long since dead.

>>213545015
Really? I think he sounds completely alienated like a billionaire would. But then again idk how brazilian middle-upper class retirees are

>>213544953
baseado but holy shit that retarded write like a kid

An American friend said Lula sounds like "Cookie Monster speaking Portuguese", his raspy voice is because he was a smoker for 50 years.

>>213544580
você claramente não entende a corrupção

>>213545226
maybe the retarded buffoon type of billionaire, there's nothing about him that says wealth or sophistication, he's a simpleton, typical populist character.

>>213544257 (OP)
Lulaccino

>>213546964
Me explique de forma racional, sem subjetividades ou moralidades metafísicas o que é.

>>213547444
não

>>213544464
have you seen the alternative?

>>213547535
Ok obrigado por provar o meu ponto.

Its been a while since I hated on this old man.

>>213544257 (OP)
DON'T MIND IF I DO

>>213547662
t.jew

>>213544510
>filénome
puta merda é isso aí que vai iniciar minha esquizofrenia

>>213544510
Wtf

>>213544523
so you believe that brazil should be ostracized by the western world we are part of?

>>213548845
>western world we are part of?
lol

>>213545226
bolsonaro has a military background

>>213547858
I tried it and he sounds horrid.

>>213544953
why is he trying hard to not get reelected next time? he's pushing the new wave of bolsonaro haters away from him

>>213548845
Stop watching so much AI slop bolsotraitor propaganda on Tiktok. Israel and the US aren't the whole western world

>>213544464
it was either him or bolsonaro, the other candidates didnt have enough following to make a difference
even if it was someone better instead of bolso, lula would probably be elected because most brazilians are poor and want gibs

>>213548845
>the western world we are part of?
We are not.

>>213549023
>Brazil is le isolated from the world (Israel and the US are the whole world in case you wonder)

>>213549023
I dont even use tiktok, bolso and lula should be behind bars
>>213549059
this country is a western aligned democracy, inside the US sphere of cultural influence, completely dependable on american platforms and systems to be functional though

>>213549112
You meant a country subjugated by the Western sphere. Not part of it.
They are two different things.

>>213549112
>inside the US sphere of cultural influence
I'm losing my patience with verminous traitor rats such as yourself. Where is the military police in protests when we need them?

>>213549112
End-stage viralatism

>>213549059
Yes we are

>>213544510
This shit sent me. LMAO!

>>213545226
Upper class was Temer. Fucking mesóclises everywhere. Also Alckmin.

>>213548845
>Brazil
>West
kek. Also, Lula is the one pushing the Mercosul-EU trade deal.

>>213549112
I'm curious. Were African colonies part of the West in your mind as well?

>>213549378
>I'm curious. Were African colonies part of the West in your mind as well?
Yes if their culture was significantly influenced and molded by western traditions.

>>213549378
Leste... Oeste... sam cordenadas d localizações... posicionhamentum relatibos a objetos cóismicus...

Ocidental and Oriental entom ser deribatibos distuos and localizações definidos da nostra póprias linguages... tomadas imprestada d estrandieros pra seus póprios siguilificadous d posições polídikas...

+ em definições and nostra pópria linguages do qual elies tomaro sempre terás o meismos siguinificadous... dito istuos Brazio ser literialments ocidental... queiram or nope... podi continuá xorano... and si vinhere pra mim falare sobri istuos sempre tarei considerano destas formas...

Si otros tam inlouquecidos entom o poblemas nope ser meo... q inlouqueçam sozinhos... continuarei sanas tranquilinhas no meo cantim... com verdaderos siguilificadous and propósitous... rino da carinha dos amerigoudos q si axano moito espertão pra inganá genti esperta... aki nope... pois é...

Pra quem num sabias...

Ocidente... lugarinho ondi o sol si póim...
Orients... ondi o sol naisci...

Simplis assim... and continuará simplis... gentis estrandieras quereno minsiná minia pópria linguas... xorinho a seguires... and ser libres continuares xorano... pois é...

>>213544257 (OP)
Eyyyyyy gabagoool

>>213549445
And do you think they were considered Western and treated as such by the European colonizers? Have you not heard the expression "a mongrel born in a stable isn't a stallion" before? They don't respect assimilation. Just look at how the US treated South America and Europe post-WW2. They got the Marshal Plan and we got Project Condor. Read up on both and see if we are really seen as "west".

>>213549538
Not /bra/. English.

>>213549767
/int/... welcome niuféiguis...

>>213549767
>And do you think they were considered Western and treated as such by the European colonizers?
Doesn't change what they do or the language they speak.
>"a mongrel born in a stable isn't a stallion"
Human beings aren't horses and this is about culture, not muh genes. You're projecting your own mulatto inferiority complex unto others.
>They got the Marshal Plan and we got Project Condor.
They got the Marshal Plan after america and the soviets bombed them to smithereens. We got investment in our industry and military (in exchange for cooperation against the axis). The strategic benefit of europe was obviously much higher than ours, and there was real risk of losing them to the soviets, hence the marshal plan.

>Lula slapped a 92% tax on the whole world and people were just fine
>Trump taxed some of our products in 50% and everyone is going crazy
I really don't understand what is going on. Just some months ago Lula wanted to tax and/or control even small money transfers. Everything got expensive (I noticed and everyone at my job is complaining for a few months), but, somehow, the media ignores it.

>>213548940
That's based

>>213549938
>this is about culture, not muh genes. You're projecting your own mulatto inferiority complex unto others.
You can't be serious. /pol/ is just around the corner screeching how niggers should hang. The White House had the online memorials for black soldiers removed. If not even black AMERICAN SOLDIERS get respect, how can you say it's not about race?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz03gjnxe25o
Also, it isn't how I view myself, it's how they view me. If someone calls me a retard, it doesn't mean I think I am retarded. It means they think I am retarded. If you aren't getting that, either you are very stupid or very disonest.

>The strategic benefit of europe was obviously much higher than ours
Elaborate.
>They got the Marshal Plan after america and the soviets bombed them to smithereens. We got investment in our industry and military (in exchange for cooperation against the axis).
And coup d'etats.

>and there was real risk of losing them to the soviets, hence the marshal plan.
Us, too. But instead of offering better deals, the US gave dictators. It kind of reflects the current day America-China-South America, where China builds railroads and the US is trying to mess with our democratic process.

>>213550132
>And coup d'etats.
Was Brazil ever CIA'd, if only in attempted form?

>>213550132
I'm ignoring the upper part of your post because it's simply embarrassing.
>The strategic benefit of europe was obviously much higher than ours
Europe was war torn and on the turf of a very powerful soviet union, it was in the best interest of america to airlift food into Berlin to win an ideological war and secure their influence. They didn't airlift food into Berlin and fund reconstruction because europeans were true aryans.
>And coup d'etats.
Yeah, america bad, commies bad, whatever. We're still western.
>Us, too. But instead of offering better deals, the US gave dictators.
We had dictators before america gave us dictators, but whatever, i won't excuse their actions, the point is that you're western.
>China builds railroads
Yeah, China is amazing best country in the world long live xi, whatever you say. You're still not an easterner, though.

>>213550212
They tried in the 1950s against Vargas, but after his suicide we chimped out and burned everything from the American embassy to building of the communist party, so they gave up. In 1964 came the military junta, sponsored by the Americans.

>>213550361
>burned everything from the American embassy to building of the communist party, so they gave up
Brazil, glad to see the brazilians inherited the favstian spirit we lacked.

>>213550535
>Brazil
Meant to say "based" but typed Brazil instead, only to realize it's the same thing.

>>213550212
They funded the opposition and colluded with the military to fund and legitimize the coup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil%E2%80%93United_States_relations_during_the_Jo%C3%A3o_Goulart_government

>I'm ignoring the upper part of your post because it's simply embarrassing.
No arguments. I see.

>Europe was war torn and on the turf of a very powerful soviet union, it was in the best interest of america to airlift food into Berlin to win an ideological war and secure their influence. They didn't airlift food into Berlin and fund reconstruction because europeans were true aryans.
But why care about Berlin? Latin America and Africa were/are more resource plentiful. Even more so than Europe. There were two mostly available continents for the taking.

>We're still western.
No arguments. OK.

>You're still not an easterner, though.
No, but I am Global South, anon.

Economically, we are more closely related to China. Anyways, this is getting out of focus. The point is that Lula is doing the right thing by focusing on what is more economically viable to Brazil rather than becoming an American lapdog like Milei. If the Chinese are offering better trading deals, we take them.

>>213550603
Forgot to (You) you. >>213550296
>>213550603

>>213550603
>No arguments. I see.
Your argument was on the level of 'did you know they hang blacks in america', you're appealing to some kind of thirdie racial solidarity i don't give a shit about. Americans aren't even white.
>But why care about Berlin?
Because giving it away to the soviets would make them even stronger, see: containment.
>Global South
You're not russian, chinese or african. You're a western mulatto.
>Economically, we are more closely related to China.
China is the US's biggest trading partner, this means nothing when the chinese economy is closely related to every economy on earth.
>The point is that Lula is doing the right thing by focusing on what is more economically viable to Brazil
I guess. I'm not the anon who was arguing over trade. Trump is currently trying to strongarm everyone through trade over the most stupid reasons and most of it won't hold up, he doesn't have the jurisdiction to rule over trade-related matters.

>>213550562
Vargas was a fascist who did most of the communist suppression here, he also colluded with the military on a coup.
Military rule is an old tradition and you can see where the whole savior of the nation who's going to fix the country with the help of the military thing comes from. Support for this kind of idea was widespread and clearly hasn't died off in recent years.

>>213550855
You can't just put a shirt with an American flag and chant "USA" and be seen as one of them. It just doesn't work like that. It's like watching anime and thinking you can be Japanese because you are a weeb. Except the West is even worse. If they don't acknowledge blacks in their own country who are 100% part of their own culture and have contributed more to their world than I have, why would they acknowledge ME? We are not seen by them as one of them. Wake up. And it isn't just the US. The EU has been stalling a trade deal for 25 years and they keep making excuses up. Then in comes China and IMMEDIATELY buys our coffee so our economy doesn't break even though the Chinese mostly drink tea.

>You're not russian, chinese or african. You're a western mulatto.
Nah. I am a SOUTHERN mulatto. Global South also includes South America. Are you being dumb on purpose?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South

>Because giving it away to the soviets would make them even stronger, see: containment.
And why didn't we get the same containment treatment? Why was our containment different?

>>213551269
>You can't just put a shirt with an American flag and chant "USA" and be seen as one of them.
You're having real trouble understanding this, aren't you. You don't need Portugal's permission to speak portuguese or american permission to watch their movies, that's not how culture works. Who said anything about being american?
>If they don't acknowledge blacks in their own country
Yes they do, why are you repeating these 1960's psyops to me?
>Global South
commie terminology, i refuse it. doesn't even make sense geographically.
>And why didn't we get the same containment treatment?
Because the USSR did not have the same influence here, while Europe was Stalin's backyard.

>>213551269
>We are not seen by them as one of them.
The fact that you keep shamelessly repeating this is hilarious by the way. Literal mutt complex. I guess all that stuff about mutts really was projection all along.

>>213551526
Nigga, I also watch anime and speak passable Japanese. Guess that makes me Japanese, then. 僕は日本のアニメを見るから日本人です!That's your level of stupidity. India speaks English and Indians love Zack Snyder movies. India isn't a Western country. Macau speaks Portuguese. Is a Chinese province Western?

>Yes they do, why are you repeating these 1960's psyops to me?
I've already posted a link of the White House removing memorials for black soldiers. It happened this year. You are clearly not even engaging with what I am posting, so why even bother. This is your last (You). I am not entertaining you anymore.
>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz03gjnxe25o

>doesn't even make sense geographically.
Look at the map.

>>213551719
The "western world" is just USA and Israel now. Even Europe and Canada are taking in the fiofó these days

>>213551719
>Nigga, I also watch anime and speak passable Japanese.
We don't speak japanese here, or watch that much anime in reality. We're not talking about your individual weebness.
If we did, we would be a little more eastern, yes. Although Japan is also heavily westernized, you can be both.
>India
Eastern language, religion and many cultural traditions, but they have a little western influence, correct.
>I've already posted a link of the White House removing memorials for black soldiers.
I could post examples of racism here, or talk about how colored people are disproportionately the victims of violent crime, so Brazil doesn't acknowledge racial minorities. I'm not engaging with this line of argument because it's dishonest.
>Look at the map.
Australia is in the south, China isn't a developing nation.

>>213551719
Russia é Sul Global. Faz parte dos BRICS

>>213544510
Wtf this looks like my dad

>>213545226
Lmao. Bolsonaro is poor and Brazilian billionaires bankroll an support lula
Lula is a millionaire and receive “donations” from bankers through “lula institute”.
You just fell for the dumbest and most pathetic retroric in believing that bolso os rich or aligned with the rich and lula is le based working class who wants to kill le bourgeois.
Lula is bankrolled by Brazilian bourgeoisie

>>213549087
The most important country on earth is sanctioning Brazil Tho.
And also called out Brazil for crnsorship and political persecution.
France is small fish.

>>213544257 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1hfkJzREj5KI

>>213544510
That's fucking seu Jorge Soros

>>213554018
>The most important country on earth is sanctioning Brazil
Feijoada

>>213554018
Big day.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/china-welcomes-183-brazil-coffee-sellers-in-wake-of-us-tariffs/ar-AA1JPeV4

>>213554018
China is sanctioning Brazil?

>>213544510
O Sorosinho

>>213544523
Sure you do sweaty, sure you do

>>213551045
>Vargas was a fascist who did most of the communist suppression here, he also colluded with the military on a coup.
Incredibly based then