Thread 213560059

why are asians obsessed with medieval europe aesthetic?

>>213560059 (OP)
>medieval europe
It's the fantasy setting they're obsessed with, which often comes with the castles, knights, wizards, etc. aesthetic. They don't give a fuck about the actual "medieval" aspect of it, although there's a few bits of Japanese media like Berserk that sort of do.

>>213560059 (OP)
Because it's foreign and mysterious to them the same way their past is to us.

>>213560059 (OP)
Can I tell you guys a secret?
I haven't watched Frieren but pretend I have on /a/.

>>213560059 (OP)
You guys had taverns and guilds and explored dungeons for a living. For the average Asian, that is incomprehensible.

>>213560312
>and explored dungeons for a living
you know that's not real, right

>>213560338
We did raid the tombs of ancient Egyptians, if it counts.

>>213560059 (OP)
probably because they lack medieval architecture from their own country, as it was mostly made of wood and did not survive until now?

>>213560059 (OP)
only white people hate white culture

>>213560396
no. for every media about fantasy europe they have a million more about their own medieval asia. dumb motherfucker.

>>213560338
NO. Medieval Europeans (YOUR ancestors) would go adventuring and select a class when they turned 14 years old (mage, warrior, knight, cleric, etc). And if they killed a lot of goblins and orcs, they can progress up the ranks in the guild, like silver, gold, platinum, etc.
And the best adventurers even got recognition from the king, and might be hired to fight in wars and do other respected and difficult jobs.

Faggot.

>>213560396
They had a lot of buddhist temples until Meiji destroyed them

>>213560140
>>213560207
>>213560312
>>213560396
>>213560445
from my observation they have a lot more anime with fantasy medieval europe setting (isekai etc) then medieval asia

Chinese have a shitton of cultivation power stories

>>213560059 (OP)
They don't give a shit about actual white people.

They aren't collectively obsessed with it. Western fantasy novels and D&D were popular with nerds in Japan in the 80's same as here and this influenced their own fantasy media.

>>213560655
>glass windows
>in medieval europe

>>213560059 (OP)
Tolkien

>>213560655
well, by the same logic European cartoons often tend to show a regular American suburb with identical cookie-cutter houses as just the neighborhood the main character lives in
probably because...it just looks nice

>>213560140
yes but its a european fantasy setting created by arthurian legends and romance epics

>>213560312
The biggest adventuring Europeans did was the conquest of America in which people from all over Europe went to Iberia and changed their name signing up to go over the ocean to fight and conquer the unkown in another continent, after that I would say the Roman period where there were dudes who fought from the swamps in britain to the sand dunes of the middle east and Sahara, yet you fags never talk about that.

>>213560741
There were glass windows in Medieval Europe but you are right in they hadn't taken the form presented.

>>213560947
sorry I meant to say that only the richest of elites had access to them, and they were present in most religious buildings as well.

It's the European-themed content that is far more likely to be localized. You aren't watching Taiga dramas or 1227 episodes of Mito Komon.

>>213560059 (OP)
i don't want to see kimono fantasy that's weird

>>213561060
we’re western localized asians

>>213560911
That doesn't count. Guns were already in use by then. That's not medieval.

Medieval is before colonialism.

you idiots have no media literacy™ during the glory years of anime in the 70s most anime were either mecha garbage or adaptations of european children's classics, heidi, dog of flanders, anne of the green gables, nobody boys remi

>>213561106
There are often Japanese themed cultures in fantasy tho.

>>213560059 (OP)
Last time Europe was white

>>213561262
As a slight variation, it is unlikely to become mainstream.

>i will never live in a post-scarcity peaceful medieval europe fantasy world with elves
i suffer

>>213560655
Tbf the fantasy setting was birthed with European aesthetics of dungeons, elves, dwarves and castles + inns
Literally when you say fantasy those come to mind, I have NEVER seen a fantasy with Asian aesthetics, I'm not even sure what one would look like

>>213560750
>>213561733
Terry Pratchett once likened Tolkiens influence on fantasy to that of Mt. Fuji in certain genres of Japanese art. It's either the subject of the painting, it looms prominently in the background, or its omission is by itself a noteworthy artistic choice.

Looks like Extremadura, Spain.

It's not like medieval Europe was all that great or anything, but honestly, the material's rich as hell.

Endless wars dragging on, massive plagues killing thousands, peasants struggling to survive while nobles ignore or exploit them.
Political games, betrayals, and moral gray areas everywhere, with clear heroes and villains for stories to latch onto.

It's no surprise East Asians lean on this, Heroes appear in chaotic times, and it's the dark ages that truly shape their stories.
For now, medieval Europe fits that perfectly. it's a goldmine of conflict and tragedy to build on.

>>213560059 (OP)
It's called fantasy genre, chud.

>>213560059 (OP)
>>213560207
This.
>"Les circuits de consécration sociale seront d'autant plus efficaces que la distance sociale de l'objet consacré"
This is a Bordieu quote. And it makes a lot of sense.
>>213560911
>literally my favorite period of history of all time
I do.

Because they have good taste.

>>213560059 (OP)
Same reason why westerners like asian ones, its familiar and not as primitive as other civilizations of those time periods but also different and mysterious enough to set itself apart from medieval europe.

>ctrl+f wizardry
>0 results
alright then

'obsessed' huh?

>>213560059 (OP)
Most western culture and traditions were birthed during the medieval age, the Renaissance, and the age of Romanticism, so its only natural that people would be captivated by it. The medieval age in particular generates nostalgia because it felt like the average person had far more autonomy and privacy. Maybe your feudal lord would demand a certain percent of your crop yields but he wouldn't care what you do in your personal life, what your opinions on human nature are, or where you spend your time as long as you were not plotting to overthrow him. Modern liberal democracies in comparison try to micromanage every aspect of the human condition to conform to their enlightenment ideas of human nature.

>>213565094
If we genocide "people" like you the world will heal. Absolutely nobody thinks about medieval europe because they would have a better peasant life.

>>213565239
>Pointless strawman
Nobody said better. People long for the feelings of autonomy. Do you acknowledge that the powers that be exert more influence over our everyday lives than they did in medieval Europe? That people during that time lived near their extended family, had a stronger feeling of community, and didn't feel the government breathing down their neck every second of the day? Medieval Europe was the period that birthed most of our cultural.

>>213560059 (OP)
Not everything is an obsession you fucking retard. Modern fantasy as a genre was born in the west and so was influenced mostly by western history. Everyone around the world knows about fantasy that's not unique to Japs you fucking weeb.

>>213561733
Avatar the Last Airbender is fantasy inspired by Asian aesthetics (made by westerners).

>>213560059 (OP)
Dragon Quest popularized it in Japan. But honestly Tolkienesque medieval fantasy is just cool. You'd have to be a soulless automaton to not like it.