Thread 213576525

Why do they hate us so much? Can anyone please explain to me

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>>213576652
I mean they want us poor at any cost, we are literally a democracy that makes them rich and support their global values.

It makes no sense at all

Most Americans know next to nothing about Brazil. If they do, they probably think it's next to Mexico o algo.

>>213576525 (OP)
Not even they know the reason

>>213576525 (OP)
Because socialism/communism is le bad

>>213576525 (OP)
We do?

>helped commies get elected in 2022
>helps commies get elected in 2026
what's wrong with them? why do they keep supporting communists in my country?

>>213576525 (OP)
We don't even think about you

>>213576869
Not true given the recent happenings

>>213576896
Are you under the impression that tariffs are being set by public opinion rather than how Trump feels when he wakes up in the morning? The average America is likely unaware that the Brazil tariffs are even a thing.

>>213576925
Which is even worse, you guys don't even know what your government do, specially when it deals with consumer prices and inflation

>>213576525 (OP)
>>213576787
>>213576810
Your countries are exactly the same. A big ass diverse country full of mutts made of all known and unknown races, obsessed with race at sickening levels, complex superiority, and the most abhorrent posters online.

>>213576525 (OP)
Most Americans don't care about anything beyond their most immediate concerns, political and corporate leaders however are openly embracing a predatory approach to diplomacy now that we've been facing a crisis for the past few years and post-pandemic inequality has sharpened to the point of civil unrest in the future being a strong likelihood

>>213577004
>Most Americans don't care about anything beyond their most immediate concerns
But that affects their immediate concerns

>>213576971
People are aware tariffs are happening and if it causes rising prices they will be mad, but they have no idea what the tariff rate is for each country.

>>213576525 (OP)
every time i see a brazilpost they are seething about us

>"Why do they hate us so much?"

Oh no. Someone thinks geopolitics is a feelings-based soap opera again.

Newsflash: The U.S. empire doesn’t “hate” Brazil. This isn’t personal. It’s just capitalism.

Empire doesn’t operate on emotion, it operates on profit, plunder, and power. The U.S. ruling class isn’t staying up late, weeping into its McMansion pillows over Brazil’s vibe. It’s calculating. And in that calculation, Brazil's role is clear: a compliant periphery feeding the imperial core.

Here’s how it works: Brazil is rich in resources, but not supposed to be rich from them. In the eyes of imperial capital, Brazil exists to extract, export, and obey. Industrial sovereignty? Economic planning? Nationalization? These are *existential threats* to the global capitalist order. If Brazil starts acting like its resources belong to its people, suddenly it’s a “crisis of democracy.” U.S. foreign policy exists to protect capital, not feelings. The IMF, the World Bank, and “free trade” deals are not sadistic, they’re strategic tools of class warfare. They exist to ensure that Brazilian workers remain cheap, Brazil’s markets remain open, and Brazilian elites stay aligned with foreign capital. It’s a system built to keep the Global South dependent, deindustrialized, and docile. When Brazil steps out of line, it gets punished. Lula? Dilma? Any government that dares talk about redistribution or sovereignty gets met with “anti-corruption” lawfare, capital flight, or even coups, soft or otherwise.

>>213577035
brazil is literally the 2nd biggest meat exporter of the world, and the US is literally the biggest destination of our exports, lmao. It literally affects the average american

>>213577030
It does but it's too abstract for them to care about, most people are worried about paying their bills and credit card debt not whatever's going on outside of their lives

>>213577084
Why? Because real democracy (you know, one that challenges oligarchy and imperialism) is a threat to the whole transnational capitalist system. This isn’t just about Brazil. It’s about maintaining a world-system where the U.S. sits atop the pyramid, and the Global South supplies the bottom rungs. Any move by Brazil to industrialize, integrate regionally, or assert its independence becomes a geopolitical “problem” to be neutralized, by NGOs, financial “aid,” media narratives, or boots-on-the-ground if needed. So no, comrade, it’s not that “they hate us.” It’s that capitalism hates resistance. Imperialism hates autonomy. And the empire doesn’t care about your feelings, it cares about extracting value.

Until we dismantle the global capitalist order and build a system based on solidarity, sovereignty, and socialist cooperation, the boot stays on the neck, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s worn with a smile.

>>213577037
You guys are also constantly seething at us

>>213576525 (OP)
America has no friends, every other country is, for them, either an enemy or a tool to please its six pointed master.

>>213577094
yes but they're not going to notice until beef and coffee prices rise.

>>213576525 (OP)
The average American thinks Brazil is jungle Mexico with soccer.
That's literally it

>>213577159
i dont think so, you are constantly ignored in my experience. as it should be.

>>213576984
Weird post for someone from a diverse latin american country full of mixed people

>>213577285
almost as if he is a VPN with second intentions

>>213576525 (OP)
It's a mystery
I think they're insecure and always afraid of competition o algo

>>213576525 (OP)
narcissism of small differences
americans see themselves gradually turning into brazil, and they’re not happy about it

>>213577084
>>213577117
>Brazil is rich in resources, but not supposed to be rich from them. In the eyes of imperial capital, Brazil exists to extract, export, and obey. Industrial sovereignty? Economic planning? Nationalization? These are *existential threats* to the global capitalist order. If Brazil starts acting like its resources belong to its people, suddenly it’s a “crisis of democracy.”
>They exist to ensure that Brazilian workers remain cheap, Brazil’s markets remain open, and Brazilian elites stay aligned with foreign capital. It’s a system built to keep the Global South dependent, deindustrialized, and docile.
>Any move by Brazil to industrialize, integrate regionally, or assert its independence becomes a geopolitical “problem” to be neutralized
Brazil is not as weak as you represent. We already have nationalized oil and big government participation in mining companies. The Americans exempted our high value added industrial products from the 50% tariffs because they are actually dependent on them. Our markets are not that open, being pretty protectionist (good thing). Our country has also managed to integrated regionally with Mercosul

Brazilian nationalists are almost as pathetic and hilarious as jeets

>>213577711
Perfect — here's a sardonic, counter-hegemonic, leftist response to that statement, keeping the tone sharp and informed, while dismantling the illusion of strength with historical and political context:

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Ah, the comforting lullaby of mid-tier developmental nationalism: **“We’re not that weak! Look at our national oil company! Look at Mercosul!”** Yes, let’s squint really hard and pretend the scraps of state sovereignty that haven’t yet been auctioned off on a Washington spreadsheet somehow make Brazil untouchable. Spoiler: they don’t.

Let’s take it piece by piece:

* **“We have nationalized oil!”**
Sure—on paper. Petrobras still exists, technically owned by the state, but let's not act like it's an autonomous engine of national development. Half of its strategic operations are structured around *pleasing foreign shareholders*, not funding schools or building factories. Remember when pre-salt was going to fund the future? Now it funds dividends and debt service. Petrobras has become a **state-owned cash cow milked by global finance**, not a tool of sovereignty.

* **“Big government participation in mining!”**
You mean like Vale? The same Vale that was privatized in the 90s and now runs like a corporate colonial governor, extracting wealth while turning rivers into toxic sludge and communities into rubble? If that’s state participation, it’s the kind where the state shows up to clean up corpses, not direct the economy.

>>213576525 (OP)
No one here hates Brazil

>>213577868
* **“The Americans *need* our industrial exports!”**
Oh please. As soon as it becomes strategically or economically inconvenient, those tariff exemptions disappear faster than a sovereign finance minister under IMF pressure. Dependency is not strength. They’ll tolerate Brazilian imports *only* so long as they don’t empower real industrial autonomy or geopolitical leverage.

* **“Our markets are protectionist!”**
Despite this supposed protection, industry keeps bleeding, manufacturing keeps shrinking, and multinational giants still dominate key sectors. Protectionism is just a word when there’s no national plan to *build capacity* behind the wall. What’s the use of a tariff if the internal economy is still structured around primary exports and foreign supply chains?

* **“We’ve integrated regionally with Mercosul!”**
Mercosul has potential—when it’s not being **sabotaged from within by comprador elites** who’d rather sign separate trade deals with Washington than build a Latin American bloc that actually resists imperialism. Regional integration is a powerful idea, but without political will and anti-imperialist coordination, it ends up being a customs union for soy barons and car part exporters, not a revolutionary alliance.

So yes, Brazil has tools. Institutions. History. Potential. But **raw capacity isn’t the same as power**—especially when every step toward autonomy is undermined by local oligarchs, imperialist pressure, and a political class that confuses national sovereignty with serving capital in Portuguese instead of English.

You don’t win the game by holding a few pieces. You win by playing for the *right side*—and Brazil, for now, is still playing a junior role in someone else’s empire.

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Let me know if you want this tailored further to a specific audience (academic, online debate, protest speech, etc).

>>213576525 (OP)
The whole world should hate Lula, Bolsonaro would've been much better

t. South American

>>213576751
>democracy
Lmao De Moraes is basically an untouchable god sending people to prison for political reasons at a whim

>>213577899
>Let me know if you want this tailored further to a specific audience (academic, online debate, protest speech, etc).

kek

>>213577946
>>213577991
Ah, there it is — **the expat gusano critique**, straight from a cozy flat in Spain, sipping Rioja while moralizing about Brazilian politics like a colonial bureaucrat tutting at the savages from the metropole.

Let’s unpack this masterpiece of reactionary confusion.

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**“De Moraes is basically an untouchable god sending people to prison for political reasons at a whim.”**
Oh no! You’ve just discovered that liberal democracy is *selective and repressive*! Welcome to Earth. Yes, the Brazilian Supreme Court is an unelected technocratic institution with terrifying power—but you only started clutching your pearls when it began targeting *your side’s* fascist cosplay insurrectionists who wanted to storm the capital and reinstall a banana republic theocratic clown show.

Were you this upset when Lava Jato was orchestrating *lawfare* to criminalize the left with no evidence, judicial leaks, and judge-prosecutor collusion? Or did you clap along back then, thrilled that the empire’s local servants were doing their job?

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**“The whole world should hate Lula.”**
Of course they should! He committed the unspeakable crime of… reducing hunger, expanding social programs, and daring to talk about Latin American integration. The horror. You say “the world” should hate Lula, but you mean **Wall Street, Madrid’s upper crust, and Miami’s yacht club set**, not the millions of Brazilians who could eat three meals a day because of Bolsa Senpaiília.

The only thing more predictable than your hatred of Lula is your fantasy that the world shares it. Newsflash: **most of the Global South sees Lula as one of the few leaders who challenged imperial economic diktats without immediately getting regime-changed**.

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>>213578145
**“Bolsonaro would’ve been much better.”**
Ah yes, the fascist who couldn’t run a pandemic response, turned the Amazon into charcoal, praised torturers, and made Brazil an international joke. Much better. The man whose only economic policy was handing the country to Paulo Guedes and praying that Chicago Boys economics would bring salvation. Better. The guy who let military cronies run ministries like they were drunk at a barracks karaoke night. Definitely better.

Of course *you* think Bolsonaro was better—you don’t live in Brazil. You get to LARP about “freedom” from a European social democracy while cheering on policies back home that **gut public health, sell off national industries, and militarize favelas**. That’s not patriotism. That’s comprador cosplay.

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So here’s the reality: you’re not offering brave dissent—you’re regurgitating **imperial talking points with the smugness of someone who thinks the Spanish welfare state is a personal achievement.** Enjoy the tapas. The rest of us are actually fighting for something.

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Let me know if you want this turned into a Twitter thread or Instagram carousel — always happy to sharpen the knives further.

holy autism

>>213577423
Is that why they also hate Canada?

>>213579004
idk if we deserve the hate but Canada certainly doesn't

>>213579004
Sort of. Canada is a U.S. puppet state, and is frequently used as a testing ground in which their elites can try out deranged shit on Canadians before rolling it out in Canada

>>213580385
>before rolling it out in Canada
*in America

>>213576751
World politics isn't actually about values retard.
You could mimic all of our political rhetoric one to one and it wouldn't make a difference or change the U.S's foreign policy in the slightest

>>213577117
ChatGPT post

>>213580529
well that's news to me. Because prior to trump mirroring the USA and accepting US values meant that you were a US ally. I mean it was conditional for US investments in your country

>>213576845
>why do they keep supporting communists in my country?
We don't want you guys getting too powerful

>>213580585
>accepting US values meant that you were a US ally
Explain Saudia Arabia then

>>213580621
a convenient exception

>>213580616
it's the other way around tho