Thread 213667737

how is this not idolatry? also they seem to worship Muhammad much more than Allah, what's up with that?

>>213667737 (OP)
There's no idolatory. That thing there is just a sweet liquorice hard candy bolted to the side of Kaaba to enjoy.

>>213667737 (OP)
is that allah's godpussy?

>>213667737 (OP)
It is and it's why shia aren't considered muslim

Ibn Taymiyyah said:

“They (Shia) are greater disbelievers than the Jews, Christians, and Indian idol-worshipping Brahmans.”

[Fataawa (35/155)]

Reminds me of this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8aGT2g0jtg&t=1098s. 18m18s if the timestamp doesn't work.

>>213667737 (OP)
Tight white Kabussy made for Black Dravidian Lingam

>>213668154
Those people are Shia?

>>213667737 (OP)
do they at least clean that shit

>>213668426
as the pussy of god, it's always pure

>>213668320
Yes and sunnis aren't allowed to pray with them. The majority of sunni scholars don't even consider them people of the book because they venerate the prophets bloodline and various other nonsense like building shrines and beating themselves over an event when they tried to kill the caliph and failed. They're considered the worst of disbelievers and the damage the caused throughout history has been more than any religion combined

Saladin

"I will not fight the Crusaders while my back is exposed to the Shias."

Imam al-Sha'bi

"The Rafida are the Jews of this nation. They hate Islam as the Jews hate Christianity. They embraced Islam, not because they longed for it or because they feared Allah, but because they detested the Muslims and intended to overpower them."

The most sacred relic in Islam, the Black Stone of the Kaaba, is never allowed to be examined properly. That's because it's likely not a divine creation, but just an ordinary stone, maybe even painted black. If it turns out to be nothing more than a regular rock, then Muhammad would be seen as nothing but a fraud and a pedophile. Overwhelmed by betrayal, Muslims might stop believing in Islam and attempt to destroy the Kaaba itself

>>213668710
wait, isnt that the same kube that sunnis worship in saudi arabia?

>>213668872
It's been examined and the shia once stole it for a century because they thought their mahdi would arrive with rituals and they would teleport to Jerusalem and bring about the end of times in the year 900. When they caliph found the tribe that stole it their ayatollah smeared it with feces and killed himself

>>213668710
Every once in a while i enter some islam thread and remember how fucking weird this ashura festival is. Weird is the wrong term its degenerate

>>213668710
>They hate Islam as the Jews hate Christianity.
lowkey based, i wish sunni weren't our civilizational enemy

>>213669002
That photo's from london

>>213669002
>worship
We don't worship it. The Kaaba is a praying direction. Our first direction was the Al-Aqsa mosque in Palestine.

>>213669126
kek

>>213669169
i want to touch the stone now

>>213669004
Dude... there's no way that modern scientific analysis is the same as the investigations done in an era without explosives. If they're so confident, they should just take the stone out and ask Western advanced countries to analyze its composition. But they never do, right? Why is that? It's probably just a stone painted black, or maybe an ordinary stone with some unusual minerals mixed in that give it a different color.

>>213668710
Isn't the whole shia split based on mohammeds right hand man disregarding his last wish to make ali caliph

>>213669549
Ali became caliph. Shias splintered off with Hussein and began worshipping the prophets bloodline after karbala. They're theology is confusing and not consistent but some see Ali as the true prophet and some see him as secretly God and controller of the universe and with the imams who are related to the prophet

>>213669429
It might not be the original but the stone is meaningless overall to sunnis. Also we're in the middle of a war with kuffar and don't need more nonsense propaganda from christians and jews who keep teaming up with shias and using the word sacred and holy. Saudi Arabia is 30% shia and if it's propagated to be fake or dated wrong by a western science foundation Mecca will be attacked and sunnis will be slaughtered in the streets by the mahdis armies or whatever and it wouldn't be the first time even in the 21st century what hey did in Iraq was insane because they thought the mahdi was about to re-appear after Saddam fell

>>213670273
>Jews
>teaming up with Shias
But Iran and Israel hate each other

Is that a drawing????? NOOO absolutely haram. Worship of the holy airplane toilet? Perfectly fine.

>>213670578
Shia worships portraits.
themoreyouknow.gif

>>213669004
Islamic lore is crazy
>>213669429
Duelde they think they are going to heaven where there are dozens of sexual slaves waiting them. They will always be retarded no matter what

>>213670479
Shia's are going to believe a jew before a sunni due to historical animosity along with the fact that most western oriental sources on islam are from shias who are well respected and took in Napolean when he almost conquered the caliphate. If the BBC and CNN start publishing nonsense the shia will chimpout and begin the never ending quest for a violent apocalypse so their mahdi can come of his cave and fight the anti-christ(dajjal) who's supposed to be sunni in their eschatology

>>213668872
>If it turns out to be nothing more than a regular rock, then Muhammad would be seen as nothing but a fraud and a pedophile. Overwhelmed by betrayal, Muslims might stop believing in Islam and attempt to destroy the Kaaba itself
If only it was that easy, lmfao

>>213667737 (OP)
Why are they rimming an anus shaped hole on a giant rock? I don't get it.

>>213670938
I said shia not muslims. They wouldn't stop believing they would kill sunnis and begin a new eschatology for the end of time battles and another million sunnis would die again. Shrines, rocks, graves etc. aren't actually sacred to sunnis and it would stir up more hatred on both sides. Before the founding of the Saudi state. All of the prophets belongings, the graves of his relatives, his grave etc. were supposed to be destroyed so the shia would stop obsessing over them and possibly become sunni but the british stopped them

>>213671297
Sunnis kiss the rock you retard

Shias dress up like lions and run around

>>213671384
https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/64056-kissing-the-black-stone/

>>213671450
It's in the kabba in mecca and is kissed during hajj.

Why are you lying are you just ashamed?

There are unironic religious muslims on 4chins

>>213671660
In 2016 abrahamics invaded this site. You would never see this stuff or from the christian perspective "christ is king"

Mental how Islam just absorbed elements from the pagan religions people followed at the time.

>>213671660
So?

>>213671821
Isn't this degenerate site haram?

>>213671870
That's meaningless, I remember fixing an old strict Muslim housemate's PC and finding tonnes of porn on it that he'd downloaded (who the fuck downloads porn?)

>>213671898
I mean, considering your country made a porn loicense mandatory, I guess there's some practicality to it

>>213671870
Still better than Discord

>>213671601
It's kissed during hajj and umrah but's also considered shirk and Muhammad Ibn Wahabb considered it idolatry and went to war with both sufis and shias for a lot of their practices. Just because millions are doing something doesn't make it islamic

>>213671870
I just don't let it influence me.

>>213671870
They bend their rules all the fucking time. I went out on a date with a Muslim girl last week thinking I could slowly get her to open up (not worth the energy). She acknowledged that the date alone was haram but she still had a rigorous praying schedule and all that.

>>213672030
Good for you

>>213667737 (OP)
what if someone took a shit in it?

>>213673283
They did

>>213673283
The shia already did that once
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qarmatians

>>213672042
>things that never happened

>posts a picture of mecca where every muzzie goes to kiss the rock
>NOOO IT WAS DAH SHIA
why are they like this?

>>213673652
You supposed to kiss the stone, not lick it.

>>213673720
go and tell that to your fellow muzzies

>>213673535
lmao rattled

>>213673532
No wonder they seethe so much about them. Imagine licking the toilet rock lmao

>>213673756
People do. Sufis are considered to be commiting shirk(idolatry) and shia are considered to be complete disbelievers. The caliphs had more control over these practices but with the loss of the caliphate no one can be controlled anymore

Guys it's a fucking rock
The amount of head canon invented by 2 billion people is depressing
It's fucking rock

>>213673483
kek

>>213674064
...but the people are retarded

I dont feel like going over the entire thread replying to people individually but i'll try to be concise
In theory, theologically speaking it should be forbidden but who tf cares about strictly following religious rules. People who visit mecca could have superstitious backgrounds from countries that have marabouts and local revered imams or whatnot. It goes against sunni teachings but people do it anyways
For the muhammad worship it's a misconception since he's a mortal, no muslim ever worship him
In fact jesus and moses and abraham are in the 5th 6th and 7th heaven iirc while mohamad is in his grave like everyone else. Shias on the other hand have a trinity thing going on with Ali and some of them believe Gabriel gave the prophecy to the wrong person

>>213674235
>>213673986
>we don't do this
imagine lying so blatantly. Every one of you does this

>>213674235
Did some Muslims really try to do the holy trinity?

>>213674332
Don't about Shias but Alawites do

>>213667737 (OP)
Wait, the black cube has a snatch? And they service it?
Is this why so many arab flag and immigrants under western flags spam racebait blacked porn because the black cube reminds them of the black african nigger anus?

>>213674398
The blacks cube has a vagina

>>213674329
I'm not saying that people dont do it, im explaining the thought process
It's forbidden but people do it, this is the most concise way to put it
>>213674332
>>213674380
Shia trinity is mohamad, ali and god himself
Alawite trinity is some weird esoteric shit i wont detail more because im not qualified to do so but it's a syncretic religion and they celebrate all kinds of holidays from other religions and have some initiation process thing

>>213674329
Nope, the muslims are in a constant state of accusing each other of apostasy. It is said that islam would be split into 73 sects and only one will go to heaven.

That's how retarded the situation is. They are even confused when defining who is a muslim themself

>>213668154
None of the people in the picture are Shia
especially the guy with the hat.
Licking and kissing that stone is a normal thing for all Mudslims
Doing taqiyah and the countery you post from shows how pathetic you are
Kys