>France literally used to have tradcath armor-clad girls
i…. i kneel to FrenchGODS

I could fix her

>>213735394
she would have slain you for being a Calvinist secularist heathen

>>213735347 (OP)
bvilt for pagan barbar cock

>>213735526
She would have been the Cleopatra to my Mark Antony

>>213735536
evil to speak of a pious, chaste, saintly woman of her stature like that. what would Allah think of what you just wrote?

>>213735657
i'm not muslim 'beit, if allah gives me 14 virgins NOW then i'll reconsider

Isn't it hilarious? Christianity bans idol worship but worships Jesus like an idol. It's obvious idol worship. So 300 years later, the Council of Nicaea made Jesus God's avatar to justify their own idolatry. Pure hypocrisy. And they say some girl received divine revelations from a god with such contradictory doctrines? Haha, just a scammer

>>213735728
an idol is anything that is worshiped or deified that is NOT God. You literally cannot commit idolatry by worshiping Jesus because He IS God to us.

>213735728
>>213735750
please don't interact with the avatarfag

>>213735750
If Jesus truly is God, then why did early Christians spend centuries arguing over His exact nature?

The Council of Nicaea had to invent the God-avatar idea to patch obvious contradictions. Worshiping Jesus separately from God the Father clearly contradicts monotheism's core.

Sounds like convenient theology to cover up idol worship

Beautiful vulnerable french girl.

>>213735786
i know what i’m getting into but i’m addicted to theological discussions
>>213735797
>If Jesus truly is God, then why did early Christians spend centuries arguing over His exact nature
this is an interesting discussion that i do not have the time to get into, but it mainly comes down to three major points:
1. Though Christ revealed both His divine and human natures to us, the ‘relationship’ of those natures was never explicitly explained to the Apostles, which led to their speculation on whether or not Christ’s divine and human natures were different, conjoined, if they were unified as one or if he had two full natures, and even if He was God at all, or rather a prophet
2. Translation issues. Koine Greek is notoriously difficult to literally translate into other languages, particularly into Latin and the other existing European languages at the time. On top of this, the many early Christians, Church leaders, blesseds, and saints who found themselves partaking in these discussions found themselves making different conclusions based off the early church texts, influenced by literal translation issues, cultural differences, existing religious influences (for example, the Trinity was notoriously difficult for non-Pagan societies like Judea and Samara to accept). For example, many speculate that the Arias, after expulsion, went to Arabia and spread the Arian heresy, which potentially set the stage and theology which would go on to set the stage for Islam.
3. Politics. Many Bishops at the time were already seeking to expand their individual interpretations of the faith amongst their fellow Christians, and therefore would argue things which were not necessarily heretical, but semantic arguments which would be weaponized to accuse their fellow Christians of misunderstanding the faith. On too of this, you had many Christians under foreign powers, like the Armenians who were unable to partake in Chalcedon because of their war with Persia

>>213736156
All that theological debate and translation issues bullshit. But let’s be real, if Jesus was really God, they wouldn’t have needed centuries of political drama and councils just to agree on that. Sounds more like a bunch of power-hungry guys making shit up to keep control

>this is what Frenchers see when they step outside

>>213736319
>All that theological debate and translation issues bullshit. But let’s be real, if Jesus was really God
the issue with your argument is that the debate wasn’t about whether or not Jesus was really God, He said He was, it was about HOW His divinity functioned.
>Sounds more like a bunch of power-hungry guys making shit up to keep control
I would in some part agree with you on this, but many Church fathers were arguing out of genuine belief too.

>>213736420
Yeah, they argued over how and not if, but guess what? Spending centuries splitting hairs over how a supposed god works screams made-up religion more than divine truth. And sure, some were genuine believers, But doesn't make it less fake

Becuase a whole lot more were just power tripping bishops using faith as an excuse to fight turf wars

>>213736502
well your issue seems to be one of faith, because to the secularist, all religions are “made-up”. the difference between the secular and the pious are that the pious have faith that what they believe is true, putting rationalism, materialism, and sometimes even observable reality aside.

>>213735347 (OP)
Just imagine how many Anglo cocks she took in her final hours...

zamn...

>>213735394
>>213735536
She is a saint idiots.

sorry haha x

>>213736598
But how's that faith work when your holy book is full of contradictions?

Like, seriously, is it really "divine truth" that small mistakes get punished by stoning, yet murderers get off easy? Or that God changes his mind all the time? Sounds more like a badly written soap opera than some ultimate truth.

>>213736688
>yet murderers get off easy
that simply is not true, one of the Ten Commandments given to Moses explicitly states that among the highest Holy laws, murder is one of the gravest of sins.

Not to mention, in the New Testament, the height of the Pharisees’ hypocrisy is shown at their choosing to set Barabas, a murderer, free, while choosing to sentence Jesus to death

>>213736319
Jesus was too busy cursing fig trees and receiving footrubs from adulteresses to explain it Himself. Pls understand.

>>213735347 (OP)
>trad
>wearing trouser

Absolutely SINFUL

>>213736873
John 8:49-59
>““No,” Jesus said, “I have no demon in me. For I honor my Father—and you dishonor me. And though I have no wish to glorify myself, God is going to glorify me. He is the true judge. I tell you the truth, anyone who obeys my teaching will never die!” The people said, “Now we know you are possessed by a demon. Even Abraham and the prophets died, but you say, ‘Anyone who obeys my teaching will never die!’ Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?” Jesus answered, “If I want glory for myself, it doesn’t count. But it is my Father who will glorify me. You say, ‘He is our God,’ but you don’t even know him. I know him. If I said otherwise, I would be as great a liar as you! But I do know him and obey him. Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad.” The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!” At that point they picked up stones to throw at him. But Jesus was hidden from them and left the Temple.”

>>213736848
Murder is a grave sin, but the whole set a murderer free, kill the innocent story just highlights how twisted the system was exactly the kind of injustice you'd expect from a religion built on human politics and power plays. am i wrong? lol

If your """holy laws""" can't even protect the innocent, maybe it's not divine justice, just human hypocrisy dressed up in robes

>>213736965
Jesus’ death and resurrection were decided at the beginning of time. Again, the reason Christianity exists is because the Abrahamic covenant was nullified as the Jews had fallen from God one too many times. At the height of their theological hypocrisy and fallen grace, they abandoned one of the laws of the Mosaic law in order to kill the Messiah. This is the basis for Christianity’s existence, it is why Jesus Christ is considered “the new covenant”. Just as God wiped the earth clean with the great flood, Jesus was the flood which wiped the earth clean and set it anew.

John 11:25

>>213737144
HAHAHAHAH Oh mate, Looks like you don't even know about the stoning stuff in the Bible where petty sins get punished with death sentences. Selective reading much?

And it was all pre planned? Convenient. Sounds more like a cosmic scapegoat story to cover up centuries of religious failures and brutal power grabs. also wiping the earth clean with a flood? Great, a genocide metaphor dressed up as salvation lol

>>213736965
>maybe it's not divine justice, just human hypocrisy dressed up in robes
Jesus said as much. Modern Christians obviously see themselves as completely different from the pharisees Jesus criticised, but they should know that this kind of thing can happen.

>>213737239
i enjoyed our conversation but i think i will end it here

>>213737302
Yeah, that conman Jewish carpenter story is a riot. Spent 3 years fooling people, cursing trees, defending murderers, preaching love to others while whipping merchants in the temple himself, a real monkey wrench of a guy.

Bold and badass, gotta admit