Thread 213739485

1)Your cunt
2)Your thoughts on clean and renewable energies?

Free energy sucked from the air

A massive boon for countries like the UK with lots of wind

I like how chuds still shill for coal and pretend to care about statistically insignificant bird deaths when wind and solar are literally cheaper now.
They never had values other than butthurt contrarianism.

>>213739485 (OP)
I don't care

>>213739485 (OP)
Personally I hate it, they cut down forests here just to replace them with solar panels and call it "green transition", awful. Just go nuclear

>>213739485 (OP)
I understand that it's worth investing to decrease political dependence on the resource-rich countries and for the future use on other planets and satellites.
however, the whole political movements are a bit stinky.

>>213739547
Wind and solar are "cheap" because their hidden costs are pushed onto other forms of energy production. You need spare capacity in case there is no wind or sun, which if taken to account makes renewables uncompetetive. And it gets really bad in countries that have seasons (high consumption during the winter when there's little or no sun/wind)

>>213739485 (OP)
we only have one planet so might as well make it hospitable for longer, im in south of europe anyway so my country will get heated faster than most of central or northern europe. our government absolutely doesnt care about this shit though and is full coalburning

>>213739485 (OP)
based. it creates mountain lakes thats scenic and extremely good for fishing, it creates jobs in bumfuck nowhere like where i live and it controls river flooding so one doesnt suddenly get 10meter flood waves every time it rains.
and cheap electricity obviously.

>>213739485 (OP)
1)Pooland
2)Cope, nuclear all the way

i9 will shortly invent a power source that does not rely on renewable or non-renewable energy and revolutionize the world and become a trillionaire and use it to rule the world with an iron fist

>>213739547
It's russophobic or algo

>>213739843
posted this yesterday as well, good you posted it so i didn't had to repeat myself again

>>213739485 (OP)
it's alright i guess

>>213739485 (OP)
complete meme, not bad to power minor things tho
nuclear is the future, but gay niggers don't want it

>>213739485 (OP)
it's fucking retarded

wind/solar are unreliable, you need to balance an electric grid precisely and second-by-second, solar/wind are massive problems if they make up a large proportion of your grid because their power generation is all over the place
you NEED baseload power, and for that, nothing beats coal and nuclear. Nothing beats the reliability and consistency of a massive steam turbine.
>they're cheap
it's a pack of lies. Solar plants doctor their numbers all over the place, they place negative electric price bids in the system when they have power and the rest of the time they can't provide shit. ANY claim that renewables are cheap ignores a ton of complicating factors for wind/solar, mainly to do with the unreliability and dealing with it. Running a power grid on them is NOT cheap. You are a million times better off with coal or nuclear.

also all the panels are kaput after 20 years, the chemicals in them (lots of child-slave mined heavy metals) can't be economically recycled and end up in landfill (or worse)
meanwhile a nuclear or coal plant will happily run as long as you care to maintain it

>>213739843
100% this

b-but my heckin wholesome conservacuck grifters told me that green energy doesn't make sense because china will keep using coal forever

>>213740986
coal fucking sucks tho

>>213741184
>literal cheapest most reliable power ever, most widely used
ok
i admit nuclear is cheaper in operating expense, but renewables are total garbage compared to either

>>213741184
gas is relatively clean and can get 60%+ efficiency in a combined cycle, but at the end of the day you're still burning fossil fuels, and you're dependent on other countries if you don't have the natural resources which a lot of European countries found out the hard way recently
Belgium isn't that reliable on gas because of our nuclear, but others weren't this lucky

>>213741284
I'm sure your post is organic and has nothing to do with Australia being the second biggest coal exporter in the world

>>213739485 (OP)
pretty sure solar panels aren't renewable and neither are batteries

>>213739547
wind turbines ruin the landscape
where I live they are plastered on every free spot, theres hundreds of them in all directions, meanwhile across the border in czechia its beautiful they haven't ruined their landscape with wind turbines yet

>>213739485 (OP)
>chop down all the forests to build massive solar farms and kill all the birds with wind turbines
Fucking gay and retarded. Unless you are building those solar farms in the a barren desert, then you are damaging the environment.

Nuclear is supreme.

>>213742319
>Nuclear is supreme.
correct but our boomers have been successfully conned into thinking nuclear is dangerous, its hilarious we literally built a nuclear plant and then had a plebiscite forbidding nuclear energy so we never used it, and where I live theres a czech and a slovak nuclear plant who are both closer than the austrian would have ever been

Japan is currently focusing on research and development of hydrogen power generation.

>>213742574
hydroplants suck environmentally too because they fuck up rivers, there is no better solution than nuclear, if only we had put all the funding into nuclear and invested in building nuclear power plants we could now have basically free energy without any environmental impact

>>213740986
hydro is far superior to both coal and nukes in that regard. it is the higest reactive power source, you literally just open a valve and boom gigawatts in response within a minute. i get many cant have that due to nature and geography but it pisses me off when norwegians say we shouldnt sell our electricity for cheap to uk and the continent. a dam flowing over produces nothing, why not sell it for cheap when brits turn on their tea kettle? and we import it back when their coal or nuclear plants are better to left idle at its current production than turning them down because they will be turned up again in a few hours and thats the bitch with coal and nuclear it takes hours to do so.

>>213742706
hydro is the only renewable energy source that shouldn't be instantly laughed out of the room
the only problem I have with it is that it's not so great when you have a flat country without much rainfall (see flag) and it messes with rivers
the government here tried to do a solar-hydro battery power thing, so far they built a big pipe in the middle of the forest and spent billions getting a tunnel-boring machine stuck in a mountainside

>>213741391
bitch I'm going into gold mining not coal
regardless, it's fact -- the cheapest power is a debate of nuclear vs coal, everything else loses
fun fact: we also have massive uranium reserves

>>213742248
is it true the sound fucks with your brain too? I've heard of people near them getting weird headaches and whatnot but I've never lived close to them and idk if it's real

>>213742638
Why does hydrogen fuel cause river pollution?

>>213739485 (OP)
im pretty sure cyprus has the most backward electrical generation in the EU
like behind balkan countries even, something like 60% of electricity is generated by burning oil products

>>213743105
i dont piss on wind and solar because every kwh drawn from it is less water drained from our hydropower dams but you need a reliablr source next to it. mist dams here are what we call yearly magiazines, meaning they fill up in summer and slowly drain out during winter. we got a couple of two year magazines in maybe even 3 years but thats pushing it. anything wind or solar how unreliable it might be means we can close the valves on a hydroplant and save this water for later.

>>213739485 (OP)
They're great! I think every country should only use wind and solar (except Russia)!
You should send all of your coal, gas, oil and uranium ore to us. For safekeeping, we won't even charge for it. And just in case you ever need them back for some reason, we'll sell them to you for a fair price.

>>213740986
i dont know where you get that picture from, we have the highest share of solar of the local electricity production on the entire continent.
to be fair we also rely on import for around 20% which makes the pic a bit more nounced but still

>>213739736
>Just go nuclear
Let's cool it with the antisemitic remarks

>>213739485 (OP)
Dams
>based
Windmills
>cool
Solar panels
>ugly and cringe

>>213742706
superior to coal not nuclear

>>213744946
where do you get 90% from your power from in januari?

>>213739485 (OP)
my 6.5 sqr of solar panels cut my electric bill by 2/3rds this may it cut it down by 4/5 spare change teir.

Honestly best investment i ever made.

Gimme the nukleer, I want some magic powers.

>>213747558
theres a nuclear plant that supplies around 50% of the electricity needs of the country constantly, there is oil, minimal coal, even during winter solar contributes a bit and the rest is import

>>213751612
there are supposed to be a nuclear plant expansion but they have been fucking around for like a decade now
billions of euros spent and there is nothing

>>213742574
Since natural hydrogen is relatively clean, hydrogen isn't power generation it's power storage.

>>213739485 (OP)
I am a huge proponent (combined with electric cars) because I hope that they'll cause petrostates to collapse. It's a long road, as even in countries like Norway (yes I know), with their massive electric vehicle subsidies, they need a ton of oil to cover daily needs (energy usage =/= electricity) but it's a road worth walking.

I think it's really awesome and I support it
We should have gone with nuclear 50 years ago though, fuck the Greens for fucking up our future

>>213752393
>cause petrostates to collapse.
wont happen in this century we arent getting off our fuel addiction.

>>213745918
nuclear isnt reactive in minutes the same way, you risk a chernobyl if you cant handle this sudden increase of power production.
>boron tips
yeah whatever, no one will turn a nuke plant from idle to niggawatts in a minute.
>>213752393
good luck with that but i kinda hope you succed i just know i need a new car by then.

here we just put them on the desert, so few people mind, plus they produce way more energy than in other countries due to the strong irradiation