Thread 213769649

Was it really such a terrible country as the modern sources describe it?

>>213769649 (OP)
Yes. It was never going to work. Boeroids should have made their own bantustan and declared independence if they wanted their white state so bad. Instead they kept 95% of the population in 2nd class living conditions and depended on Israel to keep them afloat.

>>213770633
>Instead they kept 95% of the population in 2nd class living conditions and depended on Israel to keep them afloat.
Hmmm what country does that remind me of again...

>>213770653
I don't know. I don't think there's a country remotely similar to it today. If you mean Israel I wouldn't say it's like it given that within Israel proper Arabs are afforded full rights and even have arab parties and are like 25% of the population. That was never the case in South Africa.

>>213770739
I'm clearly talking about your third world jew-owned shithole, you absolute troglodyte.

>>213770772
How?

>>213770739
Arabs are NOT afforded full rights in Israel, I wonder whether you are naive or just brainwashed

>>213770772
>Without Israel USA would collapse
I thought /pol/tards say it's the other way around kek so now Israel is the world's secret super power?

>>213770653
Netherlands?
>>213770633
Most of those joggers couldn't even read.

>>213770849
I said in Israel proper. Not in West Bank or Gaza. But Israeli arabs, who are like 25% of the Israeli population, are given full rights and can vote and have islamic parties in parliament. I never said that was the case in occupied territories which have been in legal/political limbo for decades. Could you really not read what I wrote? Black people weren't voting in Apartheid SA. They for sure won't voting for black power parties like Arabs can and do in ISrael.

please stop discussing Israel/Gaza in the thread about an apartheid state, okay?

>>213770845
Probably meant that 5% of Murrica has everything.

>>213770633
it's so funny how RSA was mostly ruled by Boers but still it ended up as a smaller America, with exactly the same urban planning, class divide as well as social issues
turns out Dutchies and Anglos are in fact the same people despite hating each other

>>213771047
It's just not even close to the same. Black people were only able to stay in bantustans and couldn't vote etc. I have the full rights of a US citizen.

>>213769649 (OP)
why they didn't annex Rhodesia? it was literally the same country like South Africa and Namibia and there wouldn't be such bordergore

>>213771120
LOL

>>213771250
Namibia is perfect

Yes for the most part of the population

>>213770849
Of course they are, there are even Israeli Arabs on the supreme court, one of which slconvicted a president and prime minister. Arabs even have their own party in the Knesset.

This is literally the stuff about Israel that I strongly dislike: they should be going for total mudslime destruction.

>>213770653
Bahrain? Qatar?

>oh my gosh, South Africa was like first world look this photo

Only the white minority lived well, silly. The minority u.u

>>213772673
>Only the white minority lived well,
so just like in every country?

>>213770633
>>213770739
>>213770879
>>213770937
DOGFUCKING
MENSTRUATING
KIKE

>>213772673
And how do the castizos live versus you crack-dealing favela shitting mestizo apes in your casteless egalitarian anti-racist society?

>>213769649 (OP)
it was good for the whites there and that's all that matters really. Also it only fell because race traitors in western governments put pressure on it

>>213769649 (OP)
Nah they deff make a boogyman out of it nowdays
But damn that border is fucking ugly

>>213769649 (OP)
>>213770633
Yeah, honestly moving all the Whites into the cape and kicking everyone else out into bantustans could've worked. But it'd still be a first world country surrounded by abject shitholes that sincerely belive they're rich only because they've been exploiting the rest of them, so they'd definitely move en masse looking for handouts.

>>213771193
There was only a few thousand whites in Rhodesia, meaning it would had substantially increased the proportion of Africans in the country.

>>213774146
DOGFUCKING
RAPED
KIKE

>>213770633
They couldn't have done it because the entire South African economy was unironically dependent on having the nog underclass in the mines or out in the fields for pennies a day. Weren't enough white people for that and paying them would have ruined the economics of it.

>>213769649 (OP)
Complete shit hole unless you were lucky to born white and live in a white neighborhood.
The paranoid Boer government even banned tv and when people were eventually allowed it own one it was just crime in the nightly news reports even though the media was severely censored.
And that was in the 1980's.

>>213774344
>There was only a few thousand whites in Rhodesia,
how was it any different from Namibia?

>>213775041
>it was just crime
so you mean the Boer government was right not to allow TV?
had it been not allowed you wouldn't even know about that crime and you would sleep better, singing Die Stem van Suid-Afrika

what were the boer wars even about if a few decades later you only hear about how apartheid was whites vs whites?
Did the anglos and the boers merge into one thing or was the regional distinciton kept

>>213775316
Boers just became Anglos in disguise.
By the 1980s they already preferred speaking English to Afrikaans
Meanwhile there is not a single Anglo who ever learnt Afrikaans.
Yes, Musk doesn't speak it either.

whites vs blacks* ofc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRhjbSYa1e4

>(24 Nov 1977) South African Prime Minister John Vorster speaking at a National Party rally in Pietermaritzburg, saying that South African Afrikaans and English speaking people will fight to the last man to defend their country and Christianity".

VGH the spirit of the white man...

>>213773993
Same as the divide between fennoswede brahmins and pekka dalits

>>213775165
They banned tv to prevent people from finding out what was actually happening on the country.
The irony was that they failed to hide the truth from the public even though news reports were censored.
It was an admission that Apartheid was collapsing and preparing the white population for eventual peace talks with the ANC even though Mandela was still in prison.
Local newspapers were censored but not imported pop magazines from the US and Britain which gave us a glimpse into the freedoms people were enjoying overseas.
They couldn't keep tv banned forever because the world was changing and we could sense that the country was also changing.
Some Apartheid laws were gradually repeated over time as a test case for the future.

>>213770937
would

>>213775402
They banned tv to prevent people from finding out what was actually happening on the country.
The irony was that they failed to hide the truth from the public even though news reports were censored.It was an admission that Apartheid was collapsing and preparing the white population for eventual peace talks with the ANC even though Mandela was still in prison.
Local newspapers were censored but not imported pop magazines from the US and Britain which gave us a glimpse into the freedoms people were enjoying overseas.They couldn't keep tv banned forever because the world was changing and we could sense that the country was also changing.Some Apartheid laws were gradually repealed over time as a test case for the future.

>>213769649 (OP)
No. In fact, it was leaps and bounds better than the South Africa of today

idk the bantustans seem like a cool idea exxcept you know, forcing people into them and banning them from anywhere else and being miserable poor places etc

>>213775971
>They banned tv to prevent people from finding out what was actually happening on the country.
not much was happening throughout the 1960s and 70s yet
>which gave us a glimpse into the freedoms people were enjoying overseas
what freedoms do you mean? freedom to watch naked women on TV?

i hope you will have electricity for the whole evening btw, so you can use this freedom to watch TV you acquired

>>213776198
>They banned tv to prevent people from finding out what was actually happening on the country.
>not much was happening throughout the 1960s and 70s yet
Plenty of political violence was happening in South Africa during that period. Why do think tv was banned.

>which gave us a glimpse into the freedoms people were enjoying overseas
what freedoms do you mean? freedom to watch naked women on TV?
We were reading pop magazines.

>i hope you will have electricity for the whole evening btw, so you can use this freedom to watch TV you acquired
National power cuts ended months ago.

>>213776597
>Why do think tv was banned.
Because Boers were conservative Christians and thought TV is a tool of devil to deprave people and bring moral degeneration into the country.
The political aspect of it was barely relevant.
>National power cuts ended months ago.
sooner or later they will repeat because the main problem hasn't been fixed

>>213771111
Dutch are Anglos without any of the charm
That’s why Americans, with more continental ancestry, are retarded and unfunny compared to proper anglos

>>213776682
>Because Boers were conservative Christians and thought TV is a tool of devil to deprave people and bring moral degeneration into the country.
>The political aspect of it was barely relevant.
Lol,if they really believed that drivel then why unban it?

>National power cuts ended months ago.
sooner or later they will repeat because the main problem hasn't been fixed
More power is being added to the power grid and Cape Town is getting second nuclear reactor besides the solar farms being rolled out.

>>213776910
>Lol,if they really believed that drivel then why unban it?
ongoing secularization like in every developing society
>More power is being added to the power grid
yeah bro your population keeps growing fast you won't catch up with that
you'd need great projects like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rGtCoNopc0
but it's just impossible with the current govt, they have no vision

>>213776954
>ongoing secularization like in every developing society
Then tv would have remained banned if they really believed in that philosophy and it wasn't an attempt to keep what was really happening in South Africa hidden from the public for as long as possible.

>More power is being added to the power grid
>yeah bro your population keeps growing fast you won't catch up with that
I'm sure the experts planning a new nuclear power reactor,bringing online early one the world's largest coal fired power plants and installing solar farms have taken your concerns into consideration.

>you'd need great projects like this
That hydro electric dam was built in 1977 and still most of country's population didn't have access to electricity after it's completion.

>>213770983
If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it may just be a duck.