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Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213792774 >>213792810 >>213793241 >>213797714 >>213800431
The national epic poem of Georgia is about an Indian and an Arab teaming up to slay demons and rescue a princess. Picrel is thier depiction of the Indian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Knight_in_the_Panther's_Skin
Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213792810 >>213793359
>>213792774 (OP)
Here is the Indian embracing his lover the princess who is an allegorical embodiment of Queen Tamar, the Queen of Georgia in the Medieval era in which this was wrtitten.
Anonymous United States No.213793195
saar
Anonymous Romania No.213793233 >>213793291 >>213793685
I read it and he's not indian
Anonymous India No.213793241 >>213793685
>>213792774 (OP)
>Conversely, the Indians appear to be more emotional and impulsive and cause unintended disasters
lol
Anonymous New Zealand No.213793291 >>213795066
>>213793233
>His name is Tariel, son of King Saridan, who has the seventh kingdom of India.
>Saaridan
Anonymous United States No.213793359 >>213793685
>>213792810
that picture is actually a hungarian's interpretation of a georgian's interpretation of an indian embracing an allegorical representation of the queen of georgia
Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213793685
>>213793233
Why cope

>>213793241
Kek

>>213793359
Damn, so this was a pan european thing
Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213795066
>>213793291
Hey, we already have Saarland
Anonymous India No.213797714 >>213798513
>>213792774 (OP)
Interesting.
Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213798513
>>213797714
Interdasting
Anonymous Georgia No.213799536 >>213799862 >>213801158
are you indofijian? also vepkhistkaosani is incredibly boring, i guess georgians were always prideless xenophiles who thought their own culture is cringe and unworthy or something.
Anonymous India No.213799862 >>213799931
>>213799536
I read the wikipedia and it seems like some fanfic written by a woman
Anonymous Georgia No.213799931
>>213799862
it was written by a bureaucrat/minister working under a woman (queen), spiritually a court eunuch.
Anonymous Georgia No.213800431 >>213801158
>>213792774 (OP)
It’s a medieval romance and philosophical poem about friendship, love, honor, and moral ideals, set in an exoticized version of the East (India, Arabia), but the locations are mostly fictionalized.
It’s fantasy, those locations were chosen not because Georgians thought this and that about them but because it was far away and exotic as a result.
It’s also written entirely in elaborate quatrains (shairi), full of metaphors, proverbs, and intricate rhymes. So you won’t really appreciate it unless you read it in Georgian. Hell the way it’s written many people can’t understand it and we even have to teach it in schools.
It also shows the this sort of unique mindset during medieval times, imagining a sophisticated, interconnected world.
Very unique work.
I don’t know why some shitposters think Georgians were Indiaboos or something during Georgia’s golden age when this work was written.
Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213801158 >>213802069
>>213799536
Yeah, Indo Fijian. This does seem to be mostly culturally Georgian. But if the poet set out to compose a work to honor the realm and the queen, kinda strange to make the heroes foreign.

>>213800431
Yeah, it's interesting as a work of fantasy world building no doubt. Really fascinating what every country has as its revered epic. Shairi is a thing in India too. Did it originate in Georgia?

I'm mostly just shitposting about the Indian thing. You know how this place is about Indians so it's fun to rile them up
Anonymous Georgia No.213802069 >>213802849 >>213803788 >>213803842
>>213801158
My dude this poem describes how Avtandil, a young Arabian nobleman, helps his friend to rescue an Indian princess from fucking sorcerers.
>the poet set out to compose a work to honor the realm and the queen
Did he now? Yea through various sources and traditionally he’s believed to have been a high-ranking royal official of the Queen but who really knows his reason for writing it.
>Shairi is a thing in India too. Did it originate in Georgia?
Idk tbqh I think Persians have a similar word which means poem like shir or something.
>I'm mostly just shitposting about the Indian thing. You know how this place is about Indians so it's fun to rile them up
This place is about Indians?
Anonymous Georgia No.213802849 >>213803842
>>213802069
Btw by placing noble ideals in faraway, prestigious sounding courts, Rustaveli subtly suggests that Georgia’s own court is equal or superior to these legendary realms.
Some locations didn’t have an equivalent in the real world either for example Kajeti itself is a mythic realm tied to Georgian folklore (kaji demons) and doesn’t actually exist.
His readers would interpret the characters’ chivalry, wisdom, and justice as mirroring their own kingdom’s virtues during Tamar’s reign.
To further bring up an argument the setting is not Georgia because Rustaveli didn’t need to prove Georgia’s might it was already formidable at that period. Instead, he uses a fictionalized, romantic East to tell a universal tale, while allowing Georgian readers to see themselves reflected in the nobility and virtue of distant, imagined kingdoms.
Which imo makes it all the more impressive considering this was written in like 12th century.
Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213803788
>>213802069
>This place is about Indians?
I mean it in this way:

https://hinative.com/questions/23052032

As for the setting, of course it's not set in Georgia but I think it's like how Aladdin is meant to be set in China. If you read the original story, it says its set in China but the society it describes is culturally very much like Arabia. But yeah, that lines up with what you said about the epic mirroring Georgian society and ideals of the time.
Anonymous Fiji Islands No.213803842
>>213802069
>This place is about Indians?
I mean it in this way:

https://hinative.com/questions/23052032

>>213802849
As for the setting, of course it's not set in Georgia but I think it's like how Aladdin is meant to be set in China. If you read the original story, it says its set in China but the society it describes is culturally very much like Arabia. But yeah, that lines up with what you said about the epic mirroring Georgian society and ideals of the time.