>modern economy buckbroke men so hard they cant afford a dinner date with and not being stingy about the money
in your country too?

>>213823678 (OP)
I would never pay for my gf's food because I would never date someone who can't afford things for themselves.

just find a nice tall dutch gf, you just have to pay your own dinner

>>213823678 (OP)
The last time I went on a date I covered (would feel weird not) but I ate kidney beans from the can for the next few days after that. All we did was dinner and a movie too. With this economy I might as well bend over and spreading my asscheeks—because inflation is fucking all of us into bankruptcy

>>213823678 (OP)
In the third world there's no such thing as an economy

I'm not a man with traditional expectations, but paying for dinner instead of splitting the bill is gentleman codex and a sign of etiquette, good manners and politeness

>>213824194
Paying individually also sounds extremely cheap... stingy
Regardless of whether it was a romantic date, even when eating out with a platonic friend I'd insist on paying for the meal, especially if i invited them

>>213824404
>''You're perpetuating patriarchal values by paying for dinner''
Ever heard of being friendly without expecting anything in return?

>>213823678 (OP)
>modern economy buckbroke men so hard they cant afford a dinner date
It's so much worse than not being able to afford a dinner date. We don't even have the time to actually date properly anymore. That's why dating apps have become so popular, no one has the time to go out and meet people naturally like our parents did and people have done for centuries. Finding a woman has become relegated to something you do on your phone while you're taking a shit in the office bathroom. After college no one is going out to bars anymore. Literally all of the bars in my city are college students, retired boomers, and unemployed alcoholics.
I hate to sound like a blackpill doomer, but if you don't find a suitable life partner before you graduate college your realistic options are either dying alone or setting up a Hinge profile. If you have a large social circle and/or work with people in your age group then your odds are a little bit better, but even then you risk fucking up relationships with your friends/office if things go wrong. The modern economy and the work culture it has created does not care for our well being, it just wants to wring us dry.

Yeah but thats mainly because restaurant owners, even small restaurant owners, fix prices that give them insane revenues. The motherfuckers want to retire in 12 months of work

>>213824194
I could not give a shit less man its good to be nice and polite but these stupid gentlemanliness rules went out the window when they got their rights
they can take care of it themselves now

>>213824560
The same shit is happening accross all industries. The motherfuckers selling used cars want to retire in 12 months, the landlords want to retire in 12 months, cinema owners, small entrepreneurs, etc. These retards got lobotomized by TikTok edits of rich kids living life to the fullest in Bali and are wrecking the economy in an attempt to pursuit that lifestyle. Im sure theres a biblical lesson in all of this nonsense

>>213824595
It's not about impressing women, but being a noble person, whether someone takes notice or not

>>213823678 (OP)
I can afford it. I have $10,000, so I feel rich now. I bought hot pockets yesterday.

>>213823678 (OP)
women work too, if they did accept the date then they are interested i.e. willing to spend money on me just as i am to them

>>213824658
I don't see the nobleness of it, it made sense in the past when women couldn't get high paying jobs but most women nowadays make just as much if not more money than men so the gesture seems entirely meaningless and pointless to me

Why is it always the trad alpha male larpers types who complain about men being expected to pay for dates? Isn't the point of being an alpha male to be a provider? And you you can't even pay for dinner? I can understand not wanting to be exploited by a gold digger whore who expects you to cover three figure dinner bills every night, but you shouldn't be dating women like that anyways. Just pay for the food.

>>213823810
>dutch
>paying for your food
hilarious

Fun fact: europosters are reading this thread in utter confusion because the norm in europe is for couples to split dinner 50/50 always

>>213824731
Maybe it's just my culture and the way I've been raised, but I'd feel awkward and embarrassed expecting the other person to pay for their meal
If it's a friend, switching between who gets to pay is more in line with my beliefs

>>213824194
Paypig cuck

In Serbia it's considered embarrassing and low if you don't pay for your friends whenever you are able. Paying for women is non-negotiable

>women have jobs
>I have to pay for the meal
Shan't be doing that

>going out

>>213823678 (OP)
I literally have never spent a single penny for roasties, and will never asa truecel. Why do i have to pay for them when they hate me for my existence per se?

>stingy about the money
>in mexico
mexican dinner is like $5, though I suppose most of mexico lives on less than $1/day so $5 is a week's pay

but really why would you date in mexico? go to church food is free there

Coffee dates for a first and a homecooked meal for a second or third is the frugal meta
Mothers say that their daughters can win their way to a man's heart through food, but it certainly doesn't hurt the other way around too

I will pay for her first beer and expect that she buys the next ones.

If she's willing to come over I will offer her wine and maybe cook some food and expect that she gives me access to her holes as a reward.