We don't need the USA

Why is a native holding a brazilian flag when brazil waa founded on the genocide enslavement and stealing of their land?

>>213854024
>genocide enslavement and stealing of their land
We are not the USA

>>213853966 (OP)
retard, we need them much more than they need us.
look what we export to them and what they export to us

>>213854075
We export critical minerals and cheap basic goods for their industries, while they export finished manufactured goods. So basically their industry simply cannot function without our cheap resources, while we can build from up top our industry to rival them

>>213854151
they can buy these commodities (minerals) from any shithole.
it's hilarious leftists thought we would have a "canada effect" here because of the tariffs, but everyone simply don't give a crap, and they even think that the US is right.
Lula's popularity didn't raise by 1%, as you know,.

>>213853966 (OP)

Good for you guys, every nation should have their sovereignty. Especially Brazil.

>>213854300
>they can buy these commodities (minerals) from any shithole.
No they cannot.

>>213854024
Brazilians don't remember this because they are low IQ. Brazil also ignores it's native community and rejects their pleads for aid.
>>213854321
Don't encourage him. They are sovereign. They're being little crybabies because Trump is "bullying" them. He's shoving them in a locker and stealing their lunch money I guess.

I would literally help USA to kill socialists

>>213854537
Yes, we are just like the USA we killed all of our natives and all of our races are segregated and don't mix with each other. That is why we should become an american protectorate and open our market

>>213854024
Because it's a symbol of Brazil. Brazilians do not think of themselves as a settler people. They don't think they killed the natives. They think of themselves as the natives, in a way.
They talk about the Portuguese as colonizers. When they refer to something that happened or was done during colonial times, they say "it's the fault of the Portuguese".
You see this everywhere in Latin America where people have a complete amnesia and distance themselves completely from Europeans and vaguely think of themselves as being the locals of the lands, without particularly thinking of themselves as the indigenous population. For the Brazilian, Brazil more less always existed, and one time, the Brazilians were always victims of the Portuguese colonizers. What counts as Brazilian is pretty much anything: the natives that were erased, the blacks that were enslaved, the Europeans that settled, because Brazilians are mixed and therefore imagine themselves to incarnate all of those ancestries equally.

>>213854670
Am I supposed to disagree?????

>what about indios
Didn’t happen.
They deserved it.
If it did happen (it didn’t) (they deserved it) why are there so many around?
Angl*s did way worse.
Checkmate.

>>213854537
LMAO GIGACOPE

>>213854075
yes that's why he made SEVEN HUNDRED exceptions what a joke

>>213853966 (OP)
Drop the imperial flag
It's only used by internet incels and weebs. All of them massive us cucks

>>213855083
If you aren't stupid as hell, yes
>>213855047
>You see this everywhere in Latin America where people have a complete amnesia and distance themselves completely from Europeans and vaguely think of themselves as being the locals of the lands, without particularly thinking of themselves as the indigenous population. For the Brazilian, Brazil more less always existed, and one time, the Brazilians were always victims of the Portuguese colonizers.
Nope, you are wrong. The early portuguese literally mixed with the natives, to the point of being absorbed by their culture that is the difference. Brazil is since the inception a mix of everything

>>213855458
The royal family is ok if you choose the real liberal branch instead of the cringe TFP american cocksucker one

>>213855500
Vassouras line?

>>213855557
no the other one, Petropolis line

Proof that education IS expensive in Brazil:
>>213854670
>>213855480
>This focus on pre-colonial slavery has been criticized as it flies in the face of the reality that Portuguese enslavement of Amerindians (and later Africans) was practiced at a much larger scale than prior local enslavement practices
>Soon after the arrival of the Portuguese, it became clear a commercial colonial undertaking would be difficult on such a vast continent. Indigenous slave labor was quickly turned to for agricultural workforce needs, particularly due to the labor demands of the expanding sugar industry. Due to this pressure, slaving expeditions for Native Americans became common, despite opposition from the Jesuits who had their own ways of controlling native populations through institutions like aldeias, or villages where they concentrated Indian populations for ease of conversion. As the population of coastal Native Americans dwindled due to harsh conditions, warfare, and disease, slave traders increasingly moved further inland in bandeiras, or formal slaving expeditions.

>>213855370
Cope for what?

>>213855836
Ah yes, the incredibly credible source know as wikipedia! You clearly are an intelligent human being

>>213855952
>there are no documents for this common knowledge
>wikipedia just makes shit up it doesn't take information from other places
Here monkey:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102005410
https://books.google.com/books?id=MzIrIM5XRk8C&pg=PA524
https://web.archive.org/web/20150313000755/http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/ricardo-setti/tema-livre/vergonha-ainda-maior-novas-informacoes-disponiveis-em-um-enorme-banco-de-dados-mostram-que-a-escravidao-no-brasil-foi-muito-pior-do-que-se-sabia-antes/
https://brazillab.princeton.edu/research/racialized_frontiers

>>213855480
And that's exactly what I'm talking about. What made those people Brazilian? They had nothing to do with anything we actually understand as Brazilian.
The origin of Brazil, its culture and its people come from Portuguese migration from the 17th century. I really don't see how a handful of Portuguese traders and slavers being absorbed by foreign natives would have anything to do with Brazil.

>>213855952
do you even know how wikipedia works?

>>213855880
your country has become a joke and so have you
see >>213855370

posting kuriminha on a kuruminha thread

>>213854024
Because race-mixing and cultural adoption. We are both the colonizer and the colonized, genetically, gastronomically, linguistically, culturally,

>>213855441
Post yfw Trumps excepted wood, iron AND vaseline.

>>213854151
You can't possibly think the brown masses here can do any manufacturing worth a damn
Anyhow, most of the "finished manufactured goods" come from China anyways

>>213854024
most brazilians have some native blood we didn't genocide them like the burgers did

>>213854075
>Eek ook ook!
Look if you want to suck off to right wing Americans, they'd be more impressed with you if you became more self reliant. Start producing for yourself whatever you're receiving from America.

>>213856058
there's so many sutil false premises in your discourse it's hard to pick one

Brazil has races from everywhere. I don't understand the point you're trying to make here but

>For the Brazilian, Brazil more less always existed, and one time, the Brazilians were always victims of the Portuguese colonizers.

It's been 5 centuries. People came during different times as well. You talk as if the portuguese arrived with a bunch of blacks and that's all there's to it. Hell we have the largest japanese population. Italians, greeks, slavs, germans, polish, arab, asians I've met descendants from all over the world.

>>213856041
Oh yes, incredible links you have just provided me, I am more than sure that you have read them all!
>>213856118
Yes, wikipedia is a credible academic source! I will sure use it on my PhD thesis. I mean all that you can know from all a country comes from google, wikipedia and chatgpt. You guys have all the knowledge in the world!

>>213856058
>They had nothing to do with anything we actually understand as Brazilian.
Who is we in this sentence? Why do you claim you know anything of brazilian history and culture when you can't even understand basic things that any brazilian would literally laugh at your "knowledge"

>>213856118
He keeps referring to Wikipedia as a source but it's not. It's a collection and summary of sources. I didn't even link Wikipedia as a source because that WOULD be sill but after GIVING it sources, it still rejects them out of arrogance like a petulant child.

>>213857182
>it's arrogant to basically say someone is dumb
Please, keep on using a summary made from a collection of links of a collective webpage encyclopedia as a demonstration of your knowledge about a country of 200 million people and 500 years of history against someone that has lived his entire life and studied the history and culture of this said place

>>213857115
Brain rot caused by the MEC many such cases!

>>213856980
brazilian chuds have no dignity, don't even bother

>>213857281
Yes, I would rather trust ChatGPT, Youtube and Elon Musk vast knowledge over my leftist stoner university teacher!

>>213857311
You really should
ChatGPT its more sentient than your aids ridden uni professor

>>213856706
Yes, we are just stupid. That is why Eduardo Bolsonaro is right, we should just betray our country, flee to the USA and destroy our economy to death so that we can finally accept our civilzed place under US righteous hegemony

>>213857270
Are you incapable of fundamental critical thinking? Every source everywhere says the same thing. Having a BIG POPULATION doesn't make your historical origins difficult to research or understand. BIG POPULATION doesn't erase documents from those years or invalidate their reliability. India has the largest population. It doesn't take a rocker scientist to say they were brutally colonized and enslaved by British people.

>>213857388
Yes, you are right!
It's just simple!
People were enslaved therefore it's bad, therefore they were completely genocided, therefore we are just like the USA! I mean wikipedia said so!

>>213856895
>most brazilians have some native blood we didn't genocide them like the burgers did
We mostly fucked them out of existence because America is actually a nice place for white people to live and white settlers outnumbered natives by like 100-1 within a century of first settlement.

>>213857431
Yes, the USA settlers were never racist to the natives, they racemixed! While Brazil, they genocided them all!!

>>213857426
>People were enslaved therefore it's bad
Yes?

>>213857431
you genocided most of them nigga foh

>>213857507
Yes, you are right!
We should guide facts through the current morality!
That's how scientific research works!

>>213857574
Yes.

>>213857658
Yes, everything should be permeated by the morality present at the United States of America. They are the city upon a hill. The beacon of mankind.

Everything that is good for the USA is good for all mankind

God Bless America

>>213857463
Racism is a Jew word invented by the genocidal Jewish criminal Lev Bronstein, and I reject it outright.

When I come to Brazil your women are in for a treat . I’ll bless their progeny with my white genetics. I will single-handedly save your country from barbarism.

>>213857759
Oh no, a random guy is coming to Brazil to fuck our women! I should feel insecure and anxious about this!!! OMG You cannot do that!!!

>>213857723
YES

>>213857798
not like it's happening anyway

>>213857814
Good!

>>213857574
Slavery was bad back then as well, which is why slaves were not brought to Europe.

>>213857827
Oh no it cannot happen!! How will I be able to wake up in the morning knowing someguys is fucking someone!
>>213857842
>which is why slaves were not brought to Europe.
Lmao, you don't even know what you are talking about, holy shit. Is everyone this fucking dumb here?

>>213857860
I may be wrong here, but I have never read about the African European population in the 1600s and 1700s. Care to elaborate?

>>213857842
They were. People make mistakes. That's why we learn from our mistakes and develop new forms of morality that better suit the more experienced masses. We are supposed to reject the ways of old so we can evolve. We grow and learn from our choices like burning your hand on a stove as a kid. Humans used to eat people, kidnap women on horseback for wives, and sacrifice babies. As we develop new moral philosophies, we reject old practices like those because they hurt people. The guy you're speaking to is rejecting the fundamental development of moral and ethical evolution.

Fuck everything I just want go to a war and shoot something and die. All this diplomatic talk from this bunch of cowardly old whimps is pure bs.

>>213858743
I'm listening to this on a daily basis. It gets me in a suicidal soldier mood really well. This country doesn't even value its own soldiers, so we would be dead and forgotten, but fuck me if I don't fantacize about it. It doesn't help that I am depressed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUAP-fE81zs

>>213859123
youre late

>>213854024
You know so little.