Thread 213912677

Are you allowed to beat your property to death in your country?

crazy how slavery was commonplace everywhere during all of human history then in the last 200 years everyone decided to abolish it

>>213912791
There are more slaves today than there were ever in any other time in history. Of course they are way smaller fraction of the population in comparation to other time and places in history.

>>213912677 (OP)
No, Rabbi Yeshua created huamnity in his image.
Further more doggos are le cute.

Thralls weren't slaves. They were landless workers or farmhands, basically the lowest class. They didn't have voting rights because they didn't own any property and they weren't required to go to war.

>>213912791
people became more enlightened but also slavery stopped being economically viable with the advent of certain machines.
some countries needed to be pressured into it though. particularly certain muslim countries.

>>213912791
slavery is just not efficient for skilled or even semi-skilled jobs.
>inb4 modern workplace is basically slavery
no it is not.

>>213913391
i'm pretty fucking sure a thralls were slaves. maybe not tier 0 cotton picking cattle with no rights whatsoever, but they were distinctly not free men and could be bought and sold.

>>213913391
Another retarded post by a norwegian

>>213912677 (OP)
Should I watch this

>>213913097
TRVTHNVKE
It was never formally abolished, was it? There are more forms of it than we know

>>213913465
you are pretty fucking correct
but i would choose to be a thrall over a slave down on the continent any day

>>213913894
What anime is it the stupid fucking 4chanx link doesn't work anymore it redirects to some shitty phishing site now

>>213913465
I don't think they were bought and sold. (I would like to see a stronger case for this) They had a work contract with a farmer who was responsible for their wellbeing, and they were required to work. But when people invoke slavery you get images of extreme cruelty or mistreatment. If they were slaves then modern people are mega-slaves with basically no rights.

>>213913894
>>213914219
>not knowing vinland saga

>>213914243
m8 even farmhands (dräng) up to like the 1800's could be exposed to extreme cruelty or mistreatment. the fact that vikings explicitly conducted slave raids isn't proof enough for thralls being slaves? of course they had some level of rights, they could even buy their own freedom in many cases, but it was stil slavery. greek scholar-slaves in rome often had enough authority to beat the noble children they were tutoring, being a slave doesn't have to be a fate worse than death

>>213914279
I've heard of it but never bothered to check thanks

>>213914617
Don't be fooled, it's actually mostly about farming

>>213914567
I only take issue with it because of the extreme negative connotations. If you want to define slaves as simply lower class working people with restricted rights then yeah sure whatever. Man-debt (wergild) is standard compensation for loss of life in Germanic societies, but does it mean they viewed humans as property? It feels like projection from modern people. Also where do you get the idea of exclusive slave raids from?

Has Vinland Saga become any good? Last I heard of it, it had a crossdressing viking who hated fighting

>>213912791
Slavery is dumb when you can have workers that also fuel your production by providing a consumer base

>>213914828
A slave is a thing not a person, I can treat my phone nice or I can keep dropping it, didn't change the status of the phone

>>213914828
>extreme negative connotations
that's on new world chattel slavery which is tone-setting, but thralldom is slavery
> If you want to define slaves as simply lower class working people with restricted rights then yeah sure whatever.
if you are a slave you are owned, if you are a serf you are tied to the land which is owned by someone else, thralldom encompassed both slavery and serfdom
>Man-debt (wergild) is standard compensation for loss of life in Germanic societies, but does it mean they viewed humans as property?
well no, that's a fine for murder, they're not owned

here's one article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_slave_trade
inb4 >wikipedia

>>213914906
That's the manga the show hasn't even reached yet, so far it's 2 good seasons

>>213914158
What was the difference?