Thread 213929110

My only problem with socialism was that it was ineffective in my country. It it was as efficient as it is in China, Sweden or Canada, I would be probably a die-hard socialist.

>>213929110 (OP)
It wasn't entirely efficient in China. They killed several millions of their own people with stupid ruling. And modern China isn't socialism.
But I kinda agree with you, even USSR wasn't entirely bad internally. And if they did good management, it would be much much more better.

>>213929110 (OP)
>china
>sweden
>canada
>”socialism”

>>213929110 (OP)
china is capitalism in disguise

>>213929147
In disguise? It's clear as fucking day that they're just state capitalism with Chinese charactistics at this point. CCP is just a convenient placeholder of a name

>>213929110 (OP)
Why did we waste the last the last 80 years to delay the meme ideology if this was the result? Shit, why even sent aid to Ukraine instead of duking it out with the Chinese in space while the rest of the world can do whatever the fuck it pleases

>>213929139
Public healthcare means socialism in every case

socialism is very nice

>>213929110 (OP)
>Sweden
>efficient
Lmaooo

>>213929110 (OP)
>Canada
>socialist

>>213929335
Only if it works. Unlike in countries like Belarus where it doesn't work

>>213929371
according to Marx, it would need developed capitalism first. In Belarus there's no means of production to seize.
We will have to sell the country to someone, wait until they invest, then suddenly hoist the Red Flag

>>213929557
So socialism only works if it can reap the fruits that capitalism made?, what a great ideology

>>213929641
Capitalism leads to Socialism, doe, yes.
Capitalism by itself is unsustainable, and will collapse. There are like stages of civilizational development, each succeeds the previous one so we went from feudalism to capitalism and now from capitalism are supposed to soon go to Communism. It looked like 'soon' in 19th century, but the truth is we're approaching this only know where it is more evident that it is not the revolution that will overthrow it, but exhaustion of earths resources and planetary environmental catastrophy.
Liberals and Greens in the EU trying to stall it though, which I personally do not approve. Accelerate I say

>China, Sweden or Canada
All shitholes

>>213929733
We still have finite land what exactly makes socialism and communism sustainable? It justs leads to a zeitgeist of inambition.

>>213929110 (OP)
The only good socialism is national socialism. All other variants are evil schemes (and usually just skewed liberalism with a welfare state) in which the underclasses (which disgust me), women (which disgust me), and brownoids (which disgust me) are constantly enabled and favored. Not a fan of gommunism but at least it kept the lower classes in check.