Thread 213935279

>"fuck cars"
>makes a living working from home and bicycling

How convenient.

My municipality are 100% people who either work from home or cycle to work on these contraption and literally all they do is making life worse for motorists.
They also have multiple people in the local government who's entire career is just university -> municipal council.
Parking has more than double in price within just 2 years. From €2 to €4.50/hour. They also slashed parking permits and put heavy restrictions on commercial trucks supplying businesses in the center.

>>213935371
at least it's WALKABLE though

>>213935371
Are fatbike kids a problem in your municipality or is it just an amsterdam issue?

>>213935440
All the boomers and university students can now WALK and fix plumbing around the city in their spare time!

>>213935473
There are many of them but it's not as much of a problem as elsewhere simply due to my city being significantly whiter than Amsterdam and such.
Or well it is a problem but rather the problem is three times worse in other cities.
>>213935440
It's not. Public transit is dog shit and all we have is cycling. People like my grandparents don't even come here anymore because they either get fucked by a convoluted parking system milking them dry or they are forced to use a shitty public transit system they don't understand.

>>213935473

In most big cities, I think.

>>213935371

>They also have multiple people in the local government who's entire career is just university -> municipal council.

These people are completely detached from real life and live in their left-wing bubble.

>>213935562
100% are women for left wing / D66, yes

>>213935279 (OP)
that's the problem with these "urbanists"
they dont simply want to improve your local subway
they want to rip out highways, made driving prohibitively expensive, and force everybody into apartment buildings
almost all of them are dyed in the wool leftists
and in america in particular they never talk about police and safety and pretend like it doesnt exist

>>213935558
Oh true I heard most of them are fat moroccan and turkish kids

>>213935587

>D66

They are deranged Euro federalists, even worse than PvdA/SP.

>>213935612
Dutch youth also have them, everyone with sub 100 iq has one.
But the problem they refer to are specifically immigrant youths on fatbikes causing havoc and crime.

>>213935558
Also I just remembered when I went to Amsterdam how weird it was that there was this random woman in the middle of the tram whose sole purpose was to make sure you checked your card.

How does the Netherlands compensate for the loss of tax revenue of cars?
In Sveeden the government uses cars as a piggy bank. Need money for something? Just raise the the tax on fuel a little and you have your money.

>>213935660
My guess is this was specifically for tourist in the center. Other than that you sometimes get random checks but nobody working full time in the same bus/tram/etc

yes, fuck cars and fuck car people

>>213935677
Cars are still popular as ever, just heavily taxed.
As for the future; all these economic models they use to justify these ideas have some sort of "green profit" build in where they turn the reduction in pollution into some monetary value. My guess is the politicians believe such money will actually appear

>>213935685
fuck you too

>>213935371
>put heavy restrictions on commercial trucks supplying businesses in the center
Easily the most retarded part of all that. The rest, even if it's stupid, can sort of be argued. What are they going to do when the businesses start shutting down? Assuming they haven't already.

>>213935738
My guy haven't you seen the commercials? There are electric trucks now they can just use those :)

>>213935782
maybe it'd work in lesser germany but in america there is not nearly the infrastructure, distances are too big, and the climate is rough for electric trucks in so many places
it's impossible here

I wish I were lucky enough to work from home but then I worry I'd become one of those smug, beyond insufferable assholes who loves the smell of their own farts.

>>213935685
Unexpectedly based

>>213935677
>In Sveeden the government uses cars as a piggy bank. Need money for something? Just raise the the tax on fuel a little and you have your money.
I wish Finland hadn't copied this idea from Sweden.
We still have "temporary" car taxes from fucking 1960s.

>>213935683
Nono this was at Heemstedestraat. My friends there told me they're the new tram models where they have an employee sitting in the middle. I also went to the older trams where there are elevated seats and no bitch in the middle - that was chill. The metro was expensive as hell tho

>>213935829
Its impossible here too. They just don't give a shit. I've worked for the municipality for a short time and they literally believe "the market" will adapt to all their little demands and restrictions.
If they want something they just put out a public tender and add it as a requirement. So if you want to supply pencils to their office you need to have zero emission cars, complete breakdown of your supply chain and 50% LGBTQ employees.

>>213935782
>My guy haven't you seen the commercials?
No. I don't even know if they have commercials for them here yet.
>here are electric trucks now they can just use those :)
Good luck getting a truck to drive long distances every day and wait around for a couple of hours recharging before it can make another run.

>>213935738
I don't know anything about Netherlands but they're even decorating or putting ads in all the empty store fronts now so that the cities looks less abandoned

>>213935611
they also want to ban guns on subways and buses

bikes AND cars are shit
think youre better than walking? fuck you

>>213935685
>>213935883
eat shit, poorfag

>>213935945
theyre already banned in california
youre not even supposed to have a knife
dont care about the other irrelevant states cause i dont live there

>>213935962
walk on a trail of my turds

>>213935890
Another reason added to my list of why Sweden and Finland should reunite.

>>213935929
They don't give a shit. They just demand stuff like magistrates and everyone else has to obey. They're office clerks who barely work at all and when they do it's from home or from their Italian workcation.
They don't know about charging, the electrical grid, the idea a company has more to do than just supply a single business. That's for someone else to fix. They create barriers and consider it a nice challenge for others to try and navigate them. Difference being they work 28 hours while the others work 40.

>>213935968
Richer than you

>>213936041
nah, you're poor as shit, china
>>213935974
>living in commiefornia

>>213936004
Good grief.

>>213935371
>>213935909
the career useless person i think is only going to increase
bernie has spent his entire career literally passing practically nothing and just earned his keep by raging outside of the system and he's one of the most respected men in america
>>213936058
>commiefornia
i wish california was half as leftist as people make it out to be
like in chico they blocked a bunch of apartment buildings for something as retarded that there was some critter that lived in the grass
and then the zoning laws just protect rich people
the rent control in big cities mostly just benefits people already established and public transport really isnt taken seriously
like after 9 or 10 there is not even a bus that goes from the capital of our glorious state to the fucking airpot

>>213936122
>i wish california was half as leftist as people make it out to be
what are you? a fucking faggot? This is why we need to take away california's ability to vote

>>213936122
>and he's one of the most respected men in america
bernie
respected
I'm laffin

>>213935279 (OP)
>Retard that doesn't drive has an opinion about cars
This should be punishable by firing squad

>>213936068
I doubt its much different in Australia.

>>213936203
it's superficial shit
all democrats do is talk talk talk and never actually see through projects
you would understand if you actually lived here and bothered to think a little beyond the big pride flag they wave about
>>213936229
look at public polling for once in your life?
i didnt make it up and i dont like him

>>213936268
that commie fag is hated for being an anti American gay retard and commiefornia is left wing as fuck. that's why they fuck over the taxpayers and embezzle money. platonic ideal of leftism

>>213935685
The problem with cars isn't really the tool for transportation, it's a nice way to go far away, but retarded people using it, or with an handicap and they're allowed to be on the road because muh freedom high on prescription drugs. I don't even ride on the road with a 2 wheels because of that on most busy roads, because I know someday a fucking retard monkey with a 50 IQ is gonna do something retarded and as I've seen in my country, they are everywhere. Stay safe on the road, don't speed up for no reason and keep your eyes open with your bikes.

>>213935279 (OP)
>fuck cars fuck you save the environment don't go anywhere
>oh also, the WFH part of your job is now terminated, see you in office tomorrow! :)

>>213935371
It's cheaper to buy a car than those things

>>213935782
I've seen a tv show and the guy who owns a repair shop for EVs was mocking EV vans because after 3 years battery was gone and the replacing cost was like 80% of whole van. He said it's ridiculous to get EV for business as a guy who directly profits off from EV buyers

>>213936000
Benis shape should be enough reason

>>213936261
We don't have all that shit you described above. We're still a huge polluter. Fuck this gay Earth.

Cars are estrogenic so we should minimize their use

>>213935279 (OP)
I ride my bike to work occasionally and I probably experience more horizontal displacement than he does when he rides his bike all month
Holland is a parody nation with no elevation

the less cagers the better

>>213935371
> From €2 to €4.50/hour
KWAB

>>213935371
>go to netherlands
>people pretend to be the Filntstones

>>213936000
I'm onboard as long as swedes are mandated to learn our finnic gibberish this time around.

>>213935738
Buisnesses in city centers are shutting down anyway.

I drive and I say 'fuck cars' too.

Some expats become more nationalistic than the natives.

Why are swedes such cucks? Did your matriarchal culture really just evolve further into castrating men entirely or?

>>213939148
Hello random outburst Serb

Based
Less cars on the roads means less traffic for me when I'm driving, and more beautiful nature and scenery for me to look at while cruising
Retarded poorfags will cry and claim the people using bikes, busses and trains and the poor ones while they bitch about "how expensive" it is to drive
Hell yeah its expensive as it should be
The less poor retards on my beautiful roads the better

>>213935685
based

>>213935279 (OP)
Kinda based of him to just tell his fans that if they want to live in a walkable neighborhood they should just move. Too many of these urbanists try to convince their audience to go to there local government, as if they give a shit what some faggot that watched a video thinks when everyone else are perfectly content with how their neighborhood is design.

>>213935279 (OP)
pretending to care about environment makes you more attractive to gen z girls THOUGH, just say you like walkable cities, it's also an excuse not to have an expensive car, and if you are from a rural place you always have the excuse that as a poor rural boy you must drive a car and nobody can judge you for it. TRVKE

>>213941948
not caring about the environment is inherently feminine, a man who works the environment sees the destruction his own hands have wrought. he takes only what he needs.

I bike 13km to work and then drive all day in a shitty company van so I can tell you everyone is retarded. We shouldn't feel bad for suicidal cyclists the same way jackasses on the road deserve a slow, painful death

>>213943864
How would a bus solve his 1 hour commute problem?

>>213944015
alternatives to cars allow greater housing density so she can live closer to her job
but yeah, it's long-term planning, it wouldn't fix anything instantly

>>213935371
Walkability is a means to confine people so that they can't flee when shit eventually goes down.

>>213944109
Perhaps the dumb whore should've moved to an apartment then

>>213944205
>>213944015
also busses alleviate traffic

>>213944204
when shit goes down having a running vehicle is going to make you target of opportunity #1.