Thread 213989516

why are americans so mentally ill? how is killing better than stealing? you're gonna kill someone because they stole a stupid amazon package? wtf

Thieves don't contribute to society and should fear for their lives.
If you disagree you're probably a thief or have a criminal mindset.

>>213989516 (OP)
t*rks are worse. Internet's full of turkjeets that fight/stab/kill with each other out of thin air like accidentally looking someone's eyes directly on subway

>>213989516 (OP)
if you look up court records in the wild west there where alot of homocides that where acquitted because of flimsy justifications like this

>>213989516 (OP)
Americans were bred and raised from a young age to be hyperindividualistic. They're the perfect golem for a late stage capitalist society since they can't band together based on social class. This is also why they seem so sociopathic, they're literally incapable of empathising with other humans because they fundamentally don't believe anybody who's worse off than them is the same species

>someone posted something retarded on x?
>better repost it to 4channel.org/int/

>>213989516 (OP)
>>213989663
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU SHOULD LET RETARDS STEAL YOUR MAIL NOOOOOOOOOO
why are oldworlders like this

>>213989648
>flimsy justifications

its called using deadly force to prevent a felony level crime

>>213989683
they were born and bread to be serfs

>>213989516 (OP)
Nah thieves should be hanged they make life harder for everybody else

>>213989516 (OP)
Why are turks allways defending criminals is a far better question.

>>213989516 (OP)
Old worlders are generally and culturally related to their fellow countrymen, the same can't be said for Americans who are essentially a collection of strangers and see each other as such, especially those of visually different ethnic heritage. That lack of kinsmanship lead to an harsher stance against criminals.

>>213989516 (OP)
I see this a lot here. People think immediate death is okay for a variety of small crimes.
>you come on my land me KILL YOU

>>213989516 (OP)
Stealing money out of man's hand is taking food out of his mouth. You are killing him. So you kill the thieves and con artist. Well 30% of my country supports a 32 time felon convicted of fraud who raped children see Australian 60 minutes most recently but that's our thoughts on thieves atleast. When we get scammed we want to kill the person and will support others killing them. Prison really doesn't work with most thieves and con artist. The fear of death works. It used to keep presidents and politicians in check.

>>213989516 (OP)
i agree with him t b h

reminder that you can literally steal a eurocuck’s phone, money, car, and woman and all he will do is say thank you and walk away annoyed

>>213989516 (OP)
He's right

>>213989516 (OP)
Total thief death

>>213989516 (OP)
Yes, killing thieves is holy and based.

He's right
I have not once in my life considered stealing from someone's home
There is a deep and innate defect in the sort of "person" who sees a package on a porch and thinks "I should take that"

>>213992376
Why lie, timmy? All you do is steal.

>>213989516 (OP)
He is right though.

because if you let them take a penny they'll take a pound
a thief who gets a small taste of something will just keep coming back to your porch
they'll take package after package, realize they can get away with stealing parts off your car, things left in your yard, and search your mail for bills and checks and leave you bankrupt, and if you leave them be they'll keep doing it until you show up armed or u til you move away

>>213989663
he's absolutely 100% correct albeit. people who steal parcels arent just heckin poor people just trying to get by, theyre either oppurtunists who are fundamentally incompatible with a high trust society and will never behave without the imminent threat of violence, or soulless career criminals who choose to live by inflicting misery on others.
both classes have severely lowered empathy and reasoning, so i in turn have no empathy for them

>>213989516 (OP)
True. Having one of their arm cut is enough. No need to go as far as killing.

It is not just about the inconvenience of having one package stolen, or even about the thieves most likely being repeat offenders.
It's the dissolution of trust in society and the inconvenience of never being able to leave anything around because some nigger will take it.
You can't leave shit on your yard, can't leave a bike unlocked, can't leave your phone on a table just to take a piss, can't leave a bag out of sight.
The thieves are monsters who will demand your time and effort even when not present. Removal from society is perfectly appropriate punishment for that.

>>213989516 (OP)
I exchange parts of my life to afford things, if someone steals from them they are stealing life from me

>>213989516 (OP)
Nothing wrong with that

>>213989516 (OP)
Is germany better or worse due to the presence of turks?

>>213989516 (OP)
Killing over stolen property should be completely normalized. You would understand this after working your ass off to be able to buy the things you enjoy.
It's as bad as getting cucked.

>>213989516 (OP)
they should kill the delivery guy who left it on your porch. mail and delivery is a matter or trust and legal liability. any package or letter is from it leaves the senders hands the liability of the delivery service until it reaches the recipient hands. they failed that last and very crucial part of the deal when they just tossed it on your porch and left.

>>213989516 (OP)
Americans are brainwashed capitalists. They unironically believe that private property and capital are worth more than human life.

>>213989516 (OP)
This is why europeans are so content with getting pickpocketed and robbed that they have a gypsy problem on their continent.

>>213989516 (OP)
>why are americans so mentally ill? how is killing better than stealing?
Because thieves are human shit, and killing them is a service to all mankind

I would hold them in my private basement prison for life instead, it's more humane

>>213994674
What is the value of human life? Are there no people whose value is negative?

>>213989578
Most of you people just want an excuse to kill under the guise of moral superiority.

That's putting a lot of trust in a porch camera, assuming you even have one

>>213989516 (OP)
Ethics of murder depend on specifics.
Ethics of theft also depend on specifics.
You're not thinking deeply enough.

>>213989516 (OP)
listen
if somebody stole a package containing limited edition stuff I spent thousands of dollars on
they'd WISH I would just kill them a few weeks into the activities I have in mind

>>213989663
Hyperindividualism is not predisposed to moral outcomes or to incapacity to band together.
It is not predisposed to a lack of empathy either, and empathy itself doesn't get in the way of murder. Empathy is understanding of emotions, not some select moral stance.
It is highly questionable that Americans are in fact hyper- individualistic.
True hyperindividualistic people are extremely capable, it is not in the interest of US govt skinsuit to breed people that can actually unfuck up the nation. That'd mean they won't be able to easily exploit the population, and they will be pushed out from their seats.

>>213994674
>don't you know all human life has intrinsic value

>>213989516 (OP)
Yes americans love their dragon dildo from amazon, its worth killing for they think

>>213994674
I used to value human life above everything when I had hopes for the future but now I hardly think like that. There are too many people on earth for it to be that valuable. I still agree that killing for an amazon package is insane

>>213989663
>They're the perfect golem
>because they dont identify with the ammount of material assets and productive capacities they can access (class)
Lol imagine identifying with how much shekels you can output
Class is meaningless, d
Animals posess all the same "class"
What matters is that they are effectively different (and humans also identify as different and posess different appearences) which enables strategies to unsermine each other and compete.

Humans dont exist
They are a social construct that has no meaning other tha sophistry and vibes

>>213994946
He also tried to draw a relation between americans being sociopaths and not empathetic
When sociopaths are precisely highly empathetic people that understands other people emotions and uses them to manipulate them and create psychological and social pressure.
Sociopaths are precisely a type of agresive hypersocial personality.

A lot of retards mistake empathy for simpathy,a s if understanding someone else desires and emotions was sufficient to be simpathetic to them lol

>>213989516 (OP)
He's right and you're a faggot
>>213994767
If someone steals from me it's only fair that I get to kill them, especially when they're a nigger
>>213989663
>just band together with your fellow browns and let them steal from you, together you can watch him purchase a new gucci cap with the money he got from selling your stolen goods

a genocidal murder-turk WOULD say that

>>213990630
the niggers thieves on paris fear the average american
being free is a superpower and the world needs to take after the US even if they arent technically all that freehttps://youtu.be/FkA_iKKonyw?si=mSFfp2ZfNtDefDRQ

>>213989516 (OP)
How would you stop people from stealing shit then? Not like police ever do anything anymore except fine you for minor traffic violations and babysit drug addicts and minorities.

>>213996105
Well said, kudos.

>>213989663
>late stage capitalist
commietard phrase that doesn't mean anything
get out of my country jeetsheet

>>213989516 (OP)
he's right
I fucking hate thieves
Total Thief Death
cut their arms off and use those arms as clubs to beat them to death

>>213989516 (OP)
you should be rewarded for killing thieves not just that it 'should be legal'. if someone tries to steal a package and you frag him you should be legally allowed to claim all their property and belongings.

>>213989516 (OP)
yeah
i agree

i cant tell if the posts here are bait or not someone stealing something from you is not justififaction to blow their head off with a shotgun. at least shoot them in the leg and let the police arrest them. wtf am i reading

>>213989516 (OP)
he doesnt really care about packet thiefs
he just wants to legally kill black people

>>213997429
let me help you on track
they are also brown/black
thats a valid reason alone if you ask me

>>213997489
how do you get job as that guy in pic?

>>213997429
If you create a permission structure for people to commit crime and get away with it there will be people willing to put up with it and create a subsistance out of commiting crime

This is why latin america is a crime riden shithole while wealthier and better infrastructurally than the middle east

Arabs will beat you with a stick until you say sorry or chop you a finger.
No shit their crime rate is low

You are not allowed to punish criminals on your own but law is.
It’s not PvP server that we are living in

How do you prove he tried to steal your package?

>>213997540
thats why i say shoot them in the leg. destroy someones leg, maybe both of them and get them a prison sentence. thats enough. you dont need to commit blatant murder. most people justifying this shit are just looking for an excuse to indulge in their barbaric violent cravings

>>213997567
easy to say when the law is efficient and actually does punish criminals

>>213997567
is the police gonna unrape you?
is the police gonna unkill you?
is the police gonna find your shit?
no no and no
they barely get shit done
like 20% of all criminal stuff gets picked up (perhaps more in the more violent crime)
Thats my stuff and I will defend it
simple as

>>213997594
you've never held a gun

>>213997540
This approach to combatting crime isn't without its severe drawbacks. Hard societies foster despair, inhumanity, risk lowering moral standards, and risk rotting alive at some point in the future, complete with social feedback loops of suffering.

>>213997567
It is, in fact PvP. It's just that not many are good enough to battle guilds or cash shops.

>>213997487
The Venn diagram in question is a circle

>>213997594
This isn't as solved as you think. Shooting to wound can backfire if system's fucky and criminal sues you instead.

>>213994767
yeah
maybe when youre older you will realise that killing people who dissagree with you is actually a valid response

>>213997635
Ive held and fired guns

>>213989648
there used to be a time when justice was on the side of the defender, the person not bothering anyone, rather than bending over backwards to accommodate degenerates who start shit and try to take other people's stuff

sadly we don't live in such times anymore

>>213989516 (OP)
He is entirely correct and if you disagree you are spiritually a nigger.

>>213997756
ok i agree that this dude is correct
but why are you a nigger if you disagree?
niggers are quite violent after all

>>213997567
just be the 80IQ criminal, the police and courts will do everything in their power to protect you from retaliation

>whitey knocks on your door
>shoot him in the head and put a package in his hands

free murder lol

>>213997778
>but why are you a nigger if you disagree?
because you think the nigger stealing other people's shit deserves legal protection.

>>213997796
>bro it's just an X
not for you to fucking decide how important it is because it's not yours. if you aren't prepared to die for it, don't try to take someone else's shit. simple as.

>>213997589
Doorbell camera such as ring or phone/other security camera. We see a lot of stolen packages via ring cameras alone

>>213989516 (OP)
>turkroach thread about schizophrenic nobody on Twitter no. 3759

>>213997796
>in the amazon package was a 3k+€ sexdoll
totally viable option
>>213997801
actually we could kill jeets muzzies and blacks like this
after all those are the ubers/....

>>213997801
post hand.

>>213997877
>in the amazon package was a 3k+€ sexdoll
it doesn't matter if it's 3000 eur or 0.03 eur, it's fucking MINE, I invested time from my finite lifespan into getting it, and I made plans around having it.

what gives you any right to take it?

>>213994767
how is this wrong?

>>213997849
I wouldn't put my life in the hands of a cheap doorbell camera just to protect a package. It sounds much better to just implement the death penalty for all crimes

>>213994767
there is no guise of moral superiority here, just moral superiority. I don't go out of my way to fuck with people but people like you who do that get protected. disgusting.

>>213997902
>if he is brown an knocks on the door
totally viable option
>steals my stuff
we are agreeing on this
but i would like to emphasize on the fact that for me its just an excuse to blow up minorities

>>213997923
>death penalty for all crimes
at that point my thing is already gone and my time is already wasted, I don't care. but if you are free to use any means necessary to take things from me, why am I not free to use any means necessary to stop you?

>>213997967
Who's stopping you?

>>213990460
>The same can't be said for Americans who are essentially a collection of strangers and see each other as such

You must be a VPN HIVan.


OK “American”, back to basics...

Why did the “ancestor parents”, of every US American, moved to the Americas? Regardless, willingly OR unwillingly?
A new identity, a new ethnofolkloric culture – willingly AND unwillingly – because their “old parents” got murdered, or banished by the [local] nobilities & monarchies of their “old parents”, or dying to survive in spite of the [local] nobilities & monarchies.

Each and every “ancestor parent” American, of yours, was a functional (civilizational) orphan.
What are orphans doing to survive?
Band together.
They don't, they die.
Simple as.
The fatigueness forms from the constant renewals & cycles of new orphans. Old orphans become entrenched, and groupings seed are established.

The “melting pot” slogan is nothing more than a self-destructive quip.
Sure, always be vigilant against infiltrations (the most successful ones are imperceptible) and impulses associated with the “old” dead.


>especially those of visually different ethnic heritage.

There's metagroupings and substratums.

What is worse & damaging: metagroupings intermingling (yMxF) or substratums (ethnics, nationalities) falling for baseless romanticisms associated with the “pre-orphanhood” of the “ancestor parents” that risks the erosion of the fundamental seedlings that banded those orphans in the first place?

>That lack of kinsmanship lead to an harsher stance against criminals.

Justifying distrust is the lack of kinsmanship, not the lack of kinship making apologia for distrust.
>inb4 Drop the VPN HIVan

>>213997935
>there is no guise of moral superiority here, just moral superiority
That's not how morality works, Anon-kun. It's not a competition, such comparisons are based on incorrect or questionable values. Principles are not superior to their lack, much like law isn't superior to lawlessness. They're simply different approaches to an X.

>>213998169
>because their “old parents” got murdered, or banished by the [local] nobilities & monarchies of their “old parents”, or dying to survive in spite of the [local] nobilities & monarchies.
Or there was an economic interest behind all these, sufficiently capable to orchestrate everything.
But that's just an irrelevant tangent.

>>213997641
Permissiveness does the same.
You just have a infrastrucure specifically directed at running cover for it.
Crime is always a direct function of policing

You think blacks are criminal? Pull up how much crime they commited when they were enslaved by whites.
Likely near none
Because the drawbacks of crime were much higher than the gain.
We are animals and the more we are the more qe are subjected to probabilistic.
Reality tends to elucidate relatively basic patterns on large scale.
The more sophisticated ones are always as result of variation, which is lesser in larger scales.
There is predatory, parasitic, autotrophic, etc patterns practiced by populations
If there is a niche, dont doubt there will be someone willing to fill it up.
You need to erradicate the niche and make of it a slaugtherhouse

By Allah cut their hands!

>>213998327
Of-course.
>Pull up how much crime they commited when they were enslaved by whites.
Non-criminality doesn't mean there aren't any feelings in the air, though, as social configurations can lead to iteratitve dissatisfaction, but that too is a policy problem just like you have said. I recall there were some complaints about economics of black strikebreakers and other sorts of undercutting competition in US centuries ago, but that's probably not a good example.
>Because the drawbacks of crime were much higher than the gain.
This is where the crime combat problem lies, exactly with...
>Reality tends to elucidate relatively basic patterns on large scale.
...as an amplifier.
If a society operates on such transactive "pros vs cons" mental permission of certain actions based on response to punitive measures, it already is weak to crime because in place of deeper understanding, ideals and/or adequate reasoning it is at least partially has chosen certain tactics as acceptable but non-viable.
To combat crime one must approach it systemically. A slaughterhouse may disabuse the notions, but it doesn't affect interest, bar special situations or extremely unjust amount of most terrible slaughter.

>use an ad blocker
>youtube jews are legally allowed to come at your house and kill you
>this is a perfect world for americans

>>213997807
>>213997833
Who prevents me then to decide which crimes deserve lynching?
People using a car pollute my air and have a bigger chance to kill my kids then pedestrians, should I kill them on the spot top?
Someone crossed the line at the supermarket, costing me time therefore money too, can I slowly make him bleed in my basement?

It's more like: the kind of person that goes around pilfering people's Amazon packages isn't fit to live. Simple evolutionary logic. This person is perverting and poisoning our society and gene pool and their line of thinking leads to a lifetime of malfeasance and victimizing others.

My property is more important than your life and I can enforce this with my gun. I am always armed and if you are past my gate without my permission I'll probably shoot you. My state, Kentucky, allows me to do this.

>>214001337

You aren't describing crimes and you aren't clever. Everybody knows what we're talking about. You're a whiny fag who couldn't lay a finger on a person anyway, I have no clue why leftists even participate in talks like they have the least bit of agency or physical ability, you would get on your knees immediately if some coon came by and asked for you wallet

>>214001337
>People using a car pollute my air and have a bigger chance to kill my kids then pedestrians, should I kill them on the spot top?
Driving is not a crime and I'd shoot people if they stole my car.
>Someone crossed the line at the supermarket, costing me time therefore money too, can I slowly make him bleed in my basement?
I've seen people run over for cutting lines at gas stations.

>>214001446
I'm literally top 1% in strength and stamina, have white kids who eat the shit I grow in my own garden. I've spent years bumming in the 3rd world and have seen people die.
What I don't want is giving youtube jews the right to kill me because I use an ad blocker, or trannies the right to kill me in 20 years because my government decided it was a crime.

Some inbred mutt thinks stealing is "the crime" and everyone else should think the same but it's not the case.
I personally hate car drivers way more than stealers for example.

>>213989516 (OP)
The threat of death raises the stakes for potential thieves, possibly discouraging edge cases. Those who would risk their lives for someone else's property doesn't really need to live, by their own assessment.