Thread 214002177

If you don’t, would you like to learn?

>>214002177 (OP)
I’ve thought about learning it but get the feeling it’s something I’d give up on after playing like shit for months

>>214002177 (OP)
I quit playing music after the band kids bullied me

>>214002177 (OP)
Never even seen one in person

>>214002177 (OP)
I did briefly as a child, but switched to violin. In all aspects except physical, I am European.

i play it quite badly, too lazy to practice these days

>>214002177 (OP)
had an electric piano when i was a kid but never learned to play anything
i think I'm too retarded for it

I'd like to learn piano but i'm getting a job that requires me to travel a lot, so instead i'm thinking of getting guitar instead :/

>>214002556
You can do it. Make Béla Bartók proud.

>>214002506
What did you play in band?

>>214002506
>getting bullied by band kids
Anon, I...
>>214002696
Guitar will be a pain to lug around airports too. I'm sorry but your best option may be some shit like clarinet

no, I have incel hands

>>214002177 (OP)
I'm learning right now. I'm a total shitter though.

>>214003603
Piano hand size is a meme. Small hands only locks you out of like, 2% of the piano repertoire. And very few people even make it to the level where it starts to matter in the first place. It basically only matters for people intending on becoming classical pianists.

>>214003641
Chopin says you can.

>>214002177 (OP)
I play the guitar

>>214003676
That's not entirely true. There are styles of pop piano that heavily use tenths in the base. Even if you can stretch to reach them or you can break them (playing the notes one after the other instead of in unison), smaller hands will struggle to play successive tenths in fast tempos.

>>214002177 (OP)
I play piano professionally. I have students too.
>>214002522
Really?

>>214003676
Even in classical it's not a deal breaker. Vladimir Ashkenazy seems to have small hands

>>214004545
>there are styles of pop piano that heavily use tenths in the base
Which ones?

>>214002177 (OP)
Yes, just bought an electric guitar yesterday for my music, i have an acoustic guitar and a bass already, next instrument will be a keyboard

I played some electric guitar before, so my left hand has some practice, but it's so annoying how quickly my right hand; the pinky especially, get tired. It's getting in the way of my practice, because I want to play more, but I just can't, because the right hand pinky loses strength and precision.

>>214005667
What songs are you learning?

>>214006209
on piano? there's many by the beach boys i want to learn

>>214002177 (OP)
I would like to but pianos and keyboards are too expensive in my country.

>>214002177 (OP)
i want to buy a Rhodes

>>214007650
How much do they cost? Are there used pianos for sale?

>>214002177 (OP)
I started learning in March, and I can't really play anything good.

>>214008604
What can you play and what are you learning currently?

Yes, I play piano and I love it. I'm 31 and only started playing 10 years ago so I was never going to be as good as someone that started out at 5 or some shit, but I don't care. I enjoy playing so much.

>>214008655
>What can you play
Gnosienne no 1 by Satie. Some short shitty songs I don't even remember. Fantasia 5 in d-moll by Hendel (however I play it bad, because I play it like a robot).
Now I'm trying to learn Invention no 9 and Invention no 13 by Bach. The teacher I started to go to tells me that I'm stupid with such choices to play, because children play Bach's Inventions after 6 years of music school.

>>214002177 (OP)
The piano is for faggots.
Real men play the harpsichord while wearing a powdered wig and and a Justaucorps with frills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LiYRhNWZds

>>214008739
>so I was never going to be as good as someone that started out at 5
Come now, Ryo Fukui only started at 22. You can absolutely become a fantastic player regardless of when you start, you've got your whole life ahead of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Bv8WsV-0g
>>214008766
>The teacher I started to go to tells me that I'm stupid with such choices to play, because children play Bach's Inventions after 6 years of music school
Kek, I get that, I also find myself always trying to learn things that are obviously too hard for me, simply because I the pieces. It's probably bad practice if you want to improve steadily, but I can't help it.

>>214002177 (OP)
I play any musical instruments I pick up for 3 hours.
It's some weird thing with me. It's just memorization of key placements and chords which the longest took for a cellos got 2 hours then an hour to figure out it's "soul" then I'm off.

>>214008850
I really like harpsichord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcsfDxojdV8

I have an electric one next to me right now but I can only really play songs with one hand and just the melody, too hard to do both hands at the same time for me, it's over

>>214008880
Yeah I mean of course I strive to get better and always appreciate hearing and measuring my own progress, but I've just accepted I'm not as naturally gifted as other "proper" pianists. I just play for fun and personal fulfillment.

Here's a short compilation I made about 2 years ago of even older videos I recorded in 2018 of pieces I had learned that year, I didn't even have a pedal back then and the sound quality is shit lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeogXUMVCAQ

>>214008739
Senior, do you have any tips on how to play with both hands?

>>214009270
Very nice! Do you write your own music, too? Or play in a band or something?

>>214009260
Imo you ought to try playing things very, very slowly. Start with pieces where the two hands work together in the same rhythm. Like Petzold's Menuet 114, Bach's Praeludium 1 or the Moonlight Sonata,

>>214009327
Well, I guess the best advice I can give you is to stop thinking of your hands as two autonomous and independent beings. Think of them as a single entity, divided in two. They complement each other. So instead of being self defeatist from the start and thinking "how hard it is to make separate motions with each hand", think of it as building blocks, one hand lays the cement and the other puts the bricks.
As such, when you hit a note with your right hand it simply means its the left one's turn to hit the one it's supposed to, and then the next one and so on, and the product is a beautiful piece instead of a simple melody.

I think the biggest obstacle for you is to stop thinking of this as being too hard. It's simply a puzzle to be solved, and once solved it gets easier from there.

I'm not a professional so I can't give you any theory or advanced methodology, but what I can suggest is this: get a midi viewing software like Synthesia, download the midi files of a couple simple nice songs that you wanna learn, and play them there. It gives you an overview of the notes played with each hand, instead of reading sheet music. Then you simply replicate what you see. Then I'd suggest chipping away at the song little by little, say 10 seconds at a time. Do it over and over again, until you get some fluency, and then proceed to the next part of the song.Then you can challenge yourself with a faster pace, or more complex rhythms.

>>214009763
>Do you write your own music, too? Or play in a band or something?
Not really lol, I'm an automaton playing the songs I like. I have produced a couple of simple original pieces but they're far from being complete.

>>214002177 (OP)
I've got a Roland synth I mess around on, I would never claim to play keyboard properly though as I don't really know songs. I'm not bad at it though.

>>214002177 (OP)
Not really, wouldn't mind being more skilled at it.

>>214010357
>get a midi viewing software like Synthesia, download the midi files of a couple simple nice songs that you wanna learn, and play them there. It gives you an overview of the notes played with each hand, instead of reading sheet music. Then you simply replicate what you see. Then I'd suggest chipping away at the song little by little, say 10 seconds at a time. Do it over and over again, until you get some fluency, and then proceed to the next part of the song.Then you can challenge yourself with a faster pace, or more complex rhythms.
Horrible advice, sheet music is so much easier to work with despite it taking more effort from the start.

>always been told by older women that i have piano playing fingers
>mfw it’s not a compliment and they just underhandedly mocked me for my slim girly fingers
Cunts

>>214002177 (OP)
I did in college but then I fucked up my hands with computer use

>>214010744
Tendinitis? Carpal tunnel syndrome?

>>214010517
I disagree. Easier for you maybe, I'm just sharing what worked for me.

>>214002177 (OP)
Yes but not as much as I used to. I moved to a college town and don't have anyone my age to play with

>>214010800
>don't have anyone my age to play with
Hmm? Why would you need anyone to play piano with?

>>214010774
carpal tunnel and cubital tunnel

>>214010796
It really is the best system, no other system exists that as easily enables transposition, modulation, easily legible melodic contours and human readable rhythm. Like, you are genuinely really shooting yourself in the foot long-term if you don't take the few hours it takes to learn how to parse sheet music.

>>214002177 (OP)
No, but I wish I could. Don't have the money for a piano/keyboard. Even if I did I feel like I wouldn't have the patience to learn. Wish I learned to play it as a child when my parents still lived together and had a piano.

>>214011098
>Don't have the money for a piano/keyboard
You can get a decent digital piano with weighted keys and everything for like 5000 SEK.
>Even if I did I feel like I wouldn't have the patience to learn
Consistency is key, if you can manage like just 10 minutes a day at first you can make a lot of progress.

i play, in a cover band as well but it's hard to play with both hands simultaneously so i usually just hammer the root note with my left hand and play chords and fills and sometimes a solo with my right hand, but since we have a bass player i don't really have to do much with my left hand

>>214011195
Perhaps I'll get one some day, but I don't really have the space for one now anyways. I'd just use it to play vidya soundtracks

>>214011288
>usually just hammer the root note with my left hand
Don't do this unless playing solo. Practice common chords in all inversions in all keys to improve, and consider tighter voicings.
>>214011327
Something like this doesn't exactly take much space and is 3799 SEK on Thomann.

>>214011500
i know chord inversion and chord extensions, i use them all the time but i rarely play full chords with my left hand. but i do play some boogie-woogie basslines sometimes, depending on the song. guitar is my main instrument and i just play keyboard sometimes to fill out the sound in the band, but i am slowly improving

>>214010861
Repetitive strain injuries are very common among professional pianists. Basically every pianist I know over 25 has a story about them. I had a tendinitis scare at one point. It's worth looking for a teacher who knows about that sort of thing.

>>214011630
Just try tighter voicings then to not crowd the sonic space of the bass/guitars, listen to how jazz pianists play.

>>214011789
i do that, and i remove a lot of bass frequencies from the piano on the mixing table so it's not a big problem. i'm thinking of getting a separate speaker for the piano, know any good ones?

>>214011931
No idea, piano isn't my main instrument either and I largely play acoustic music. I figure just any stage monitor would do a decent job.

>>214012027
>largely play acoustic music.
like fingerpicking folk stuff?

>>214012140
Classical and jazz, but I've dabbled in various folk styles too.

>>214010635
>always been told by older women that i have piano playing fingers
I had some girls, not older women, saying this to me. Because my fingers are thin and long. And now I'm learning piano.

>>214012758
How good are you at it now?

>>214013546
See this >>214008604 >>214008766

>>214010842
Because I'm not into playing classical music and noodling jazz lines by yourself gets pretty boring after awhile.

>>214013618
Keep at it bro

>>214014559
What are you into then?