Thread 214024723

No offense but are Europeans retarded?
They're extremely, EXTREMELY racist to middle eastern people and they're sick in their hearts with hatred for them to a profound degree, especially hate them for their browness.
Yet right after being done insulting middle easterns for their browness they turn and worship Jesus Christ who is a middle eastern man with jet black wavy hair, big brown eyes, big brownish red lips, and brown skin, who never spoke a European language, certainly not latin but instead Aramaic which is a cousin of the Arabic language.
Shouldn't have abandoned your Greco-roman gods... Really shouldn't have abandoned them.
So what's it gonna be, are you gonna purify your hearts or racism or will you choose atheism?

>>214024723 (OP)
Jesus was a Greek though

>>214024723 (OP)

Most racism towards middle easterns is based off of islam and rightfully so. I have never seen anyone be racist towards Christian/Atheist Middle easterners unless they are super racists

Maybe stop doing this

>>214024723 (OP)
Jesus was from Britain and spoke English

>>214024743
... Racism implies race, religion is not a race. :p

Jesus was Jewish.
Europeans usually tolerate Jews more than arabs

maybe stop committing crimes, nafris are criminals who cause nothing but chaos, if you were a quiet minority no one would give a fuck. Look at vietamese and filipinos in europe, no one hates them, they rarely commit crime and they just keep quiet

>>214024723 (OP)
>Yet right after being done insulting middle easterns for their browness they turn and worship Jesus Christ who is a middle eastern man with jet black wavy hair,
You sure you didn't totally mix up your eras and polities? Comparing modern times to Arab Invasion times, or Roman Empire times, or pre-Roman Empire times is outright silly.
Come on, you're irrational.

>>214024760
But racism towards middle easterners is on the basis of them being muslim. The same way Americans are extremely racist towards black americans, but not africans usually.

>>214024743
You want me to believe the first thing they pick on isn't their brown skin and even after having confirmed they're christian European whites will equate brown christian middle easterners to their own white christians?... Lol, lmao even.
You're don't do that with mexers who are more zealous about Christianity than you.

>>214024760
Racism is a modern thing, as is a focus on race category. Ethnic-specific dislike was more prevalent, and it was prevalent among everyone, not just Europeans, whom hated each others too.
It'd be silly to think Arabs get along swimmingly even under Islam.

>>214024773
Bruh For centuries they kicked most of them out of western Europe and to north Africa and Eastern Europe.
It's only post WW2 they started treating Jews like human beings BUT ONLY TO FURTHER THEIR COLONIAL AMBITIONS!!!

>So what's it gonna be, are you gonna purify your hearts or racism or will you choose atheism?


The world's demographics have been weaponized against Europe since the 1960s. A plan is in motion.

>>214024773
Modern day jews have zero relation with biblical jews. He's more similar to a palestinian or lebanese person

>>214024819
You're very optimistic about Jews. Watch American Krogan videos about Visigoths and Jews, 7 or so videos. It's okay, but it has some research, enough to get the idea.
Semites themselves aren't nice, bar those that are. That's how humans are, some are just, others are not.
Europeans are not innocent, neither is everyone else. Only innocent people are innocent, no matter the ethnicity.

>>214024837
>1960s
Earlier.

>>214024837
Nobody wants to go to fucking Romenia.
Not even jeets and nigerians

>>214024819
>>214024773
In the 19th and 20th century they started calling them semites to associate them with the Arabs, the eternal hated enemy of the christian European, who commiting the most heinous crimes against is justifiable to denounce Jews as European and to scapegoat them as enemies of European despite the vast, vast, VAST majority of them being just as poor and powerless as everyone else. Christians and Jews historically never saw eye to eye.
It's why Jews aren't permitted by their own law to enter a church under any circumstances but they may enter mosques, it's why they can't pray among christians no matter what but can pray among Muslims so long as they direct their prayer to Yahweh.

>>214024842
This, Jews lived in Europe for 2 Milleniums, there's essentially nothin eastern about them today.

>>214024859
Yours are the authors, respectively prime enablers.

>>214024845
>You're very optimistic about Jews.
I try my best not to let irrational blind hatred cloud my eyes.

>>214024881
Jews aren't European. European Jews are European. Babylonians aren't even native to Babylon, they just took the city in the olden days.
Christians have battled religious Jewry not just because they're a competing religious sect, but also because they had their own crimes to match, both in regards to conversion, and perpetual problem of conflicts between ruling and merchant classes, as wealth and economic power ruin court dynamics.
You must never look at such conflicts at surface level.

>>214024845
>Only innocent people are innocent, no matter the ethnicity.

ruzzians aren't innocent.
None of them.

>>214024810
>It'd be silly to think Arabs get along swimmingly even under Islam.
No Arab hates another because of appearance or difference in culture or dialect of Arabic, it's a clash of geopolitical ambitions, it's not flued by pure undiluted xenophobia.

>>214024723 (OP)
I'm a Jew from Iraq and I look fairly white o algo

>>214024917
That is reasonable, but you must not forget that the nature of evil is complex, its types are many, and much like there is blind hatred, there can be irrational avoidance of confrontations and wilful ignorance.
Both in assessing factual events, assessing their abstracts, and assessing possibility of their artificial nature, or exploitation.
Hate is an easy tool to manipulate others with, the more legitimate it is, the harder it is for participants to disengage. Wherever there is power, there shall be such problems, and in Abrahamic faith world those issues are non-stop, even now.

>>214024940
What a shit world we live in, it's things like these that make me lose hope for humanity.
I don't think the cycle of hatred will ever be broken. What a miserable thing it is to be a conscious human being with a beating heart living in a world characterized with injustice and evil.

>>214024955
That likely can be challenged, but I met very few Arabs in my life, so I can't speak on their situation.
Either way, that can easily be interpreted as successful unification result, and its price, i.e. Arabic world was unified with Islam, so preceding conflicts have vanished, but the price is decrease in individual humanity, in imagination, and in ethnic agency, much like standardatization of art, though may bring about great art sphere (e.g. Renaissance), also kills individual talents.
As a result, what Arabs gained in strength and pan-Arabic world, they've lost in strength and sheer potential also, at the same time becoming easier to manipulate.

>>214024992
>Abrahamic faith world those issues are non-stop, even now.
Because they are exclusionary, they liable anyone who isn't a follower of their particular sect a child of darkness, no ideology is better at othering human beings and justifying hurting innocents that abrahamic religions, their core philosophy is "he who is not with me is against me." They seek to tear down and destroy anyone who is different for Celtic and Slavic pagans it was by the tip of a sword, for Africans and latin Americans it was the barrel of a gun.
To them rape, murder, pillaging, war mongering, crimes against humanity are all permissable if to spread the faith.

>>214024723 (OP)
protip in usa you are white but spain isn't

>>214024723 (OP)
You are being anachronic; 99% of the reason europeans hate Jews and Muslims with a passion is because they were Christians for centuries. Otherwise these 2 abrahamic groups would just be foreign like the Druze or whatever.
And they didnt hate Arabs or middle eastern when Christianity became popular.

>>214024992
>Hate is an easy tool to manipulate others with, the more legitimate it is, the harder it is for participants to disengage. Wherever there is power, there shall be such problems, and in Abrahamic faith world those issues are non-stop, even now.


That's very rich coming from your lot, of all people on this planet, making moral grandstandings online, irl, in writing or verbal.

KGB-GRU securocrats intentionally agitating fanaticism & baseless fury, disinforming with conspiracy theories, arming the MENA & chokepoints to stress logistics and asymmetric keypoints, helping bits & segments of the 'ideological enemies' that could add a multiplier factor to the aforementioned... very rich coming from your lot with that patibular moral grandstand.

>>214025047
Don't worry, after the fall of the ottoman empire there's never again any hope of peaceful unification, at best we're a free trade block of our own, in our modern day each Arab country does what it likes for the most part, Algeria with socialism, Tunisia with modernity and democracy, Morocco with a constitutional monarchy, Saudi Arabia with recent venture in modernity yet a Classic monarchial rule ETC.

>>214024999
You don't need to worry about it that much, don't lose hope, the world isn't inherently evil.
It can be broken with surprising ease, partly because it's not a thing that exists in all instances of hatred-full situations, logistically or otherwise, and partially because you battle sinners.
You just need true bravery, true heroism, much smarts, much wisdom, some military equipment, and "a particular set of skills".
In short, to battle social injustice, an entity with complexity in all areas of life, you need to approach it systemically, with all areas of life, with a qualitative effort, and Daijuji Kurou amounts of sheer bravery to fight evil endlessly in totally hopeless scenarios.
Battle corruption by taking corruption into your hands, do not associate the abstract forces of darkness and destruction with sin (as that cedes initiative to sinners), beat the evildoers at their own game and make them bleed at every step of the Earth, beat them intellectually, beat them in military, beat them in economics.
At each step and every corner one must fight back.
The only way to battle despair is to be the kind of man who can stare at evil unflinchingly, and past whose back no evil may pass.

>>214025141
No westie throughout the course of history has ever had one correct idea about orientals whatsoever, from the time of the roman empire until modern day.

Romans thought easterners were effeminate for their use of perfume, washing with soap and sleeping under mosquito nets, of course this was what they fooled themselves into thinking because it was convenient for them to rile up the sentiment people in the middle eastern are weak degenerate barbarians so that they could, as self proclaimed spreaders of democracy and civilization, go to war with these eastern kings to steal all their wealth and get control over their territory for taxation. That's antiquity done with.

In the middle ages western christian theologians spread the idea that Muslims are pagan idol worshipers so crusades against them and enslaving them is justice.
Of course this is a pure invention since Islam is an abrahamic religion where you may find many, MANY verses from the bible existing in the coran word for word and let's not also forget that Jesus Christ is a holy figure in Islam too and included in their worship and Muslims unironically believe that he is the messiah that'll save us in the end times from the antichrist, and when you think about it Islam is like Arian Christianity with an extra prophet.
Westerners Lied however to justify going on crusades against muslims for control of the silk road. That's the middle ages fine with.

Now we go to the modern era, which includes the colonial era and modern day where middle easterns are framed internationally by western media as pure evil savage uncivilized barbarian terrorists who are unworthy of life and they should all be killed and eradicated with extreme prejudice without any regard for international law, human rights, morality, decency. To steal and appropriate their natural resources, mainly fossil fuels.

>>214025168
>>214025141
This is the only framework they ever see us through and ever saw us through for millenniums, us being an inherent inferior and them having a divine right to kill us to appropriate and steal what we have. As long as we sit on a valuable resources they will never ever quench their thirst from our blood.
The hatred can never be broken so long as the European heart is sick with greed.

>>214024723 (OP)
Europeans were psyop'd by Jews to believe in the white Jesus myth from the start

>>214025168
Christian theologians never accused Muslims of polytheism but of blasphemy. Christianity isnt a religion where Jesus is just regarded as a prophet. So denying his divinity is blasphemy in Christianity. The common people thought Muslims were polytheists due to ignorance. By 2001 there were americans completely clueless that thought Islam was a religion with Arabic gods completely different from the Bibles story. Imagine in the middle ages

>>214025098
My lot is ME, Romanian. I speak for myself and have no allegiances to anyone bar ME. I Complaining about operational methods of military intelligence is ridiculous for anyone, especially someone who owes plenty to the Țepeș, a man who both understood practical value of psych warfare, and actually cared about his own population, unlike some of his elites.
And it is especially foolish to look at centuries to millenia transmigratory polities and assume singular intention. You wouldn't blame one tsar or boyar for actions of successors solely just because they did an X, would you? Or one Pope and another with a ~500 year gap.
Well, perhaps you personally would, but that is still an unreasonable take bar specifics.
A human take, personal, invested, that makes at least better than no take, but it is still imprecise, and easily exploitable.

>>214025141
Dear Russian, the only way I can see the cycle of hatred being broken and the world restored to an era of peace is if all countries fucked off entirely from the affairs of all other countries and left them be, no trade, no communication, no migration, no wars, no politics, no influence, no alliances, no nothing, everyone closes in on themselves and no one drops this isolation for no reason forever.
Then we'd have world peace and world happiness and prosperity, we can't trust each other (especially , especially, especially, especially white people) to treat one another with human decency, fairness, justice, love, equality, and benevolence.
All countries should be stripped of nuclear weapons and missiles and instead should be given to an entity that enforces this world isolation and punishes offender countries with disappearance, that is the only our planet will ever know freedom from hatred and evil and injustice.

>>214025199
Assuming he is the Joshua from Nazareth. He'd probably loo kkind of like a modern day Greek with migration patterns.
He would have a nearly shaved head and a shaved face no beard. The fashion/custom in the region would be that and somewhat strict.

Best example poe dameron or Oscar isaacs

>>214024723 (OP)
In the 2000's War on terror era I always found it funny how white supremacists worship a man who's second language was Aramaic a language only understood and spoken by brown people in MENA.

>>214024723 (OP)
experience with your people

>>214025168
>No westie
Personally I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and say that not all Westerners are that bad, but it'd be a lie to say that they understood properly, whether the errors were under their own purview or due to political or any other narratives that seen fit to optimize certain stances in population.
>Romans
Huh, learn new stuff every day. I thought Romans used perfume too? At least I heard so, even Caesar had his own perfume.
>democracy
A classic blast from the past, but seeing as Old Oligarch Pseudo-Xenophont pamphlet exists, I'd think it's safe to say there were detractors.
>In the middle ages
Such approaches are dishonorable, and unchivalrous, but not unexpected. Political and religious elites do need to somehow work out zeal in population. Whether their interests had legitimately important geopolitical concerns for the people, or the aforementioned by you greed, I don't know. Best to err on the side of caution.
Arian Christianity? Intriguing, what's that?
>Westerners Lied however to justify going on crusades against muslims for control of the silk road. That's the middle ages fine with.
To be fair there are likely arguments can be made, of any sort, by all sides at that time. Such mega project likely had negative effects on some areas of life, such as, I suppose, increase in slave trade. As massive trade gives rise to economic power houses, it's not improbable that some ended up in red, up to the point that military action became unavoidable.
But I'm a historylet, what do I know.

>>214025312
Because he was not a muslim. Christian and atheist muslims in that era were seen as noble savages/diamonds in the rough from that region of the world

>>214025460
>atheist muslims
Imagine being illiterate in your own first language

>>214024723 (OP)
I'm sorry are you retarded? You are a brown beast and no white person worships christianity anymore. That's a brown and black religion now

>>214024723 (OP)
Nigga the oldest painted pictures of Jesus in the catacombs under Rome painted him as brown haired blur eyed man with a beard.

Also it's not true that Jesus did not speak a European language. He preached the Greeks living in Decapolis in thr Levant which were filled with Greek colonists so he definetly spoke Greek. Also, since Israel during that time was also a Roman province he also most likely spoke Latin too. Jesus would be at least quadro lingual fluent in Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, as was a normal phenomenon in Roman Occupied Israel.

>>214025511
"Atheist Muslims" refers to folks who identify as atheist or non-religious while still maintaining a cultural or familial connection to Islam. Similar to Atheist Christians or cultural christians you absolute fucking retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

>>214025511
Use a better translator saar

>>214024723 (OP)
God knew this would happen, that's why he had his son born as a poor Aramean from Palestine.

>>214025168
>Now we go to the modern era, which includes the colonial era and modern day where middle easterns are framed internationally
Big problem here, is that I'm not sure classical ethnic dynamics work here anymore. US itself went from economic elites to current socialists like democrats. At the same time the very American Dream is a honeypot by design, and part of the US success is constant brain drain of others.
Of-course as it turns out American exceptionalism is actually a thing, which has surprised me.
Worse, and that's being said by some public figures too, US supposedly carries messianic mission on itself, presumably from US elites point of view. A wild idea to proclaim, but considering that US is both peculiarly religious, and constantly supports Israel, it is likely true, which really makes any Arabic sphere conflicts particularly concerning.
I once had a hypothesis that the primary goal of Middle East wars is hunting or destroying any Sumerian artifacts and items of interest under the guise of economic warfare and resource theft by high-to-mid party members, partly Jewish in interest as some revenge to some sect. But primary occult.
>>214025186
>This is the only framework they ever see us through and ever saw us through for millenniums, us being an inherent inferior and them having a divine right to kill us to appropriate and steal what we have. As long as we sit on a valuable resources they will never ever quench their thirst from our blood.
I'm personally interested what would hypothetically happen were only Europeans to exist (technically I'm European too, but, you know, Russia, let's say we're dead too for this), would they turn on each other? They probably would, just like in warring city-states times.
>The hatred can never be broken so long as the European heart is sick with greed.
That hatred and greed part I won't agree with per se, it can at least be spun, but sadly it is true. I'm just unsure how much.

>>214024800
Considering that Europeans don't have a problem with brown Greeks, yes.
Darker Greeks might accidentally experience distrust because people on first glance might think that they are Muslims, but as soon they know that the person is Greek they will immediately think much better of them.

>>214024800
If I see a brown person I sigh relief when I hear him speak Italian, Spanish or French and not arabic

>>214025226
Reasonable outlooks, but not unchallengeable.
>cycle of hatred
That wouldn't work per se, as internal affairs exist.
I'm sure you can come up with a lot of hypotheticals right of the bat, where "don't intercede on my affairs" can easily cover things that would force a moral and wilful combat capable person to go full violence simply because the alternative is injustice. Not to mention that it's just a retreat. It's not life.
But there are actually escape clauses here. Conflicts, even murder under economic pretext, they aren't inherently evil. Couple that with unstable, at times illusory nature of the cycles of hatred, that both makes it easier to battle them, and allows, naturally, configurations where people both can do all the stuff but without harming innocents unjustly, assuming participants are mature and self-responsible. Rules of engagement, dueling codexes, etc.
>world peace
That too can be challenged. Happiness isn't an intrinsic property or goal of life, and absense of it doesn't necessarily mean discontent. One's just calm. That alone is good on its own.
>we can't trust each other
>(especially , especially, especially, especially white people)
Pic related.
>to treat one another with human decency, fairness, justice, love, equality, and benevolence.
Likewise, one can't trust anyone, but one doesn't need to, as lack of trust isn't synonymous with preemptive hostility. If anything it's actually unwise.
>All countries should be stripped of nuclear weapons
And that is especially challengeable. Disarming and weakening only gimps capacity to kill, protect and survive. It provides no actual boons, other than to naive people who can't handle power and have no long-term foresight for potential enemies.
Combatting evil is harder when you're weak, and evildoers will only thank you for such handicaps based on ill-informed ideas and misplaced, ill-thought sentiments.

In ruzzia, the government dominates everything & invigorates nothing. In this immense radioactive ash heap, if they're not quiet, they're made silent. Securocracy death hangs over everyone's heads striking capriciously. Two coffins: the cradle & grave. Mourning the birth of children more than their deaths. When terror rules their lives, they do not seek death because they already know what it is. Moreover, the number who kill themselves is so high, nobody knows the figure, except for the privilege reserved by the chekists. The pride of absolutism is so damaging that it rivals the power of Providence.

What do ruzzians care about exerting influence over Europe? About influencing European politics? What matters to ruzzians is to have absolutism/tyranny, to develop a polity that has nothing of its own. They watch, listen, act like a person in a crowd. When will this play pretend end? Social life in this thing is a permanent paranoid conspiracy against the truth.
ruzzian despotism is fake order, serving as a pretext for covert & overt oppression.

ruzzia sees Europe as prey that will sooner or later be handed over to it by dissensions. It foments chaos among in the hope of profiting from corruption that it encourages (convenient), because it suits its purposes. The chekist-nashist say: "Europe is following the path of becoming agitated by vain liberalism, while we remain powerful precisely because we are not free - we're patient under the yoke, we will make others pay our shame."
A disordered immense ambition, only germinating in the souls of the oppressed, feeding only on the misfortune of others, ferments in the heart of the ruzzians.
Essentially conquering, greedy by dint of privations, expropriates in advance, at home by a degrading submission, the hope of exercising tyranny over others. Everything distracting from shame, they wash away in the putrefaction of all public & personal liberty, with the ruzzian serf dreaming of world domination whilst on his knees.

>>214025996
Very melodramatic. You're like those old grannies that trash talk youngsters. Holy fuck dude, are you banting at least or are you for real this unironic?

>>214024723 (OP)
Europe accepted milions of immigrants from middle east and let's them live without adopting local culture desu

>>214024819
One day Israelis will take over Tunisia and become the new Carthage.

>>214024723 (OP)
Have you considered the 2000 years of horrific inbreeding caused by islam in between then and now?

>>214024723 (OP)
It's a mostly anti-muslim thing THOUGH

>>214024723 (OP)
Whites hate mena
>worship Jesus

Asians hate Indians
>worship Buddha

Both are hardworking autists that worship brown men with soul. Lower divorce rates, more religion, more families, more trad virgins and don’t work as hard.

White and Asian women rather date out or not have kids yet west and east claim a higher iq then the browns they worship

>>214024743
Before 9/11 it was skinheads attacking them
After 9/11 suddenly they it’s religion so they can be more racist and project white guilt

>>214024723 (OP)
We are indeed retarded because we (our parents) let your kind in.

>>214024723 (OP)
when all your interactions with a given group of people are negative, you will have a negative opinion of them
that's how human psychology works
if anything, we see that come out in full force with normies and Indians as of late

>>214024741
he was a red-haired israelite (ie jew)

>>214024723 (OP)
Because we have to interact with you and it turns out brown people commit crimes exponentially more than normal, are incredibly hostile and hate our culture.
>Yet right after being done insulting middle easterns for their browness they turn and worship Jesus Christ
Jesus wasn't an 80iq drug dealer who ran out of a fake barber shop and machete monkey

>>214024741
this

>>214024773
Biblical jews were ARYAN thovghever

>>214024723 (OP)
The average nafri in Europe is way more racist against Europeans than what we are against nafris (we do as a consequence of their acts). Nafris only rape, kill or assault white people. They don´t rape, kill or assault other nafris in Europe. That is racist.

youre brown. please shut the fuck up and never ever post again

>>214029221
those are mutually exclusive, anon

>>214024723 (OP)
>Aramaic which is a cousin of the Arabic language.
Not true

>>214024723 (OP)
yeah