Thread 214027675

What does future hold for them?

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG

literally nothing
even if the war ended today and never returned
remember it was the poorest and the most corrupt country in europe even before the crimea
we should mercy-annex them

>>214027675 (OP)
sex with israeli men

>>214027675 (OP)
A lot of bbcs for their widowed women

>>214027675 (OP)
They will revert to Islam like all of Europe sooner or later

>>214027675 (OP)
Hopefully something better but probably less than they deserve for their unfair hardship.
>>214027893
>remember it was the poorest and the most corrupt country in europe even before the crimea
Yes it was by no means what we would call a good country, but Ukraine and its people deserved better than a russ*id chimpout and invasion

>>214027928
So...zoophilia and even more dire poverty?

>>214027675 (OP)
Eventual EU membership, continuing militarization and investments into MIC, as the most economically perspective and innovative industry.

You can hate me all you want for having this opinion, but I'm firmly convinced that this is the most likely path at this point.

>>214028011
sorry but you're a failed state

>>214028045
vpn off ivanjeet

>>214028011
Lol nigga you dont have a military industry and you dont have manpower anymore
Your economy is dead, your population is leaving or dead too, you aren't joining nato let alone recovering your territories or joining EU

Russia is just eroding your population until you bend over
Let it go broski, your country died for a jewosh midget
To be fair ir was also created by one (lenin)

>>214028073
vpn off

>>214028073
>your country died for a jewosh midge
But he's not russian? Lmao

Sirgay, you bark under a VPN instead of fighting in trenches you're a pathetic stupid fucking asian rusdog

>>214028066
Ukraine GDP per capita 5.389 USD
Argentina GDP per capita 13.858 USD
Lol

>>214028011
UKREXIT when

slowly die out, young go to poland for the summer to build and try to get visas to the EU, the old rot in their commieblocks not renovated since the 50s, the war just sped this up

>>214028066
yes you need to be a vpn russian-indian (?) to state the obvious lmao
also in case you hadnt noticed theres shitton of ukrainians here in poland some of then undoubtedly pro-russian, why'd someone like that need a vpn anyway

>>214028110
Already happened. Ukraine had 51mln people in 1991, today it has 30

>>214028118
vpn off now

>>214027675 (OP)
Half the country will depopulate the moment the borders open for them.
Ukraine will become borderlands and Ukies will start cosplaying as cossacks, and eventually maybe become real cossacks, but this time, at the service of Germany against the Russians instead of the tartars.

>>214028118
>shitton of ukrainians here in poland some of then undoubtedly pro-russian
That's a lie, I didnt meet a single pro-hivrussian ukie.

Try more nigger hivdog

>>214028110
exit from what? being a sovereign nation?

>>214028094
Ukraine is ruled by a jewish midget whose family lives in israel.
They are literally dry of young men.
Their weaponry is all bought from America and for that they contract debt they pay in natural resources
Their state is eroded, their youth left or died, their economy and industry is nonexistence as their consumption also goes down and so does working age population

My guess is, ukraine in the best of cases transforms into some sort of guinea pig borderlands for america to test automatic weapons that require no manpower.
The population will be mostly composed of foreign temporary workers and the government will be run as a proxy state (now is fully ran by palantir btw) by the CIA

Otherwise its likely they just get conquered by russia all the way to the dnieper and well, the rest happens the same anyway

>>214028110
Considering HUXIT isn't a thing, one would think UKREXIT will never be a thing

>>214027675 (OP)
Blacked Models

>>214028153
>Disclose tv
Lmao Putin is literally a halfkike thats surrounded by kike oligarchs. Rusdogia lost a million fucking ruspiggies just to get donbawe, luganda and settle mariupol with fucking muslims.
I shit on your hivdog species hivan, ukies are often shit but you're literally subhuman.

>>214028153
>They are literally dry of young men.
They could trivially get more men from EU, if they simply promised them some land and if it was known that there are lot of single Ukrainian ladies in Ukraine.
The problem is that the retards let all the young women escape to Germany and they will never go back, lol.

>>214028198
Putin is far more likely to be an assimilated finnic tribe around St,Peterburg than he is to be jewish lol

>>214028097
Not everyone gets loan waivers diego

>>214028135
yeah it's poetic how the current frontline is pretty similar to the old Polish frontier
but makes sense since back then it was an empty steppe that was only populated in the 19th century (correct me if I'm wrong)

a few years ago scientists were complaining about the steppe being choked out of existence by agriculture guess what, the war helped restore the natural habitat

nothing against ukraine btw

>>214028153
>Ukraine is ruled by a jewish midget whose family lives in israel.
I checked and apparently he does have family in Ukraine, but how is it relevant?

>>214028225
What land? Are you clinically retarded? People don't want to pick up strawberries in Germany for 14 euros a hour but in the vgh... wheat utopia of VKRAINE they would gladly spend their entire lives doing the same for 2 euros a hour while under the constant threat of Russian invasion? And where the fuck that land would come from, all the land has owners already

>>214028198
Holy copelusion
Ukrainian loses are ao abysmal you have DC and other western piggies sending the zog golem drumpf to kiss daddy putler toes for a peace deal or a ceasefire.

Ukraine is never going tl recover lost territory nor crimea. And russia is a normalization with the west (which has been antagonized by americans since 1991) because the war is basically over

They have been in defensive for months and they are evacuating all border towns because they ran out of personnel to defend the frontline
They are getting surrounded and as they get surrounded and puccia keeps sending drone swarms they are increasingly losing more manpower and also suffering increasingly higher desertion rates.
Ukraine is becoming indefensible and the frontline will crack via atrition sooner or later
And when that happens its 101% over

>>214028146
EU tyranny

>>214028298
2 more week of yapping as always for 4 years now lmao hivan your species is a joke

>>214028273
Ukraine still has industry jobs. If western incels were promised a house on their own land and a country with a disproportionate amount of young women, they would sign up in droves, even if they would earn less.
The issue is only, how do you keep the women from moving westwards.

In German terms, it's like if Brandenburg has an over abundance of young women (instead of young men) it would be super appealing due to cheaper housing and less density of people, even with lower salaries.

>>214028319
"Hell is other people" am I right, Jew?

>>214028298
>And russia is a normalization with the west
Is negotiating*

Not gonna happen anyway, Eucrat brusselpedos fesr the utter humilliation this will represent and will sacrifice the ukraine in the altar of multiculturalism before that happening

At any rate america might not be fond of allowing china to keep russia as an ally to keep pushing for this appointed governor of Europe place, and russia wpuld prefer to normalize relations while retaining sovereignity because of the artic trade networks opening via global warming. In which china (who also placed eye on the far east of russia) is trying to sneak in.
I mean its a matter of priorities
Is it worth kneeling to chinks to dunk on russians?
Will EUtards keep their Feud as the american Empire finally loses hegemony and collapses? Time will say i guess

>>214028298
still think a frozen conflict is their best bet for one simple reason: you can't trust russia. if they sign anything, they'll legally give up all they've already lost AND the deal will inevitably be brokeen by russians anyway

the other way would be to have western ukraine as a separate state to the middle and have it be a EU/NATO protectorate (not a EU member, they won't meet the requirements for another 30 years)

>>214028336
How long did ww2 lasted?
Russia is a closed economy and this war inflated its MIC to oblivion.
They are now producing ballistic missiles that bypass the american patriot defense systems and thousand-drone swarms daily.
The longer the war goes the better for russia.
Why do you think putin is unwilling to negotiate better terms for an agreement while DC wants to get time or a ceasefire?

>>214028364
Ukraine had 20% unemployment rate according to Spiegel (and you are not getting any other unemployment data because the Ukrainian statistics stopped publishing this stuff after the war) + the average monthly wage there is a 300$ RIGHT NOW. And no, there's no cheap housing, it's cheap for you only because you have WESTERN wages, if you were earning the Ukrainian wages there (and you would), then the housing would be costlier for you there than a flat in medium sized German cities for German workers. You operate doing a lot of idiotic assumptions: what IF Ukraine had cheap housing, what IF Ukraine had industry, what IF Ukraine had jobs, what IF Ukraine had decent salaries, what IF Ukraine still had women. What if I were a son of billionaire with a dick the size of my leg?

the """argentinian"""

>>214028419
We know that hivnig, he even posted s copy pasta now so 99% he's paid

>>214028418
>he doesn't know
EU is going to shift lots of the remaining industry to Ukraine the moment it becomes stable, as a way to help their economy recover.
Land, they have plenty of. It's a matter of will.

If you're wondering what's up with today's chimpout, we hit another refinery overnight

>>214027675 (OP)
According to what has happened in western Europe they will need at least 2 million African and Indian immigrants a year for the next 20 years

>>214028381
Russia knows that the EU wants to freeze the conflict, which is why they won’t accept a ceasefire.

their future is bright and beautiful

alright he dropped his vpn

>>214028153
The debt is fake and will never be repaid (except if somebody writes down that it was paid for out of the seized Russian assets)

was any peace deal signed or are the russians just gonna say zelensky didnt want peace and take over the rest of ukraine slowly

>>214028552
Zelensky has already said he will only accept a complete russian withdrawal so Russia has won

>>214028460
Like clockwork, why are ruzanimals like this

>>214028381
This is more likely what will happen anyway.
Ukraine is becoming indefensible and the reality is that america is not in conditions of pulling a large scale war against them and neither is EU.

Germany is deindustrializing and on the brink of recession
The UK is stagnated, bordering a social crisis, in recession, etc.
France is losing all of its territories on africa as we speak and suffering the same stagflation issues as the rest of europe while all three are suffering the tariffa imposed by america as punitory measures because daddy wants to reindustrialize and no country will devaluate or pay up for it

What we are seeing is the decay of the american empire (which itself in america is suffering the bane brought by outsourcing their industrial base, massive trade deficit, inflation, a meme fake economy, etc)
Accompanied with a failed trade war with china, a TACO in iran, and a defeat on ukraine.

>>214028011
It sucks what has happened to your country, but that is completely delusional.
Having the military and its industry being the only relevant part of the economy can't work in a market economy because militaries are primarily funded through taxes. Only central planning and decommodification can sustain such a silly idea and you probably know what happened with the late Soviet economy, which was infamous for having a legendary MIC and nothing else of value.
Ukraine either needs to grow its service economy (not happening because then it competes with the western part of Europe) or it can become a factory of consumer goods for Europe (improbable due to a low number of cheap workers but more likely).

>>214028565
what a shame

>>214028522
The debt will be paid in natural resources, territory, sovereignity, etc.
Ukraine will become de facto an american proxy state to ward russia off.
But the question is, as america enters decline, is this petty feud with russia (which while, a threatening regional power and the second military superpower on earth is not the actual rising superpower) worth a defeat in many fields against the chinks?
The rising threat are chinks, Russia is just a vandal state that you pay some fee in extortions to keep happy with some regularty
But americans fear russian influence in europe i guess

>>214028011
>And where the fuck that land would come from, all the land has owners already
Squatters rights. A corpse can't bring you to court
>>214028011
Who or why would this happen? Countries only develop if there's benefit making them stronger as a bulwark against another enemy, or they create a big market for goods. Ukraine probably will militarize, but it will be mostly a captive market for Europeans to sell arms on the off chance America doesn't simply eats our lunch. Europe as a whole, with non war ravaged economies, spends billions on a MIC, and is still raped by the US which spends trillions. Where would Ukraine get the money to have such a native MIC? The EU would take on the biggest drain it's ever faced letting Ukraine join, and would make a joke of our application protocol, if Ukrainians can enter, why not Serbs or Turks? The world benefits from the economy staying small and selling grain cheap, same as Russia staying a retard filled gas and mineral depot.
The most likely outcome is nothing ever happens, the war continues because neither side has little to gain from it ending in the state it is now, an attritional frozen trench conflict like cyprus or Korea

>>214028565
Has won what? Both countries are losing. Ukraine is not getting its territories back and Russia is now considered an evil totalitarian shithole by everybody.
Russia can't "win", it's setting the bar too high.

More war

>>214028706
>everybody
The west isn't everybody. And frankly, even Americans don't care that much. It's only the European echo chamber

>>214028706
Russians will exist in 10,000 years
Ukraine will be African in 10 years

>>214028405
>Russia is a closed economy
That's why most ammo comes from north Korea and china and drones from iran lmao ahahahhaha fag

>>214028643
>Having the military and its industry being the only relevant part of the economy can't work in a market economy
Consider Israel. Besides, a lot of stuff we make is dual-use or has potential civilian spinoffs or can be used in other industries.
>Ukraine either needs to grow its service economy (not happening because then it competes with the western part of Europe)
We are service economy already.
>can become a factory of consumer goods for Europe
This is basically what I said above.
>>214028673
>would make a joke of our application protocol, if Ukrainians can enter, why not Serbs or Turks
How is that? We are doing everything by the book, as in, following the established negotiation procedure, that's no different from that for other negotiating candidates.

>>214028481
Lmao I knew you're a VPN hivdog rusnigger

You subhumans are pathetic, cant even post under your own flag

>>214028830
Israel has incredibly developed civilian industry, it's not a North Korea. Israel is also populated by extremely intelligent people who manage to get top positions regardless of in what country they live. Have you seen many ethnic Ukrainian billionaires and financiers abroad, the ones that did not steal stufff in Ukraine and just stash their money in the West? The best Ukrainian I have seen so far was a programmer. That's it, that's as high as Ukrainians go

>>214028828
>russian drones from iran, the country that has scheluded water and electricity outages

Do you really believe this
The only thing russia imports by necessity for war is manpower.
For which they hire these central asian tajik and uzbek churka retard mercenaries.
Russia economy is very self sufficient, almost as if they once were the soviet union and infeastructure and the industrial base kinda... just stood there?

>>214028914
Do I belive?? Your hivnigger drone crashes in Poland 2 days ago and it's made out of chink and nork parts lmao.

You're fucking poor and sell resources to even be a bit richer than fucking african, not some closed fucking economy lmao

>>214028011
You're not getting into the EU with a post-war mainly military-based economy however cool it may look. Cool drones and shit, but you still struggle with government-related stuff. The last move of disenfranchising the anti-corruption body didn't look too great from the West. Also expect huge resistance from agriculture leaders in the EU because your land is fucking golden and it will absolutely sodomise countries like France and Poland.
But good spirit, I like you and I want you, and I hope we do it the easy way.
>>214028824
Nobody is African here, Nigel. Go fix your damn country, nobody wants to do anything with you.
>>214028830
>can become a factory of consumer goods for Europe
Yeah like I just said this is exactly what's going to bother everybody here, either due to unfair competition or delocalisation or whatever. It's clearly not an advantage, it's an asset but it's not a given.

>>214028944
They basically just assemble the chinese made parts like legos

>>214027675 (OP)
We gonna sell them out like whores to Russia. We will never let them join the EU or Nato. We need cannon fodder against our borders. Sorry lil bro

>>214028958
Well anon, that's what the whole accession process is for.

>>214028998
You're just jumping VPNs in rage now sirgay

>>214029030
Stop coping, you are next on the line if you missbehave.

>>214027893
>ukraine gets split in half between poland and russia
how the turntables