Thread 214027721

Who was in the wrong here?

>>214027721 (OP)
Greeks certainly. It's just a name. What the fuck are they so assraped about?

>>214027741
What a nigger answer, you're probably brown.

>>214027721 (OP)
Macedonians are Slavic + =
Paleo Balkan same with most Greeks but at least Macedonians accept their mixed heritage unlike Greece
So for me Macedonia

>>214027752
Explain what they are so ass raped about pidor

greece was correct but they were absolute bitches about it

>>214027790
Because the slavs are medieval alien population, who stole their name. Although Greeks went full assmad about it, but they're in the right.

It's the same as some nafris would start claiming they're the real Dutch and you're some Belgian faggot.

>>214027721 (OP)
Well the gayreeks, north macedonians are literally just some random slavs that have nothing to do with ancient macedonia

>>214027813
I also think Greeks mostly got assmad, not that they use the name Macedonia for the region, but the fact that they larp as ancient Macedonians, which is hilarious desu.

All the statues are made of plaster btw.

>>214027813
if i remember correctly the greeks of macedonia (present day) are genetic slavs too lol
>>214027840
i get that north macedonia was trying to do something at least but this shit is so embarrassing

>>214027872
>if i remember correctly the greeks of macedonia (present day) are genetic slavs too lol


Not really, but they do have admixture from Slavs which spread in middle ages. Most population studies put it at like 20-30%.

>>214027721 (OP)
They have to live in the fucking Balkans, just let them have their silly little name.

>>214027813
Greeks Macedonians are also slavic retard. No one in the region has anything to do with old macedonians. It's just a name for the region now and macedonia is also in the region.

>>214027813
Genetic distance map to the Hellenistic Macedonian population. If anything Tuscany or Lombardy has the right to be called "Macedonia" by your retarded logic.

>>214027776
>>214027813
Macedonians aren't Slavic, they just speak a Slavic language which barely classifies as Slavic at this point due to how much it diverged from the rest of Slavic languages

>>214027918
fake image from turkish twitter
>>214027942
contaminated sample

>>214027963
Why are you so assblasted about a name?

You never hear an Italian malding about the name "Romania"

>>214027918
They have Slavic input, but that doesn't make them Slavic you colossal retard.

> No one in the region has anything to do with old macedonians. It's just a name for the region now and macedonia is also in the region.


Yeah lets ignore that Old Macedonian is clasified as Greek language or sibling of Greek language, that their culture which Greek, they worshiped Greek gods, contributed to Greek literature etc.


Of course no population is the same as it was 2,5K~ years ago in Europe, you complete retard as there were massive migration waves.

Should we discard Romans as Romans as well, because new genetic studies show that in Imperial age many Romans from Italian peninsula carried Middle Eastern or North African admixture? Stupid nigger.

>>214027975
because its not theirs. they also claim the history of the place by delineating it from greek history and making it "macedonian" meaning slavic, with the usual bs propaganda. you are just a turkomuslimjeet diaspora moron who pretends he doenst understand because of your usual GDS

>>214027813
Modern Geeks are just Turks with curly hair

>>214027988
>having slavic blood does not make you slavic

next you're gonna tell me Obama was a white man

>Yeah lets ignore that Old Macedonian is clasified as Greek language or sibling of Greek language, that their culture which Greek, they worshiped Greek gods, contributed to Greek literature etc.
it is, so? who the fuck cares. It's just a name

>Should we discard Romans as Romans as well, because new genetic studies show that in Imperial age many Romans from Italian peninsula carried Middle Eastern or North African admixture? Stupid nigger.
What do you mean "discard Romans"? Yes, we did that in 476.

Romania still uses that name despite being slavs too, not a single Italian cries about this.

>>214028029
I understand your argument about why they don't deserve it, but that doesn't justify you getting so ass mad about it. There are plenty of countries with tenuous relations to their names, but no healthy adult should give a shit about that.

England only has 30% Anglo-Saxon blood. Turkey is mostly greek/anatolian with just a small dash of Turk sprinkled in. Germany is mostly Celtic. The empire of Mali was nowhere near Mali, Romania is not Roman like I pointed out.

Yet no one cares. Why are you so mad about this particular one? Are you 12?

Literally

>>214028080
>I understand your argument
apparently not. it would be if turkey lets say was trying to name itself Medea after the ancient Medes and claiming they created the Medean empire, because they lived in a region of the country Turks now call their own.

North Macedonians should just be content with being their own flavor of Slav, like all the other Slavs.
LARPing as the heirs of the ancient kingdom of Macedonia is cringe

Also btw what is this retarded instinct among intellectually challenged people on int to reflexively call someone brown/muslim just because he has a different point of view? I am neither of those things and nothing about anything I said would warrant that response

Exhibit A:
>>214028029
>you are just a turkomuslimjeet diaspora moron
Exhibit B:
>>214027752
>you're probably brown.

>>214028117
So? Turkey is now named after the celjuk Turks, who they maybe share 10% of blood with. Yet no one cares that they stole their name.

>>214028117
and that the ancient Medes were turkic

>>214028080
>Romania still uses that name despite being slavs too, not a single Italian cries about this.

Because they don't larp as Romans and claiming that ancient Romanians created Rome. That's the issue Greek have with Macedonians.

>What do you mean "discard Romans"? Yes, we did that in 476.


As in that they're not Roman anymore because they had some foreign admixture? Nigger population were not sedentary and moved and mixed with different populations especially higher classes. Many "elite" Romans carried North African admixture or from MENA. But they didn't stop being Roman because they mixed with some elite family from far away land.

Although you have /pol/ tier understanding of genetics it didn't work that way in ancient world. Also just looked up the sample you've posted image for. As expected distances to modern population is so huge that he's not even close to any modern population if we're looking an ancient he's closest to Myceaneans(Greeks). Thought so you're a nigger who fakes shit.

>>214028141
You keep repeating yourself, but I just want you to answer one simple question lol: why does that make you so mad?

who the fuck cares? how old are you?

>>214028132
>So? Turkey is now named after the celjuk Turks, who they maybe share 10% of blood with. Yet no one cares that they stole their name.
because no one was turkic in the area to care. are you retarded?

>>214027721 (OP)
Serbia. If it wasn't for their betrayal it would be in Bulgaria.

>>214028155
bla bla bla bla

stop dodging the question retard: Why does this make you so mad? are you autistic? a child? both? grow up lol

>>214028182
Finally loser has no arguments and took an L.

lmao

>>214028193
Why do you keep dodging the question? Why do you get so mad over a name?

>>214027956
they have slavic genetics and unlike the greeks who cry like bitches when someone tells them about the slavic BLEACH of macedonia like this fellow
>>214027963

>>214028207
0 arguments, loser lmao.

>>214028237
You have yet to give me one argument why a grown person should get mad over a name retard.

I'm not sure what kind of "arguments" you expect from me here. Should I really argue why it is ridiculous for a grown man to get so worked up about a name?

>>214028237
I think you are under the age of 18

>>214027741
>t. turkroach

the same chuds malding about Norf Maceodnia cream their pants to """Prussia"""

>>214027721 (OP)
Not sure, probably North Macedonia. But I started reading a few books on Alexander and the diadochi recently I do find it amusing how much the Greeks and Macedonians hateed each other, and now Greece is having an endless meltdowns over other people claiming ownership of Macedonian culture and ancestry.

Enlightened centrist take:
North Macedonians are cringe about larping as Macedonians and Greece is justified in their claim. But Greeks, like the one ITT arent that much better with how they act like they are ancient hellenes and what not, when 300 years ago all of them identified as Romans. Its a clear conflict of interest because Romans fucked the Hellenes in the ass. Greeks tend to be in strong denial about this. Not as bad as NM who are BULGARIANS

If I had to guess the Dutch flag is a North Macedonian larping and the Australian flag is some Greek projecting his own diaspora status

>>214028379
I'm Dutch. I just fail to see why a grown ass man would cry over a name. Do you have an explanation? Is it autism?

>>214028389
no i find it absurd too but this was like 8 years ago and doesnt concern me so i dont care much

>>214028429
but i will add that greece shouldve been punished for blocking the country from everything over some stupid name

>>214028346
which books?

>>214027988
>Should we discard Romans as Romans as well, because new genetic studies show that in Imperial age many Romans from Italian peninsula carried Middle Eastern or North African admixture? Stupid nigger.
You people keep saying this, not a shadow of these supposed studies tho. Just varg, Joel davis, Tom rowsell posts on Twitter as proof

>>214028237
bodied that freak

okay that settles it

>>214028551
what does it bother you that they do?

>>214028446
Greece didn’t want any there to be any chance of irredentist claims on their lands, I know there isn’t right now, but there could have been 20, 40, 80 years in the future.

>>214028595
north macedonia is effectively a dead country and the logic is there. but by that logic macedonia couldve asked greece to change the name of the region to prevent future greek claims

>>214028595
all of our neighboors do that because they know that their names and nationalities are for more recent in their countries than ours. its a preemptive defensive attempt basically. they fabricate claims like these so that if we would ever make claims to their countries in a war or something, they have something to show to the table.

>>214028627
>by that logic macedonia couldve asked greece to change the name of the region to prevent future greek claims
True, but the fact of the matter is that Greece got into NATO before North Macedonia, therefore it can use NATO accession to for e the latter to change its official name

>>214028582
I'm just shocked how it just spread like wildfire all over the race realist/ white supremacist sphere without the shadow of a proof. I thought whites were supposed to the smart masterrace, they kept showing the opposite at every interaction I have with them.

>>214028595
>>214028627
the entire Balkans should just be renamed to Serbia

>>214028627
>>214028671
but the name and its history are not theirs. so they have no right to ask us anything. we do.

>>214028346
very disingenuous post considering all Greeks hated each other, but that's to be expected from an illiterate scandigayvian

>>214028717
ellinaustralos?

>>214027721 (OP)
We call the Greek one Makedónia with a K and the Slavic one Macedónia with a C so there's zero confusion.
Anyone else do this or something similar?

>>214028823
...and C is pronounced as 'ts' in Hungarian

Greece is in the wrong. They're right to question the we wuz ancient kingdom larp but the name of the country is just a name and words change meaning over time. If they've been calling their people that for a long time they're not suddenly going to change their whole identity because some other country told them to. It never worked like that. Greece is assuming that everyone in the world is a braindead retard who can't differentiate between the ancient kingdom and the modern country of the same name. Macedonia is too small and weak to have any realistic chances of getting Greek land. In the 90s Greece imposed a trade embargo on Macedonia over this petty shit and they still somehow convinced the entire world that they're the reasonable ones

>>214028947
alot of people point to that country when they are asked where was Alexander the great of macedon from. and if this keeps going i m sure that even Basil the Bulgarslayer of the Macedonian dyntasty will eventually, if he hasnt already, become "macedonian". not to mention immidiate concernst like trade and place of origin of products.
you are extremely disingenous