Thread 214052792

>REEEEEEE WHY ISN'T EASTERN EUROPE SO RICH AND DEVELOPED AS WESTERN EUROPE
You can't be rich and developed when you have a devastating war each century, when you get invaded by either western thugs or eastern barbarians, who try to pillage your country and exterminate the population
The key to the riddle is simple, lol.

>>214052792 (OP)
Unfortunate geographic realities, yes, as we're an entry point for each invading force, and also have undefendable borders towards west, north.
Lower IQ people of eastern Europe (I won't name them but certain retarded somebodies) think it's because of Russia.
Truth is Russia is actually just an embodient of what we truly are, that somehow grew to relevancy through sword, the only way around here, and falls short in the modern reality because of that, where economy and subterfuge are the main ways.

>>214053029
>where economy and subterfuge are the main ways
Optics, better word. This is why east loses to the west and why the iron curtain fell.

>>214052792 (OP)
Man Lithuania used to be HUGE. How have they fallen off so much since?

>>214052792 (OP)
it's material for a research paper how old PLC borders cover resistance against russia in the current war.
It's as if old borders remain in genes

>>214053067
They relaxed around Poles

take me back to yesterday rolling dice and getting laid

>>214053067
The majority of their territories were populated by Ruthenians (Eastern Slavs), who had uprisings all the time because of the oppression by catholics. That's why both Poland and Lithiania fell. They bit more than they could swallow and suffocated.

>>214053245
Yes, litwins were evil ALTHOUGH there were some evil, for easter people, Rutheranians like Jarema Wiśniowiecki whos hated by ukies to this day and a Polish hero. During his time when ukrainians heard his name they wispered "jeremi idzie" and ran.

>>214053094
>Getting ganged up by Russians, Germans and Austrians
>akhtually its because of poles
Retard

>>214052792 (OP)
the correct answer is communism
Germany and Japan were devastated less than 100 years ago and look at them now

>>214053401
>Germany
This is what capitalism and neoliberalism do to a mf. Also, EE was poorer than WE even before ww2.

>>214053401
>we would be kangz if not for communism
Roll back 100 years and the only semi-successful country in EE was Czechoslovakia and, well... They were the most westwards country (geographically speaking) and had a large German minority without independent governing for ages.

>>214053401
>devastated
oh man I wish we were as devastated as them

>>214053527
are you retarded?

>>214053595
Here we go again, what is the problem now, Polska gurom after ww1?

>>214053628
by what definition was czechoslovakia successful in the period of 1918-1939?

>>214053060
>>214053029
serb delusion

>>214053628
>They were the most westwards country (geographically speaking) and had a large German minority without independent governing for ages.
Show me your tigers

>>214053664
For starters they had an actual industry (even better than the Germans in some military regards, but admittedly, because of forced disarmament), high literacy rate and they weren't playing with cow shit.
Compared to my country they were like 50 years ahead.
>>214053698
>>214053720
I'm not here to endorse Polish delusions.

>>214053739
>Compared to my country they were like 50 years ahead.
everything compared to serbia is a success LOL
also czechoslovakia had no real tanks or airplanes

>>214053814
>everything compared to serbia is a success LOL
I forgot to write before that for all faults of EE aside from Russia Serbs were the only ones that had the soul to want to build something. Tiny Serbia had more agency than Poland who only changed colonial masters every so often. Just objective facts, nothing personal. I know many Slavs love being colonies of foreign overlords, especially the Catholics.
>also czechoslovakia had no real tanks
Excuse me, what? Are you being serious? I cannot even talk to you if you write something this stupid which shows you have zero knowledge of interwar designs.
>airplanes
They designed some obsolete ones, true.

Okay, Poland was absolute dogshit, so we have to bring all the neighbours down since Polska wasn't gurom back then.
Amazing. I never had a normal discussion with you.

>>214053976
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

serbian inferiority complex is showing

>>214054017
didn't Poland win a war with russians while fighting with germans at the same time?

>>214054032
You're literally Africans with white skin. Not in a million years will I believe official Polish IQ stats. You're lucky to be in the 80s range, but probably in the high 70s.
Everything I wrote is objectively true. If you dispute anything I write you're stupid.
Germany greatly benefitted from capturing Czechoslovak stockpiles and used them in the invasion of France, Germany outright TOOK Czechoslovak tanks and gave them German designations, Czech tanks influenced German tank designs, Skoda was a great factory.
Who taught you retards English and gave you the internet if you're not gonna use it properly.

And by the way I despise you only because of my interactions with you, zero political reasons, so don't start mentioning Russians.

>>214052792 (OP)
westoids don't thank us enough for acting as their shield

>>214054088
>Skoda was a great factory.
what does this have to do with czech tanks?

>>214054112
>i must suck russian cock i love russian cum because i am a SERB

>>214052792 (OP)
>be at war for 80 fucking years
>somehow cause the dutch golden age
What's the eastern european excuse?

>>214054142
>what does this have to do with czech tanks?
?????????????
Am I talking with real people here? Does Russia have some agents to make you look super stupid to everyone else? Just google stuff.

>>214054185
maybe too much turk cum mixed with your dna for you to understand english

>>214054203
What does a factory that designed tanks and tank parts have to do with the tanks? Well, nothing actually, presumably tanks in Poland spawn out of thin air so you don't know better.

>>214054237
at this point serbs must be some mixed turko mnogoloids

>>214054270
You're likely baiting me to reply, but I'll say one more thing, while I insult you, I address the points you make so you can learn something through this exchange.
Your attitude is not helping you.

>>214053067
that land was very sparsely populated, so it wasn't difficult to fill a power vacuum quickly in the first place

>>214054146
unironically cold weather, gulf stream effect is less pronounced that far east
western europeans populations could grow quicker thanks in part to more favorable environmental conditions

>>214052792 (OP)
One can't blame everything on invaders.
To build one must first desire to build and have will to build.
Consider that most people simply don't care, and are too lazy to make long-term plans spanning centuries.
In other cases they may just be afraid of challenge, or some are playing dirty. Dracula wasn't exactly supported by other Euros early on, yet it was he who fought against the Turks at the time.

>>214053245
Lithuania fell because they betrayed gods snd converted to Yahwism.

>>214052792 (OP)
well said

>>214053029
>Lower IQ people of eastern Europe (I won't name them

>>214053029
>Truth is Russia is actually just an embodient of what we truly are
speak for yourself