Thread 214126440

We should as a society help the poor and we shouldn't have billionares

>>214126440 (OP)
doesn't seem so b-AAACK
it's hilarious to see amerilards who live in the most prosperous country of the world complaining about billionaires

>>214126486
Non of the wealth goes to the people

>>214126534
hahahaha
you suffer in paradise

>>214126594
>$20 per hour on the poop crew

Grim

Communism is good because greedy corporations will not import immigrant to use as slaves

what I'm saying is, do you want to be flooded with indians or not?

>>214126534
Just not true except short term

it's hilarious americans complain about billionaires when 80% or so of you invest directly or indirectly (401k) in the stock market.
this people is clueless

>>214126486
russia, definitely not a corrupt and inhumane society before and after communism

>>214126896
There's tension there but most stock is in fact held by the rich

being poor or working class gives you way more disposable income and quality of life under capitalism not communism
welfare, healthcare, labour laws and shit is al from liberalism and capitalism

>>214126900
all communist socities become inhumane, even latinx such as Cuba

>>214126440 (OP)
both capitalism and communism suck

>>214126896
>it's hilarious americans complain about billionaires when 80% or so of you invest directly or indirectly (401k) in the stock market.

Maybe this is true but this doesnt cancel the fact that

1) people have to sell their labour power and create more value for the employer-capitalists than what theyre paid in salary

2) this value which takes the form of commodities, is sold by the capitalists without the direct producer (workers) consent or approval, thus he is alienated from his own work

3) commodity production, that is, production for the sake of production, grows larger than the market, leading to crisis of overproduction

4) machines, which shoould be emancipatory, are instead chains that enslave humanity


These are all characteristics of capitalism exploitation and they exists in america wether the public stock market exist or not

>>214126440 (OP)
How does one be poor in America? Just work at McDonald's or Subway

>>214126896
we should be happy with our quality of life nosediving as the wealthy consolidate more and more power

>>214127111
Literally how do they respond to this?

>>214127203
they prolly don't need to, we're too dysfunctional of a society to ever do anything about it

>>214126440 (OP)
Oh, they're gonna love you.
Tenderly.

>>214126534
In communism your wealth goes to welfare leeching browns

>>214126440 (OP)
Communism is more than Economic system. What it applies to wealth class will be attached to the other aspects of difference and life; like race, culture, ethics, property, nationality, sex, sexuality, occupation, or even language and aesthetic.

>>214126440 (OP)
"Communism, but racist and sexist"

>>214127203
That's wages but total compensation tracks a lot closer. So some of what you see there is healthcare costs increasing. The American system is bad but healthcare costs are increasing everywhere in the world because new technology is not lowering the cost of care much, the way it has the cost of things like manufacturing. To take it to the extreme, you could imagine a world where everyone is a doctor and everyone is paid nothing and gets a certain amount of healthcare through their work plan, and robots do everything else for free. Then productivity would be high and hourly compensation would be zero, but material conditions might be great.

>>214126534
Yet here you are, using the internet and being alive.

>>214126440 (OP)
Hang yourself

>>214126896
Knowing the caliber of autist from Brapzil, I can tell you have never actually worked a day in your life to even talk about this.

>>214127348
So just the historical eastern bloc then.

>>214127348
that's literally every commie country ever
to this day, there are kazakhstanis that never seen blacks. they call them "negrs" openly

>>214126900
And during communism too!

>>214126440 (OP)
Romanovs simply was something that is very unRussian. Peter 1 just wanted to be like continental European.

>>214126440 (OP)
communism has plenty of billionares theyre just friends of the dictator/king

>>214126697
americans earn it for an hour, thirdies earn it for a week

>>214128869
Thats because house "Romanov" (Shleswig-Holstein-Gottorp) was very german by that point.

>>214128869
Communism is also unRussian, created by two Germans who lived in the UK, based on German philosophy (Hegelianism) and a lot of French socialist influence as well. Marx also said his revolution would come in a late stage capitalist society so he believed it would happen in Western Europe first, not a peasant one like Russia

>>214129455
This is not true. In underdeveloped and agrarian countries with a peasant majority, communism was a platform for ultranationalism (and this is not surprising, nationalism is a leftist idea). The maoists, the khmer rouge, the jucheists, the viet cong, the african communists - they were all ultranationalists who also committed ethnic cleansing. The bolsheviks were no exception.