>>214167877
From an comparatively grim area right on the other side of the border in Northern Pennsylvania.
Yes, it's incredibly grim up there. The cities are punch way above their weight on violent crime and depression. Cities like Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, and Binghamton are all complete shit dumps full of sadness and snow. There is no hope or future in upstate New York at all. Grim.
Finger Lakes are nice though.