Thread 214167635

>WTF why would this island rather be free and rich instead of poor and unfree?! THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY
Why are Chinese like this?

>>214167635 (OP)
The burden of the chinese "man"

>>214167635 (OP)
Because the CCP tells them Taiwan is poor and unfree. Only the most highly educated know Taiwan is around 5 times richer per capita and know the government has full democracy. They are taught it's exactly the same as it was when Shek was the leader (which is still better than modern day CCP China)

When the CCP finally falls the whiplash to the average Chinese shitting on the CCP and learning about how evil they were in their history books is going to be very funny.

>>214167635 (OP)
Jealousy. It's literally because they chose communism over nationalism and have to live with realizing they picked the wrong one.

>>214168614
The KMT spent 40 years brutally suppressing the native Taiwanese and any hint of Taiwanese nationalism, but now Taiwan LARPs as a country while being basically an American vassal, "investing" $300 billion in bumfuck Arizona just to appease Trump , while the CCP led China is actually espousing Chinese nationalism.

>>214167635 (OP)
>Why are Chinese like this?
Mainland Chinese have been conditioned from birth to believe that Taiwan is an inherent part of China’s territory and that it’s a rebel breakaway province under the illegitimate control of evil separatists/Japanese/Americans/fascists etc.
Tldr: commie Chinese are schizos

Taiwan is backed by white devils, retaking it's power play

>>214168932
The ccp killed 10% of their entire population and is a third world shithole while Taiwan is rich. You even fled China because it's so shit

>>214169112
>Taiwan is an inherent part of China’s territory
It is, even Taiwan itself claims mainland China as an inherent part of its territory

>>214168932
Guess which way all the women flee to.

>>Taiwan is an inherent part of China’s territory
>It is, even Taiwan itself claims mainland China as an inherent part of its territory

>>214169292
>>214169323
Triggered Pvt. Gomez

>>214169204
Chinks are so disingenuous

>>214169532
Its the official Taiwanese position, and has been sunce 1949

>>214168932
Lust provoking image, irrelevant time wasting statement.
--- President Xi Jinping

>>214169204
>>214169557
50 cents have been deposited into your account brave soldier.

>>214169615
I don't work for the US government

>is supposed to represent what a Free & Democratic China is supposed to be

>but is run by a party that doesn't even want to be united with China and the baggage that comes with it and just wants to be by itself

>while the ones who want to do so and have historically wanted to unite China under their banner ( with eventual democratization ) are all CCP sockpuppets

Why do anti-wumaos never do their homework ngfl.

>>214169557
That's nice Chang. No amount of word play will change that Taiwan is a fully independent country

>>214169697
>is supposed to represent what a Free & Democratic China is supposed to be

>but is run by a party that doesn't even want to be united with China and the baggage that comes with it and just wants to be by itself
Both are true

>>214167635 (OP)
Taiwan for China is basically Ukraine for Russia. But a lot of people say Taiwanese people are more civilized and well-mannered than Chinese, I've never ever seen a single westerner says Ukrainians act better than Russians, rather, I heard it's opposite. Why?

>>214169649
Ching Chong

>>214169849
Because Ukraine was used as a torture ground for Russia until the 2010s. It only existed to be a buffer zone. They only just got out of the Russian sphere of influence. On the other hand Taiwan was never owned by the CCP

>>214169697
Taiwan is what a free and democratic China was supposed to be. Now it's a fully independent country. Not hard to understand Chang

>>214169826
They should just drop the gay RoC larp and just be their own country.

>both are true
Doubt so. You can't claim to represent something you don't fully believe in 100%.

>>214169649
>>214169557
>>214169367
>>214169204
>>214168932
>Two countries claim each other's land
>This means they aren't countries!

>>214169935
North Korea represents a communist South Korea but it is also an independent country. Why do wumaos pretend to be retarded?

We're free but poor

>>214169901
But why Russians are more intelligent and well-mannered outside of Russia compared to Ukrainians acting like typical slav? If they are the same people, why do they act differently?

The world would be a better place if the communists gave up the revolution LARP during WW2 and folded into the KMT. The treacherous way they sabotaged the Chinese war effort against Japan is more shameful than the man-made famines during the Great Leap Forward.

>>214170055
>But why Russians are more intelligent
This part is false. Most of Russia's scientists were Ukrainian and even now Ukraine innovates far more despite having 1/5th the population

>>214170138
>Most of Russia's scientists were Ukrainian
They are mostly jews.

>>214169849
Ivan how many times are we going to have this conversation this week. Stop sullying Japanese flag.

>>214167635 (OP)
>This island should sacrifice their entire GDP and male population in my proxy war
Why are westoids like this?

>>214169922
>Taiwan is what a free and democratic China was supposed to be.

By giving up on the Kuomintang's ideology after decades of repressive dictatorship and spitting in the face of Chinese Nationalism? Great rep for a Free China you got there.

>>214170067
KMT shouldn't have been massive corrupt retards from the beginning. How is it that you can still lose the war when the US is literally giving you everything to fight the Communists is beyond me.

>>214170242
>By giving up on the Kuomintang's ideology
False. Modern day Taiwan is the Kuomingtang's ideology as envisioned by it's creator Sun-Yat Sen. You think KMT = Chiang Kai Shek. For a Chink you sure don't even know your own fucking history.

>>214170242
Did everything begin to crack after Yuan Shikai or was it falling apart beforehand? Why didn’t Sun Yatsen stay in power longer?

>>214170242
>How is it that you can still lose the war when the US is literally giving you everything to fight the Communists is beyond me.
The US embargoed the ROC during the civil war. You know this but are a retarded fucking Wumao liar. Die like the 65 other communists under mao

>>214170297
He diedm

>>214170242
>Chink post
>Get's Chink history wrong
Why are they like this? I thought they were supposed to all know their history

>>214169204
> Taiwan itself claims mainland China as an inherent part of its territory
Taiwan hasn’t been serious about this since the Chiang Kai Shek era. Anyways, it’s obvious that China and Taiwan are two separate countries. Anyone who says otherwise is playing mental gymnastics and being disingenuous

>>214170242
Do you really expect there to be zero corruption after the KMT manages to unite all the warlords and ensure total mobilisation? There was bound to be plenty of corruption if the Nationalists wanted to substantially fight against the Japanese. The communists won the civil war by putting a wedge between the nationalists and America after the KMT had been worn down by countless years of fighting and degraded equipment & manpower.

>>214170242
KMT were far less corrupt than CCP. KMT never murdered 40 to 60 million of their own citizens through incompetence.
>US literally giving them everything
US stopped all support of the KMT after ww2 while CCP was getting aid from Russia.
>KMT means Shek
No retard

>>214170335
He stepped down in power for some reason and handed power to Yuan Shikai. Anyways modern Chinese history sucks ass because you can’t have a clear middle-path view of things now without both sides bombarding shit. It’s time to drink some Yerba Mate.

>>214170067
> The treacherous way they sabotaged the Chinese war effort against Japan is more shameful than the man-made famines during the Great Leap Forward.
They didn’t. KMT and CCP were on the same side during the Second Sino-Japanese War

>>214170392
Come on man, you can call the communists retards but not corrupt.
The KMT could not even get their generals to go to war unlike Mao.

arr rook same

Daily reminder that modern Taiwan is LITERALLY the government Sun-Yat San envisioned when he wanted a free and modern China.
>Capitalist government
>But with light socialism in the form of free health care, rent control, food programs, workers rights, ethnostate
Anyone who claims Taiwan today isn't exactly what the KMT wanted are retarded Wumao shills or ignorant golems. The only part that is off that Sun-Yat San wanted it for all of China and right now it's only for Taiwan.

>>214170462
>The CCP isn't corrupt
lol

>>214170462
Corruption was one of the driving forces behind the great famine. People paid off their supervisor to claim they produced twice as much rice as they actually did resulting in the government thinking it had 3 times as much rice than reality (because each chain up the ladder would exaggerate more and more)

>>214170480
The three principles of the people, proposed by Sun Yat-sen, are Nationalism (Minzu), Democracy (Minquan), and People's Livelihood (Minsheng). These principles served as the foundation for China's modernization, encompassing ideals of national sovereignty, popular sovereignty (democracy), and social welfare for all citizens.
Here's a breakdown of each principle:
1. Nationalism (Minzu, 民族):

This principle focuses on achieving national sovereignty and independence for China, free from foreign domination and internal warlordism. It emphasizes unifying the Chinese people and creating a unified, strong nation.
2. Democracy (Minquan, 民權):

This principle is about establishing a government based on the will of the people, or popular sovereignty. Sun Yat-sen envisioned a system where the people had control over the government through rights like the right of initiative, referendum, recall, and election.
3. People's Livelihood (Minsheng, 民生):
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This principle concerns social welfare and economic justice, often described as a form of socialism. It aims to ensure a decent standard of living for all people and to prevent extreme disparities in wealth.

Literally modern Taiwan. Ironically it's more socialist than the capitalist dictatorship of the CCP

>>214170489
Compared to the whatever the fuck was going at the KMT yeah they were a model of transparency.

>>214170344
Each Chinese dynasty burns all history books written by former dynasty. That's the Chinese history.

>>214167635 (OP)
>AAAAAAAAAA this random chinese island is extremely important to me because i am a globohomo faggot upset that the great satan has destroyed their own country and is totally losing global power projection so i am going to seethepost about blowing up the three gorges dam

>>214170567
They literally killed 40 to 60 million people mainly due to corruption.
Recently there have been multiple cases of students bullying or beating other students to death because their parents work for the CCP so they can get away with it. It's literally as corrupt as it gets.

At this point we should be fully vassalizing Taiwan anyway since they're inheriting our entire chip industry

>>214170305
>The US embargoed the ROC during the civil war
Even before they embargoed the nationalists you retarded shitskin, they were literally giving them cash, weapons and everything under the sun to fight off the communists until they started getting their ass handed to them and Washington was beginning to see how assfuck corrupt they were.

>>214170282
>muh Taiwan is actually what Sun Yat Sen wanted
And the nigga wanted all of China to be united lol. Stop citing Wikipedia pages as if that makes you an expert on whatever retardation China was up to, jeetnigger.

>>214170377
>it was totally muh Communists fault that the KMT and Washington had a falling out

>but the KMT were good bois dey dindu nuffin wrong

Nah nigga. You're just retarded and you think fault solely falls on one side and not the faggot who was feeding this retardation to begin with.

>>214170403
It do be like that. One reason why I despise China discourse on the internet is because everyone just seems to see the country in terms of who and who isn't so now you have retards on this thread discounting Taiwan's severance over the idea of unification and still pushing the whole "Taiwan is muh Free and Democratic China". Even though had history played out differently, it would have basically been the PRC on steroids and still subject to glownigger psyops today.

>>214170578
? That isn’t accurate. Usually Chinese dynasties preserve the history of the preceding dynasty and write their own summarised timeline of the rise and fall of the preceding dynasty. Some emperors would order the mass destruction of books like Qin Shi Huang or would scrub some info to make themselves look better, but it isn’t common practice.

>>214170671
Yes like what was said. The only part that wasn't fulfilled was that his dream is only in Taiwan instead of all of China. Stupid faggot Wumao retard

>>214170671
No, they game them money and cash to fight off the Japanese. Holy shit you are fucking retarded.

>>214170629
It does not matter, the communists could actually marshall their resources against their enemies unlike the KMT that had to bend over backwards for a pro japanese landlord class.

>>214170757
>The communists who were getting free money to fight could beat the KMT who just spent all of their resources fighting the Japanese and weren't getting any further support
This is a wumao post. Notice how ignores the fact that the CCP killed 40 to 60 million people due to their corruption?

>>214170674
>? That isn’t accurate. Usually Chinese dynasties preserve the history of the preceding dynasty and write their own summarised timeline of the rise and fall of the preceding dynasty.
Then why do Han dynasties blame Northern stepp dynasties for destroying their history?

>>214167635 (OP)
they should havedeclared independence already. A Republic of Taiwan under the de facto rule of Kuomintang

>>214170619
Calm down Chang. I'm sorry your country is such a shithole

>>214170651
>Loses
It takes 10 years to build a tram station in my neighborhood, that's a tram not a subway, it's essentially a bus stop with a rail. In china it would take 6 months from planning to finish. I'm just butthurt that the west has become a totally incompetent rent-seeking economy based on financial bullshit

>>214170671
>I'm going to say multiple historical falsehoods and hope that no one fact checks me, but even if they do I can just make up more historical falsehoods to shill for my shithole country that I fled

>>214170793
Chang Kai Shek had to be forced at gunpoint to fight the japanese instead of the communists.
Can't blame the communists for not focusing on the japs when their supposed ally has made it clear they want them all dead.

>>214170879
And China is a third world shithole with the same standard of living as Mexico. Go back Chang

>>214170836
Formally declaring independence means likely violence. There is no need.

>>214170885
>CCP shill suddenly tries to move the goal post and change the point after getting BTFO

>>214168932
>the CCP led China is actually espousing Chinese nationalism.
Somebody post the pools with only Chinese females and black males allowed in.

>>214170902
are you guys afraid with all that shit going on Ukraine and Winnie the Pooh?

>>214170964
Chinese aren't as stupid as Russians.

>>214170891
China used to be congo tier like 80 years ago and now the chinese are 1-2 steps behind western technology with a vastly more powerful industrial base. Go drown in an oil field bruce, your country is hot orange russia.

>>214171011
Taiwan and Korea were poorer than China was 80 years ago and now they are some of the richest nations on earth. China was a shithole because of Mao and is still a shithole because of the CCP. It's only slightly less shitty because they stopped being communist. That literally shows are retarded communism and the CCP are. China is still mexico tier.

>>214171011
>Make retarded communism
>Stop doing communism
>WOW WE STOPPED BEING SO POOR WE ARE SO SMART
50 cents not earned

>>214170963
>Jennifer zeng
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Zeng
Maybe get more trustworthy sources than falun gong practicioners

>>214171067
>NOOOOOOO IT'S NOT TRUE EVEN THOUGH THE COLLEGE ADMITTED THEY WERE DOING IT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS WOMAN

>>214171067
>Having our women fuck negroes is good actually because this woman's wikipedia page

>>214170936
The fuckups of the communist party are many, but they managed to end almost a century of civil war and elevate china into the worlds number 2 power.
With the KMT in power, they would have likely remained fragmented and ruled by local strongmen.

>>214171118
With the KMT in power China wouldn't be a shithole and poor like it is today.

>>214171076
>>214171097
>>214171067
>Chinese students upset by ‘preferential treatment’ universities give to foreigners
Locals say they are being treated like second-class citizens on matters like accommodation and even the way they are assessed
China welcomed more than 490,000 overseas students last year, mostly from developing nations


>Some Chinese students say they get a raw deal compared to their foreign counterparts.
In all the years Alex Shu has spent at Capital Normal University in Beijing he has never once used the campus swimming pool. He was always told it was under maintenance – it had been since 2015 – so if he wanted to swim he would have to go to the local gym.

>It came as something as a shock, therefore, when he found out from an online video recently that the university did have a working swimming pool, only it was reserved for international students.

>The pool is at the International Culture Centre and the video clip shows a security guard telling Chinese students about its exclusive status.

>“The centre used to be a hotel before being renovated and reserved for international students,” Shu said. “Mainland students can only get in if they are selected as an international student’s study partner. It’s not fair for us mainland students at all.”

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>>214171064
South korea is a shithole corporate dictatorship which will 1/100 their population in 4 generations because the country is unlivable and both taiwan and sk are american puppet states that are artificially propped up.
>stop doing communism
So why are you so assmad at chicoms? The country is literally controlled by the chinese communist party.

>>214170826
Honestly it’s because looking back Hindsight is 20/20 as well as the Han people being a pretty prideful that hate to be conquered by a different ethnicity. When times were good, there wasn’t much anger against the Qing. Now that they’re aren’t ruled over by them and they were the last dynasty before dynastic rule is abolished, they can point to the steppe nomads as making them fall behind and give them all the blame for all shortcomings. If it were a Han dynasty, they would find another obvious reason other than ethnicity.

I don’t think the conquests of the Mongols or Manchus are more destructive than any succession civil war that happens from one Han dynasty to the next. You don’t see much hatred for the Tang dynasty despite the royalty being part turkic.

Maybe there’s additional special hatred as the Manchus initially tried to Manchurianize the Han before getting Sinicized, leaving our clothes and hairstyles permanently altered. And for Mongols for refusing to embrace the chinese system, having Han adopt mongol clothes, or trying to fuck with the religions here. Most other steppe dynasties usually fully assimilate.

>>214170242
These retards get all their info of Taiwan-China relations from American propaganda, notice how these anons are either American, Pvt. Gomez stationed in Japan, or their countries are American vassals (South Korea, Australia), or Taiwanese delusional enough to think their country won't surrender the minute China declares war.
>>214170282
Sun-Yet-Sen didn't envision China to be a rump-state vassal of America

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>>214171156
>The college """admitted it""" in this falun gong newsrag so it's true and that's why I'm going to spam cuckold porn in every thread

>>214171129
Ruling China is not the same as ruling Taiwan.
Support for Chang Kai Shek was always shaky at best because he could not castrate local landholders like Mao.

>>214167635 (OP)
Why would it be poor?

Shanghai and Shenzhen have a higher GDP/capita than taiwan

If anything it would be richer as a safe place to invest without political turmoil

>>214171156
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>>214171211
To be pro CCP means to be pro cuckold

Here is the Chinese owned article about it

>>214167635 (OP)
>You have to die on USA's behalf just like Ukraine!!!!

I hope they don't fall for the propaganda

>>214171269
>>214171289
>Chink double posts and lies

>>214171174
>>214171269
Taiwan is richer than those cities

>>214171289
Kinmen Island
lol

The 50 cent army posts are getting more and more sad

>>214171285
SAVED

>>214171269
>Taiwan currently earns more than every city in mainland China
Why did you lie Chang?

>>214171285
I'm not pro-CCP, I'm anti-America

>>214171308
>>214171352
Pvt. David-kun needs to work on his shilling

>>214171308
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>>214171396
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/region_rankings_current.jsp?displayColumn=5®ion=030

>>214171285
That article which you failed to share says there is a small pool reserved for international students because the government wants to attract the international elite students, the enormous resort pool and african cuckolding is added by the falun gong mystic retard and most likely the scribbles on it is to prevent reverse image search from finding the source. Go home before you murder a japanese family in a drunk driving collision pvt gomez.
https://sc.mp/4bzs

>>214171445
Based same

A chinese invasion of taiwan would have been so funny and amusing to watch but sadly the world economy depends on china so no one will let it happen

>>214171376
See
>>214171189

>>214167635 (OP)
the existence of china and taiwan BTFOs anyone linking IQ and race or that race has any merit on success

>>214171949
North Korea and South Korea are a better example

Taiwan and China are both successful

>>214172078
china is not successful, atleast unless you consider india successful
having a high GDP because there is a billion of you is not success

>>214167635 (OP)
Why the hell would be china be jealous of taiwan? Taiwan is completely irrelevant and is only known as "not china"
it's completely obvious china wants taiwan just as a "reunification stunt" and make their boomers happy and patriotic
how are you guys so dumb to not figure this out

>>214172094
>going from congo tier to being a great power with the largest manufacturing capacity in the world is not being successful

>>214172094
India is a shithole, China is safe and comfortable to live in

>>214172165
lmao
>>214172160
india is also a "great power" if you only count GDP
china is still a sack of shit and all their "success" is western outsourcing for cheap shit

>>214172183
No one but you is talking about india

>>214172191
yeah because it's the closest other example of a country forcing its way up by having a billion people

>>214169112
I see no difference in the images?

>>214172098
Taiwan is dominating 90% of GPU industry which is the most important part of AI generating.

>>214172098
if taiwan announces an embargo on the whole world the entire world crawls to a halt lmao

>>214172098
> Why the hell would be china be jealous of taiwan?
Taiwan’s existence disproves the narrative that the Chinese people need the CCP to be prosperous

Why don't they just accept US troops in the Island and then declares independence?
From some documentaries i've seen, the majority of the people in the Island doesn't even consider themselves Chinese anymore, just Taiwanese.

>>214172183
Chinas ability to manufacture high technology increases by the day, chinas energy production increases by the day, chinas infrastructure improves by the day, chinas wealth increases by the day, at a rate greater than the rest of the world. I don't know how the fuck you measure success, becoming a declining first world nation?

>>214171623
What’s wrong with countries in Asia choosing to have US military protection?

>>214172183
Is India the largest manufacturing power in the world?

>>214171289
dumb tankie

>>214170619
who are you quoting?

>>214172516
If taiwan was ever at the point of being taken over the us government wants to blow up the factories and ship out all the technical experts, AND the US wouldn't be able to sustain a war with china if the latter decided it was a good time to take taiwan.

>>214172516
How would America react if Russia stationed Chinese troops in Cuba?
>>214172533
What's wrong with countries in Latin America choosing to have Chinese protection?

>>214172516
Why don't they just say "ok we're part of China" and stop worrying about being killed in a usa proxy war

Maybe because the supposed "protection" by the usa has strings attached????????

>>214172574
The absolute state of you lad, acting like a Yank.

>>214172630
> What's wrong with countries in Latin America choosing to have Chinese protection?
Nothing. If they invite PLA troops into their country that’s their choice

>>214172662
How?

>>214172516
US base is nothing but cancerous trojan horse. 90% of Japanese people like America but still we oppose that they still have their bases here.

>>214172698
Why are you acting as if anyone who doesn't tongue yank anus is a communist?

>>214172620
China doesn't have the capabilities nor the balls to take the US in the pacific.

>>214172630
Russia still has a lot of influence in Cuba, it's the whole reason why the US still doesn't trade with them to this day.

>>214172659
Because they clearly don't want to be Chinese anymore, but their own identity.

>>214172700
But Japan lost the war, it's a completely different situation. If it wasn't the US, it would've been the Soviets occupying Japan.

>>214172736
USA can't sustain a war with china, the munitions would run out within a week. Reminder that the US had to back off against yemen, a 3rd world militia.

>>214172659
> ok we're part of China
They’re objectively not. The PRC never has never controlled Taiwan. Taiwan has it’s own government, military, flag, currency, laws etc.
> stop worrying about being killed in a usa proxy war
How is China invading Taiwan a “usa proxy war?” If China invades Taiwan then China will be at fault for starting a conflict, not the US

>>214172733
I’m not

>>214171571
So you admit it's for international students and Chinese girls
LOL

>>214172736
> But Japan lost the war, it's a completely different situation. If it wasn't the US, it would've been the Soviets occupying Japan.
The US occupation of Japan ended in 1952. Japan pays for US military protection now because it’s cheaper (and less controversial) than heavily investing into the Self Defence Forces

>>214171561
Not a real source
PPP cope
Nice try Chang

>>214172831
>let's put China in a disadvantaged position hehe
>Hey why is China attacking me? This is China's fault!

>>214172078
China is a third world shithole

>>214172870
You called the German a tankie for hating America

>>214171934
>>214172165
>Being a third world shithole is good because we used to be an even bigger third world shithole

>>214172098
Because China is a third world shithole and Taiwan is rich

>>214171561
>Poor people points

>>214172078
China is just NK but bigger.

>>214172529
According to which statistics?

>>214172620
America would just BTFO all their ships. The war would last 2 weeks at most

>>214172659
Because China is a third world shithole and no one wants to become a third world shithole if they themselves are rich

>>214172881
>Chinese girls
No, you are the mentally ill cuckold obsessed with black men.

>>214173002
He's a Chink because he clearly is and so are you Chink

>>214173074
Lost against yemen award

>>214172529
China is a third world shithole. Taiwan is a first world paradise

>>214173129
Seething. The picture clearly shows otherwise

>>214173146
I'm laughing uncontrollably at the thought of it

>No we won't help you in any way. In fact we will destroy your factories before we leave, but always remember WE'RE PROTECTING YOU

>>214173002
No I called him a tankie for pushing tankie talking points

>>214173199
You mean the random photo from some water park the falun gong witch attached to the article? Watch out or the CCP will come and harvest your organs

>>214172982
>>let's put China in a disadvantaged position
Disadvantaged position? Are you delusional? China has one of the largest economies as a result of the world trading with them. Not to mention they’ve got away with being the world’s biggest IP theft. Meanwhile Taiwan can’t even be called “Taiwan” at the Olympics because China would boycott it. If anyone is in a disadvantaged position it’s Taiwan

>>214173233
You presented no alternative thesis for what will happen to the people of Taiwan in case the strategic ambiguity card is flipped and so I will continue ignoring you . Denmark did the right thing and just gave up when Third Reich Germany attacked, otherwise their country would have been destroyed like Ukraine for no benefit

>>214173365
> You presented no alternative thesis for what will happen to the people of Taiwan in case the strategic ambiguity card is flipped
The US and Japan will come to Taiwan’s aid in the case of a Chinese attack
> Denmark did the right thing and just gave up when Third Reich Germany attacked
Remember how that war ended, kraut?
> their country would have been destroyed like Ukraine for no benefit
Ukraine is being destroyed because of Russian aggression. Ukrainians have no choice but to defend themselves

>>214173146
who said this and why

>>214173140
You're break's over, Pvt. Gomez, get back to cleaning the barracks.

>>214172544
>factories owned by western countries in their soil means they are smart and doing good actually
absolute chang retardation

>>214173309
>>214171623
Oh really? China is becoming richer because it produces tangible goods people in other countries want to have? How evil. We should somehow be able to switch that trade off, like having a chain of military bases around the country so we can blackmail them. That's not a disadvantaged position though, the Taiwanese just chose to die for our morally justified cause on the other side of the planet!

>>214173457
>The US and Japan will come to Taiwan’s aid in the case of a Chinese attack
Will Japan really?

>>214173537
> We should somehow be able to switch that trade off, like having a chain of military bases around the country
Considering they’re threatening to start WW3 over Taiwan yes

>>214173529
>factories owned by western countries in their soil
That's not true at all, for example all the iphone factories in China are owned by Foxconn, and operated by Foxconn, they just get licences from Apple to make iphones for them.

>>214173491
The usa said it to save face when they turn around and do nothing as China makes sure it can continue to trade with European countries

>>214173457
Why would the US come to taiwans aid when it's not coming to ukraines aid?

>>214173537
You're forgetting that your supposedly "rich" country is claiming "undeveloped country" status while massively exploiting the international postal system.

can any of you spot the difference between a chinese chink and a taiwanese chink

>>214173562
Yes
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/japan-expm-taiwan-01092024031916.html

>>214173579
Nobody takes this threat seriously. The only way china would consider taking taiwan was if ww3 already broke out or the odds were so stacked in their favor that starting ww3 would be pointless.

>>214173579
This is circular logic
>Considering this guy will try to self-defense before you tie his arms behind his back, it's best to just try to tie his arms behind his back!

>>214173608
Taiwan is considered more important than Ukraine

>>214173677
Taro Aso is a retired politician, I'll believe China will defend Taiwan in a war against China when a sitting Japanese president says so

>>214173713
USA wants to move chip manufacturing to the US, if they think they can they'll drop taiwan like a hot potato

>>214173683
> Nobody takes this threat seriously.
It should be taken seriously
>>214173685
If China attacked Taiwan they would be the aggressor. Do you not understand this?

>>214173733
Former PM Shinzo Abe also expressed support for defending Taiwan

>>214173650
I don't care in any way about that. All I want is free trade between two consenting countries without some envious chud standing around with a knife in hand, ready to interrupt it

>>214173677
>2024
This was before the USA demonstrated that they're retarded, unreliable and hate japan and the rest of the world

>>214173162
China lost to Vietnam in 2 weeks and lost every war of the last 400 years

>>214173765
Trying to restrain someone who did nothing wrong is also aggression you absolute retard

>>214173291
Chink damage control.

>>214173506
China is a third world shithole. That is why you fled

>>214173759
Chip manufacturing isn’t the only reason Taiwan is strategically important. If the CCP takes over Taiwan they’ll be able to shut down free and open trade in the Indo-Pacific region. China would be in a position where it could blackmail other nations into doing what the CCP wants

>>214173819
The USA hasn't won a war since ww2 and that was when it was the factory of the world, like what china is now.

>>214173537
China is as poor as Mexico

>>214173806
How is that relevant?

>>214173894
How so?

>>214173830
China is actively threatening to take over Taiwan. They’re the aggressor. Tankie idiot

>>214173652
yes, the Chinese one is eating a dog in filth and poverty

>>214173924
Because if japan realizes US support is waning the last thing they want is to fight a war of their own against china.

>>214173906
USA won Korean war. nice try Chink. China hasn't won a war in 400 years and is a third world shithole

>>214173830
China is a third world shithole trying to turn Taiwan into a third world shithole

>>214173652
Obviously not, they’re literally the same ethnicity of Chinese people. They even speak the same language. I don’t support the CCP but Chinese who think that they are “one of the good ones” are delusional. Like for example if a war ever breaks out between China and America, then Chinese Americans will be put into concentration camps just like the Japanese were in WW2.

>>214173999
>saar we won gorean war which is why NK exists

>>214173906
Also when European countries already fought each other in all out industrial scale war for several years that they prepared for years before

Europe should really think hard who is most likely to want to repeat history. Really nice that so far neither Russia nor Europe fell for the bait to destroy each other only for (((someone else))) to profit from it (only Ukraine was stupid enough)

Same situation sor Japan, Korea, Taiwan, China

The missing peace to the puzzle is all of the former making an alliance against the troublemaker

>>214173894
> they’ll be able to shut down free and open trade in the Indo-Pacific region
China is the biggest exporter in the world, why would they want to do that?

>>214167635 (OP)
They are buck broken

>>214174171
>North Korea invades SK
>Get's pushed out
America won the Korean war. Seethe

>>214174294
Imagine, a world without americans, israelis or gulfies...

>>214174025
And for what benefit are the Chinese supposedly doing this in your schizo worldview? How will they profit from impoverishing a part of their own country?

>>214174129
Taiwanese are actually nice and friendly. Chinese are horrible. I lived in both for around 6 months each. Night and day difference

>>214174378
What was the benefit of China killing 10% of it's population?

>>214174171
Did North Korea take over SK? No
Stupid faggot Chink

>>214174432
This. CCP cope is next level. Korea war was a total victory and all commies can do is seethe

>>214174514
The difference is that China is like the exact opposite of this. Every part that was apart of the CCP is third world where every part that wasn't is first world

>>214174542
In all of China's history the coastal areas were much richer than the interior. The same is also true for Europe and basically everywhere ever

>>214174542
>Le third world
Every american who visits a tier 1 city sharts their pants over how much better run it is compared to burgerstan

>>214174584
But the coastal areas of China are still third world shitholes. Taiwan and Hong Kong are faaaaaaaar richer than coastal China. nice try Chang, China is a shithole thanks to the CCP

>>214174604
LOL

>>214174390
Stop coping, actual White people can’t tell the difference between them, much like Asians can’t tell the difference between Denmark and Austria.

>>214174657
I can because Taiwanese aren't sub human street shitters

>>214174584
CCP cope.

>Wumao posts are 90% easily fact checked lies
Why are they like this?

Every time you see a Chinese shill post remember this image. This is the shithole they are saying you should be jealous of

>>214174676
How exactly

>>214174883
>>214174778
I can’t wait until China sinks your aircraft carriers.

>>214174974
They aren't extremely rude. They don't eat dog. They act human.

>>214175087
Shhhhhh i'm sorry but you will never have Kinmen Chang

>>214175137
Don't you have some fentanyl to die from?

>>214175245
Shhh please stop seething. No amount of seething will get you Kinmen Ching Chong

China so shameful, lose to Taiwan

How many Wumaos are itt today? Is this a new record? Why are they spending so much time on /int/ today?

Lost colonies: Philippines, Panama Canal Zone

Wars lost or abandoned: Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan

Interventions without lasting control: Iran, Cuba, Lebanon, Nicaragua

Occupied but returned: Okinawa

>>214175137
That's a pretty vague point. So if I meet a polite chinese I need call him taiwanese and I meet a rule taiwanese I need call him chinese? That doesnt make sense.

>>214175586
The funny thing you are so obnoxious you get the opposite result, you make them look nicer when compared to you

>>214175586
>NOOOOO YOU CAN ONLY SHILL FOR THE JEW APPROVED UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

>>214168932
Okay, but the native Taiwanese spent thousands of years eradicating the native negrito population too

>>214175648
Lol Chang is really seething about the kinmen now

>>214175866
>Polite Chinese
Don't exist

>>214175947
I'm sorry Chang..... but the Kinmen will never be yours no matter how asshurt you are

>>214175885
So he makes you seethe so much you will get kinmen back?

>>214174676
>HERRO GAIJIN YES WE ROOK THE SAME AND SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE AND WE ARE RITERARRY THE SAME GROUP BUT JUST LIVING ON AN ISLAND BUT WE ARE TOTARRY DIFFERENT PEOPLE OK?!?!
Why the dishonesty? It’s 4chan you can just say you hate chinks nobody will mind you don’t have to virtue signal like this

>>214176356
Chinese eat dog and shit on the floor. Taiwanese don't. Chinese aren't human. Taiwanese are

It's always amusing seeing VPN and expats talk absolute nonsense.

TW is not nationalistic at all, it is also not trad at all.

It's basically a globohomo center, undeniably so.

>>214176434
I'm sorry Chang. No matter how much you seethe at superior Taiwan you will still be a shithole and NEVER get the kinmen

Not only is China the gayest country on earth, it also banned all religion, burned down most of it's temples and banned all religious holidays including Chinese new year all for 40 years. All so they can have gay sex.

>>214176451
Your opinion matters not, Whitoid shit.

>>214176390
I think the chinks are too nice to their neibor. Since they didnt throw other two nukes on you. I think they are fairly more chilling than you.

>>214176640
>I think they are fairly more chilling than you.
This is the greatest ESL wumao they could send

>>214176709
Get out of Japan, you ZOGbot

>having literally homofaggot stuff saved on his hard drive

Bleak

>>having literally homofaggot stuff saved on his hard drive
>
>Bleak

>>214176356
People hate chinese because they torture animals, have no respect for life, ruin our internet, are extremely rude and dirty, try to spread their shitty communism, eat the bugs, own nothing. This doesn't apply to Taiwanese.

>>214167635 (OP)
Rich? China is 2nd biggest gdp. Most mainlander has more properties than taiwanese rebels.

>>214176769
You are Russian or jeet?
>>214176737
You most likely are a jeet.

I do suffer from quite extreme jeet fatigue. this is a jeet board. It's over.

>>214176815
>torture animals, have no respect for life, ruin our internet, are extremely rude and dirty, try to spread their shitty communism, eat the bugs, own nothing.
All things the usa does

>>214176709
I never say chinks are good. But all you do is downgrading japan and taiwan 's credibility in regards to china. You are probably pajeet or Seamonkey because even if you think chink are subhuman, the rational japanese will not trigger them since they have the nuke.

>>214176846
>NO U
lol Chang

>>214176640
>>214176709

>People deny we are invaded by Wumaos when this is their Englisha bility

>>214176927
Yep. Not sure what happened but they have really increased their shills lately

>>214175648

We should have kept the Philippines and Panama.

I would get to suck on lots of Latino-Asian (Philippines) And Latino-Carribean (Panama)

Dicks!

Latinos and Asians are so fucking hot.

>>214174883
Im suprised Guangdong isn't more green, its one of the most prosperous and prbly wealthiest province

>>214167851
Why does everyone assume that the fall of the dictatorship in China and introducing democracy instantly means going the Germany route i.e. shitting on their own country as much as possible and sucking up to the Americans

Taiwan the chinese island controlled by rebels

China has fallen.

>SAAR CHINA IS SPAMMING
>thread segues into spamming the same 10 year old china webms by some ass pained american
Delicious seethe

>>214176836
jeets don't like china (and also usually try to imply they are on similar levels of sneedvelopment)

>>214177294
Don't spend that credit in one place

>SAAR CHINA IS SPAMMING
>thread segues into spamming the same 10 year old china webms by some ass pained american
>Delicious seethe

>>214177374
im saving up for a new nobel peace prize

>>214177410
8% of China's male population all use a single gay dating app. By far the gayest nation on earth

>>214177410
This is clearly a sign of freedom. Freedom to marry whoever you want (except children because that infringes on their freedom to not be sex baby incubator slaves).

China so gay

yum soy

It's over. China won

>>214175648
Reminder

>>214176927
what is a wumao

>>214177857
50 cent party, poor chinese paid to shitpost on the internet in favor of the chinese communist party

I think China maybe wont win against US in this new cold war but honestly in the long term I'm not sure due to how bad things are becoming in the US

>>214175034
ohnononononono
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>214178168
21st century of humiliation face

>>214174883
>>214177920
there are so many of them that I gave up, but it's refreshing to see anons dunking on them

>>214167851
>When the USSR finally falls the whiplash to the average Russian shitting on the USSR and learning about how evil they were in their history books is going to be very funny.
This is how stupid you sound
Some nations are naturally evil

>>214167635 (OP)
is china poor today?

>>214167704
>Only the most highly educated know Taiwan is around 5 times richer per capita
unfair comparison. maybe compare shanghai with taiwan and you'll see it's around the same

>>214178672
Yes

>>214178687
Strange form of Chink cope

>>214178765
taiwan's population is 23 million
taiwan is mostly urban

so what you are telling me is that in china, if we look at urban centers like shanghai and beijing and shenzhen, we would see that they are worse off than the people in taiwan?

>>214178687
In that case it's not way too different but Taiwan is still richer

>>214178814
>it's ok China is a shithole because a lot of people live there
Strange form of Chink cope

>>214178844
Don't even give them the cope. They have to compare their best city to Taiwan's average. That is how pathetic the CCP is

>>214177410
based

>>214178814
So 1% of China doesn't live in poverty so it's equal to Taiwan where everyone is as wealthy as the 1% least poor Chinese.
Insane cope

>>214179006
I didn't say it was equal
I said it wasn't a fair comparison
it isn't

if you can't admit that much you are a moron

>>214179077
Chink cope is hilarious

>>214179077
>You can't compare a small country to a big country because Mao said so. You can only compare Taiwan to the 1% best of China

>>214171189
>American propaganda
There are only two sides. The American side and the subhumans. If they're smart, they'll get on board with the American side. Chinese aren't actually people.

Chinese seethe at Taiwan because it proves the CCP only hurts China

Funny how the CCP shills flee the moment the thread hits bump limit. Their job was to get it to bump limit with shill posts

>>214175034
RoC lost Hainan despite the PRC having basically no navy, which is far more humilating imo