Thread 214236882

I was in Lisbon and was treated nicely even tho I’m Brazilian.
It’s full of Africans and Indians now too.

>>214236882 (OP)
what do Brazilians feel when they see Lisbon, is it like
>woah, my ancestors built it
do you feel like you share historical continuity with Portugal, that history of Brazil before Brazil's independence is just history of Portugal?

>>214236937
I felt some connection.

>>214236937
what do Poles feel when they see Moscow, is it like
>woah, my ancestors built it
do you feel like you share historical continuity with Russia, that history of Poland before Poland's independence is just history of Russia?

>>214238829
that's a retarded comparison, Poland was only occupied by Russia, while Brazil was founded by Portugal

>>214239000
What were the previous 10,000 years of human occupation?

>>214240317
idk, I asked you how you feel about that. I mean, do you learn about Portugal's history in let's say the year of 1200 in Brazilian schools and it is shown to you as "your history"? Do you feel like let's say the reconquista is part of the Brazilian history too?

>>214236882 (OP)
we've always had Africans because of our ex colonies, they used to be alright for the most part but this newest wave of africans from like the last 10 years is not good at all

>>214240373
We don't learn anything about the history of Portugal, either before 1500 or after. Only the history of Brazil. We also learn about pre-Columbian peoples. Basically, civilizations that existed before the arrival of the Iberians.
The only thing we learn about Portugal is stuff related to Brazil, so for example when the Portuguese court came to Brazil fleeing Napoleon, for example.

>>214240606
ok thanks for explanation
though im rather surprised, i thought you have a sense of historical continuity with Portugal

Foi nas tabernas de Alfama

>>214240373

Elementary School
4th grade
Indigenous peoples of Brazil; Colonial Brazil (daily life, work, slavery, and resistance); Independence; cultural diversity.
Assessments: dossier of sources (images/objects), dramatization of resistance.

5th grade
Brazil Empire and Republic (general concepts); citizenship and rights; city and environment.
Assessments: Brazilian timeline, citizen letter to public authorities.

6th grade – Antiquity and Amerindian worlds
Native peoples of the Americas; Ancient Africa; Mediterranean (Greece/Rome); “Orients” (Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, China).
Assessments: analysis of myths and objects, comparative map of civilizations.

7th grade – Middle Ages and American/African formations
Middle Ages (Europe, Africa, Islamic world); African kingdoms; pre-colonial America; Brazil before 1500.
Assessments: medieval newspaper (sources), case study on trade and cities.

8th grade – Modern Age and Colonial Brazil
Great voyages; colonization and slavery in Brazil; resistance (quilombos); Enlightenment; independence in America.
Assessments: mock trial (Atlantic slave trade), cartography of the colony.

9th grade – Contemporary Brazil in the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries
Brazilian Empire Republic; Vargas Era; Dictatorship (1964–85) and redemocratization; World Wars, Cold War; globalization; human rights.
Assessments: local memorial (dictatorship), infographic of social indicators.

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>>214240835
>sense of historical continuity with Portugal
We don't and that is by design.
Mulatto commies ans freemason faggots want us identifying with worthless, primitive brownoids instead of based Conquistadores
Brazil will always be a shithole

>>214240926
2/2

High School

1st grade

Worlds of work (18th–19th centuries): revolutions, industrialization, slavery/abolition, and citizenship in Brazil.
– Product: case study with data and sources.
Science, technology, and society: press, electricity, digital technology, and power.
– Product: curatorial essay (display of sources).
Formation of the Brazilian nation state and regional conflicts.
– Product: interactive narrative map.
Africa and diasporas: Black Atlantic, cultures, and resistance.
– Product: podcast/short documentary.

2nd series
Totalitarianism, democracies, and political culture in the 20th century.
– Product: comparative dossier of sources.
Latin America and Republican Brazil: populism, dictatorships, transitions.
– Product: annotated timeline.
Culture, arts, and media: identity, race, gender, and memory.
– Product: critical zine/portfolio.
Territory, environment, and socio-environmental conflicts in Brazil.
– Product: proposal for local intervention.

3rd Grade

Dictatorship and redemocratization in Brazil: memory, transitional justice.
– Product: digital/local memorial.
Human rights and digital citizenship (misinformation, ethics, and networks).
– Product: verification guide and best practices.
Geopolitics of globalization and Brazil in the world (economy, science, culture).
– Product: policy brief.
Public history and life project (the historian's craft and careers).
– Product: final skills portfolio.

>>214240939
>vira-lata

>>214236937
>>woah, my ancestors built it
Only if they are Lebanese-Brazilians. Lisbon was an ooga booga stone age shithole until Sidonians arrived and turned it into a respectable facet of civilization.

>>214240964
that feels a lot like American curriculum desu

>>214241085
With the difference that he is totally critical of globalism and liberalism and advocates socialism.

>>214241137
is it only like that under Lula?

>>214236937
my ancestors probably didn't build that because they were military not peasants

>>214241153
No. This has been happening since 1932, to be precise.
But our military friends were a big help in this, so when democracy was restored in 1988, any hatred of the right wing and globalist liberalism was welcome.

>>214241033
I'm White and proud you fucking nigger.
We came here to develop this shithole and prospered IN SPITE of the shitty conditions and low-IQ population trying to drag us down.
I'm not saying I'm a fan of modern limp-wristed eurocucks (you), but I owe absolutely nothing to this shithole and the animals that inhabit it.
I hope Russia tears you a new one btw.

>>214241190
Peasantry works fields and raise animals. They don't build anything but the tools they use to work the land, and the ramshackle roof over their head.
Structures in cities were built by a conflux of skilled laborers. The whole thing was overseen by a master mason/engineer, who coordinated with journeymen that led teams of military and aspirants as the bottom level labor force.

Why the fuck would you use a shit-eating peasant to make a 3 story building? Are you retarded? Do you know how hard it is to work a stone and work it well? To place stones properly? Do you know how expensive the tooling is to do it efficiently? The maintenance required of those tools? The organization and efficient transport of raw material? You would entrust that to fucking peasants? Who the hell watches over the fields and the animals in the meantime? Your ancestors were certainly not kings, that's for sure. No civilization would last long under your discernment.

>>214240373
Brapzil and brapzilian are a magical ppl that spawn in brapzil(no connection to PT) and were visited by a PT king and is whorish SP waifu once upon a time
>t.brapzil """""educational"""" """sistem""""

>>214241054
they even say lisboa was named by them meaning 'good port'

>>214241685
>>214241811
Wrong. We only learn about who was in Brazil. Two different things.

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you're descended from european sissyfugees of wars, you pinky clitted subhuman rsrs


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you're the most sissified dysgenic subhuman to ever walk the Earth rsrs


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not even your own women want to breed with you rsrs


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>>214240939


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your grandpa was a tranny subhuman with a leaky clitty that jumped on the first boat to South America when the war broke out rsrsrs


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it's in your dna to be a sissified subhuman and a perpetual cuck for Brazilian men rsrsrs

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>>214242022
>>214242213
>500 years
>never rebelled against it
lmao

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>500 years
>forcibly feminized by his own women
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rsrs

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>>214240835
>i thought you have a sense of historical continuity with Portugal
We used to, but history just naturally drew us apart. Until the first republic, at least, we had some cultural interchange, and even though some intellectuals value Portugal's contribution to Brazil (Gilberto Freyre, Ariano Suassuna, etc.), we like to think of ourselves as an original, exquisite tropical civilization; but then again, what constitutes Brazilian identity is a constant and yet unfinished debate.

>>214242213
My ancestor were imported here before the war, after the end of slavery, because you brownoids are too stupid to do any task that needs planning even 5 minutes in the future.
We are the reason you're not living in a Liberia-tier shithole right now (or perhaps you are, in your favela).
No need to thank me.

>>214241945
Do they, at least, teach you guys about Camões in portuguese language class?

>>214236882 (OP)
>even tho I’m Brazilian
Did you really expect to be mistreated? People here are too passive and are not inclined to start shit with people. Unironically the people more likely to mess with you are other brazilians

>>214244432
>Did you really expect to be mistreated?
I'm White and well-off. Moving to North Portugal in the near future.
Maybe I need to touch some grass, but I'm fully prepared to be treated like a subhuman nigger simply because of the way I speak. I would not blame you though, brazilians are subhumans without a shred of common sense and the bad reputation is 100% deserved.
Beats living in a brown nation though.

>>214244425
Only in classical literature. But only books by Brazilian authors are covered. Basically, the books you have to read are all Brazilian, and then they talk about Camões in literature when you learn about style and so on.

2025

Marília de Dirceu – Tomás Antônio Gonzaga
Quincas Borba – Machado de Assis
Os ratos – Dyonélio Machado
Alguma poesia – Carlos Drummond de Andrade
A Ilustre Casa de Ramires – Eça de Queirós
Nós matamos o cão tinhoso! – Luís Bernardo Honwana
Água Funda – Ruth Guimarães
Romanceiro da Inconfidência – Cecília Meireles
Dois irmãos – Milton Hatoum

>>214244432
>Did you really expect to be mistreated
he hoped he'd get some content for his tiktok
"Brazilians mistreated in Portugal" probably immediately gets you huge attention on the BR internet

>>214244874
Nice stack, i guess Machado Assis takes that major role.
kek they forgot Chico Buarque tho

>>214239000
Stupid idiot, your ancestors built moscow, russians ruined it

>>214236882 (OP)
>It’s full of Africans and Indians now too.
probably felt like home

>>214241685
lel

>>214246619
Not wrong, but you're a french cuck.
Paris is filthier than a Brazilian favela
So shut the fuck up, Adongo

>>214240606
>We don't learn anything about the history of Portugal
Anon, I... We learn about them before Brazil, half of Brazilian history is about Portugal, and then we even learn a bit about the Iberian Union during Napoleon's serial rape. Not to mention half of the books mentioned in Literature class are Portuguese

>>214236882 (OP)
Some time ago I sent a job application to some company in Lisboa, then later I realised that the CEO's name was Muhammad and that half of the workforce was made up of indians, some of them working from India + the rest portuguese
This is true btw
I feel tempted to mention the company's name but I don't wanna doxx myself, I'll just say it was a software company