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France has fallen

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>>214250587 (OP)
rookie numbers

>>214250587 (OP)
>Economists say we should tax billionaires
>Some billionaires ask for more taxes
>French people think we should tax them more
>Government decides to absolutely never tax rich people and to implement Thatcher-tier retardation moves to bleed our every single non-billionaire inhabitant
What could go wrong?

>>214252374
don't tax the rich

>>214252374
Should've taken in more immigrants, chud.

>>214250587 (OP)
encore deux semaines

>>214252374
the rich will simply flee to a despotic tax haven shithole like here.
it's a tough situation

>>214252374
Ye man, that is for sure the issue.
I'm sure taking in a billion subhumans, having a billion retarded useless old "people", and a bunch of worthless women who do not have children but do manage to leech off of the state is not your issue.
Never mind, I am projecting. That's the issue here. Frabce is special, you'll be fine if you just tax the rich some more haha

>>214252374
>just tax rich people to fund more niggers who will never have a job in their lives and just pop an extra five monkeys to play insufferable music and litter in the park bro
I've been to Paris senpai, the billionaires are not the problem. You have half of Africa grafted on to you, you have given them citizenship rights and social security, and you are not getting rid of them.
At this point the Caliphate of France would be the good ending, the bad ending is colder Haiti.

>>214250587 (OP)
UK too.

Why are European countries all going bankrupt?

Anyways, more aid to Israel and Ukraine!

>>214254410
Refute it

>>214253675
>Deal with slightly higher taxes
>or be forced to learn Anglais
tough choices

>>214253808
>>214254410
Do you rip off everything from crazed right wing blogs or twitter?

>>214254507
The invasive pests get welfare, why does the inage show it not having anything on the left?

>>214252374
OUR PUBLIC SPENDING IS 56% OF THE GDP RETARD
DO YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE 100%?

STOP WASTING ALL OUR MONEY FUCKING MONKEY

>>214254549
You think everything is just welfare? fucking retard how old are you?

>>214254507
The nigger is in the room because the rich guy made him enter. The rich guy used to have 60 cookies and the worker 40. Now the worker have to accept lower wages to not loose his job to the nigger.

Another question?

>>214254466
Because the WEF/Davos crowd was told to. Global communism through control of the monetary supply. Who needs sovereignty from the central planners when the 4th turning makes nations incompatible with their AI god. Now get in the pod.

>>214254507
neither guy has a cookie anymore, the worker has the promise of a cookie he might get eventually

>>214254553
>OUR PUBLIC SPENDING IS 56% OF THE GDP RETARD
and? France isn't really exceptional on spending. Many states are within that range

>>214253675
No, they will just move to Belgium where the income tax for the gains made with capital is 0%. It take 8 months to become a Belgian.

If that is not enough, the Lichtenstein is even better.

Both are member of the EU and moving there is fast and easy.
It's not if we should tax the rich or not, but if we can or not. And we can't. Not without leaving the EU first.
This is by design. Who do you think wanted the EU? The people?

>>214254605
>The rich guy used to have 60 cookies and the worker 40.
Not even close.

>>214254605
Please french bros start another revolution. We need you, germans are way too bootlicking to ever do it
>>214254549
>Careful mate hes taking half of your cookie
>>214254621
With the contract of giving back the rich guy 1.5 cookies in 50 years

who will give money to Mahmoud and Obungu their benefits now????

>>214254575
>>214254528
Leeching little shitskin
https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/i/5069E/hvorfor-forteller-ikke-mediene-hva-en-ikke-vestlig-innvandrer-koster
Each one of your worthless insects costs Norway 4.1 million NOK through your lifetime.
Send back 244 shitskins in Norway and you have saved a billion NOK.

>>214250587 (OP)
They have like 30 million refugees and immigrants at this point, why don't they just put them to work and fastrack them to french citizenship.

>>214254699
How much does tax evasion cost norway

>>214254642
And? And the public hospitals are closing and can't deal with all the sick people because they are dry of money. Education is in the trash bin and the few teachers we have are paid almost the minimum wage.

AND THIS COST 56% OF THE GDP!
More taxes will only mean that more money will be wasted, moron.

>>214254575
All those unfunded liabilities are a problem. Not only does it reduce the amount that the government can loot from the treasury, its also getting worse due to government action. Its like they are trying to overwhelm social services to prove a point or something.

>>214254670
We had entire village where all the workers were fired in just one year while Italians and Spaniards took the jobs of the French for less money.

This was before the massive immigration wave from Africa.

>>214254721
Our president changed the definition of unemployed so now we don't have any unemployed person in France.

>>214254732
Ask SSB. All their statistics are open and free. Come report back

>>214254735
Turn a few of those yachts on the riviera into floating hospitals
>>214254763
The point is you and me should be serfs in the new techno feudalist order

En France, on laisse en repos ceux qui mettent le feu, et on persécute ceux qui sonnent le tocsin.

>>214254575
We have massive housing projects made with public money that house millions of people who are on benefit.
Of course they work. Without paying taxes. And while receiving tax money.

They are "good for our economy" you see. Anyway, we are out of money.

>>214254798
I cant be bothered to read long documents rn, but an estimate i could find quick rn says norway loses about 1.6 billion a year to tax evasion

>>214254799
Pretty much as I said here. >>214254617

Its going to be hilarious when it all crashes and burns, and we all suffer because of their ego and our disinterest.

>>214254788
Is this the fabled JVPITERIAN spirit of Macron that everybody alludes to? I always knew he was a faggot for nigger cock like a good Eurogoy

>>214254410
>>214253808
You can have more than one problem
Who do you think is importing migrants to erode the middle class private property ownership by distributing their taxated wealth and housing to new consumers in the shape of brown welfare leeches?
Ze billionaires and jews and whatnot.
They cheapen the labour, they erode the middle class, they centralize capital and wealth and amplify it while creating more accesible labour-commodity it can access

>>214254799
The debt is 4 trillions. It would take 4 millions yachts to pay it. We have about a hundred yach to steal.
And we both know that once you will run out of rich people to steal, you will come for the less rich people, like Zimbawe.

You can not just steal things and waste the money, I know you want the fast cash but it won't last and the consequences will.

Beside, the yachs can leave in just one day, it take a year to make a law.
You CAN not ax rich people because they have a high mobility, this is why they aren't taxed anywhere. Only the workers can be taxed.

Of course we SHOULD tax them a lot moere but we CAN not. And when you win an election, you spend the money, you CAN't tax the rich and I pay the price.

>>214254890
Explain to me why not a single person want to go after both tax fraud and social fraud. Nobody ever explained that point to me.

>>214254890
Oh wow, we only lose like 1300 times as much as that taking care of non Western insects

>>214254891
No worries they already got bunkers on private islands. Wont affect them. With any luck theyll even manage to leave the planet before it all goes down. Makes you feel all warm inside doesnt it

>>214252374
Macron got rid of the ISF, a nominal wealth tax, and replaced it with a narrower real estate tax which is easy to dodge and reduced the corporate tax rate which has been very painful for public spending
Macron does not have the tools to deal with this issue
He is a neoliberal ideologue and all he will do is lead France further into disaster
Remember when Macron capitulated to the RN in 2023 on immigration and Marine Le Pen celebrated it as an ideological victory?
What has that done?
It was designed specifically to allow businesses who apparently couldn't find local workers to import them in

>>214255004
Can you source that from the SSB?

NAFO chihuahuas took massive loans so they could buy unitedstatian weapons and send them to Ukraine in the hope of destroying Russia so they could plunder it and revitalize their dying economies. Not everything is going according to plan. My dad works at the IMF btw.

Hahaha

Pay debnts, frogs


LooooLLlLLlL

>>214254972
You cant tax the rich anyways since their wealth is mostly not tangible. You seize 100% of their shit and you find its 95% stock. Which is all inflationary in its value. The only real way to return the wealth is to go back to a currency backed by real assets. They are "wealthy" because we pretend they are.

>>214255042
More importantly, when he was in the SOCIALIST government, he created a law about work which basically made the workers slaves to their bosses. And he blamed the arab guy for this.
Then, as a president, his first action was to give 40 billions annually to the CAC40. He got as many niggers and sandniggers in the country as possible to depreciate the wages and told the cops to beat any taxpayer who protest.

>>214250587 (OP)
@grok explain this in fortnite terms

>>214255004
I dont follow your maths? The 1.6 billion was in USD, in case that matters
>>214255001
Good question really. I can only speak for myself, im not really as annoyed at some idiot scamming the govt out of a few hundred bucks as i am at some billionaire refusing to give a fair share while he already lives like a king
But youre obviously right, both are bad and shouldnt happen, one just seems a lot less understandable than the other

>>214255027
I dream that those psychopaths actually fuck off from this planet so I can actually get some peace, if I dont end up getting canabalized that is.

>>214255091
Kek based greek
>>214255224
I dream of lynching them really.

>>214255113
Yeah, this too. Jeff Bezos have a taxable income of $70k. Per year.

In France we have a club called the Siècle who contain all the richet people of the country and the minister of finance, whoever this is.
It end up with the rich people not being taxed. Because they are the ones who make the law.
Don't forget that Internet is controlled by a law written by Vivendi.

It's not if you should tax them or not, it is if you can tax them or not. And you can't.
But the left does want the free easy and fast money that is just taken from somebody else.

So guess what? Every single time, I end up being that guy, and no, the next time won't be different. So instead of raising taxes when 56% of the economy is the action of the state, reduce the waste.

What we need is the AFUERA! or the doge.

>>214255080
They are absolutely despairing now that russia is winning the war
I cant imagine the near apocalyptic effects ukraine going to the gutter will have for the EU and NAFO credibility

>>214253808
French people of african origin have done a lot for france, did you watch the world cup in 2022? they almost won because of them.

>>214252374
Based. Think about your quarterly GDP growth!

>>214255214
Allow me to explain the situation to you.

1000 rich people don't pay ten millions each to the state and 10 million poor people leech 1000€ each from the state.
This is the same sum of money. How is one revolting and not the other? In any case, for the part that concern me, I am the one paying for it.

Why don't you care that tens of billions are leeched out of you tax moeny every year? It don't make sense to me.

>>214255156
Are you talking about the 2017 labour reform or something else?
Also his betrayal of Hollande and the way he has presented himself his entire career is disgusting, just a wolf in sheep's clothing
It feels like Macron thinks he is a god and that when he says something the French people ought to just believe him and follow, I don't understand how anyone finds that style of rule attractive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kKRhDx_Kc

>>214255285
I hope the peace negociations fail and Russia end up annexing all of Ukraine in 5 years.

Otherwise, I will have to pay to rebuild that shithole which will be repopulated by niggers by its Jewish overlord.

>>214254553
people are somehow incapable of grasping this
i get the emotional reaction people get from seeing excess wealth, etc. but more than half the economy is the government now and you still have people pretending that the problem is not enough taxes lol
government in every western country is larger than ever been with more spending on social services and the like than ever in history.

>>214255264
Well I hope Trump shit posts the USD so hard that it breaks the Euro/Dollar system. Might even be the plan since gold is now a tier one asset. Hope you have some shinnies.

>>214255366
No one find this style attractive. When his bodygard was beating random people in the street, he acted like a kid.

After the Euroean election, he was so sure that his action was good and that the peopleloved him that he made a new parlimentary election to show that it was only a fluke.
The entirety of his governement yell at him of how bad the situation is but he keep refusing to listen to them. What the fuck.

>>214253808
All women leech of the state, no matter the number of children.

>>214254667
Liechtenstein isn't in the EU ignoramus

>>214255264
>They cant be taxed so we shouldnt even try
>>214255333
Its revolting because the per person fraud is a lot worse per rich guy. Doing the same financial damage to the budget as a thousand (realistically more) normal people do. Both are a problem. One is just a lot worse on an individual basis. And they wouldnt even need to do this, mind you. Even without fraud theyd still be better off than any idiot committing welfare fraud. Its the greed that drives me mad

>>214255413
I have to say, boomers take more than even all the nonwhites together.
And according to them, we are ungratful for all the good they have done to the world.

Macron was elected by clueless young people the first time and by boomers the second.

>>214254553
i read this reply with a strong french accent.

>>214255488
Right, I wanted to say Luxembourg. Where all the banks are.

>>214250587 (OP)
So what happens now? does macron get on his knees and goes beg trump for a handout?

>>214255592
ECB bailout like with greece, followed by austerity
My guess anyways

>>214255496
>Its revolting because the per person fraud is a lot worse per rich guy
Yeah but there is a lot less of them. And greed is also why people, often illegals, fraud the social security and the allocations.

Why is greed tolerable in one case and not in the other?
And in any case, why the fuck should I accept to pay for it? This is revolting, both of them.

>>214255592
Now? Nothing. Maybe there will be a new parlimentary election, Macron will keep spending more, whoever promise to spend more than him will win the next election, both the far right cat lady and the fat bufoon promize to spend more than the other, and it will keep being that way until people refuse to lend us money.

>>214252374
Take that Putler!!!

>>214255634
theres a lot less of them but they cause similar damages to the budget
And, i never said greed is tolerable in either case. Just that one seems a lot worse, considering these people already have everything
On your last point, you shouldnt have to pay for either of their greed/fraud. If anyone should pay for the browns fraud, its the people who own mansions in monaco. But they bring the browns here and defraud the state while at it, leaving your and mine neighborhood filled with them.
We agree i think, its just that i suppose we disagree over who the worst offenders are.

I'm planning on moving to Poland or Czech Republic. Pierogi look kinda tasty...

>>214255898
Another CDU/SPD coalition is not sustainable

>>214253808
>useless old “people”
I will never understand the hate for old people. They were young once and worked what do you want from them now? You're just being mean

>>214254667
capital gains is 10% now. We can't have anything good here

>>214255812
>theres a lot less of them but they cause similar damages to the budget
>And, i never said greed is tolerable in either case. Just that one seems a lot worse, considering these people already have everything
It's much easier to tighten up holes in social assistance money than getting rich people to pay taxes. Also in the case of welfare fraud it can screw over legitimate people. welfare fraud isn't as huge as you think, especially since rich people can continuance many other things besides tax policy to give themselves a substantial edge over everyone.

all this just because jews are seething about them recognizing palestine kek

>>214256113
Well what im getting here is, the rich are the true cancer. Im getting too drunk to hold a good talk now so ill leave this thread

>>214255392
trvke

>>214255285
they can't lose soon enough so we can stop wasting money to own da rushians

>>214254466
because EU imported too many people from the 3rd world that are constantly on goverment benefits and not paying into the pot.

>>214252374
wtf we're doing that here aswell

>>214255906
pay your denbts first

>>214256509
how did the whole imf bail out thing go there? just curious cause we're heading there aswell

>>214256509
paying debts is for suckers anyways, the socialist party here said that if they win they are gonna void the debt, they got my vote.

>>214256065
there has never been a generation as greedy as the western baby boomer generation. a rule of thumb for all generations since fucking moses has been the mindset that you want your children wich is your own flesh and blood to have it better then what you had when you grew up. but that does not applies to that generation. fuckers squats on multiple homes and are the most entiteled people you will ever come across and they didnt manage to create strong family bonds either (shocker). cant wait for each of them to shit themself to death in some care home tended by some negro straight out of the jungles of africa. not a single tear shedded when that generation is put into the history books from me atleast

>>214256658
but they din't have dem phones n shieet while growing up

Janitors do fuck all now
What's the point of even having different boards if /pol/ shit can be posted everywhere with impunity?

>>214256691
Have you maybe considered that conditions have gotten bad enough to where everyone, anywhere finds it relevant to talk about.

>>214253808
having 5 million white women studying sociology and liberal sciences is essential to running a country actually.

>>214250587 (OP)
France just needs more corporate tax cuts

>>214250587 (OP)
Who do they owe money to?

>>214253808
The endless waves of immigrants drive down labor costs so those billionaires don't need to be taxed, all at the expense of setting up every country to one day experience race riots and pogroms spurned on by high crime rates and unemployment

>>214258202
da jooz

>>214258202
stop asking questions