Thread 214262761

They were more advanced and developed than China even until the 2000's. What happened?

China finally got its act together
Its history makes from the warlord decade to the cultural revolution makes for some bleak reading, but it finally got in a government which was serious about developing the country, actually competent at doing so, and stopped having civil wars

>>214262761 (OP)
They stopped being socialist in 1983, consequently they stopped being poor
We were socialist until 1991, and are still quasi socialist to this day.
Unironically India would seem a lot better if people didnt throw their trash everywhere, or had fines imposed on them.

>>214262761 (OP)
China started doing nothing, meanwhile, I keep seeing news every day about Indians doing something.

>>214262761 (OP)
War on terror happened

China focused on becoming an industrial exporter, India focused on becoming a service exporter.

>>214262761 (OP)
>Even until the 00s
Lmaooooooooo

>>214262761 (OP)
theyre both the same level of third worldism, india has internet so everyone can see it and china doesnt so you dont. thats the reason the reputations of the two are different (+jeet fatigue in the west because a lot of those countries import a lot of them)

>>214262857
China despite having more population for longer just never seemed to get as filthy. Even in the 90s with smokestacks everywhere, where they were making toys for $.50c an hour, it never got filthy filthy.

>>214264072
People that do business in China do report back that China has genuinely changed though, even the rural backwater areas are well on their way to actual development. They'll probably be an entire firstie country by 2040 or so.

>>214262761 (OP)
Agricutlure-based society versus forced industrialisation since Mao times

The great leap forward unironically made China get ahead of the world

While rural India is still ruled by feudal land-owners, China killed them all in the cultural revolution

Not everything Mao did is bad

>>214264153
>China despite having more population for longer just never seemed to get as filthy.
Lol lmao, my parents visited China in the 80s (they studied Chinese in university together) and they were disgusted with people shitting everywhere, abject ridiculous poverty and sleeping on slate of wood, nothing else

My Dad went home through the Soviet Transsiberian and it was a return to civilisation

>>214262761 (OP)
India was advanced because it was colonized by the British. But it was only advanced in places the British lived, like major cities, while the rest of the country was tribal.

>>214264153
>>214264153
>where they were making toys for $.50c an hour, it never got filthy filthy
Yeaahhh nahh.... China cleaned up before the Olympics and kept that momentum rolling. They cleaned up their cities in the 90s first then the countryside in the mid 00s.There's still poor parts of China but it's improved so much. I've been there in the late 90s and early 00s (dad worked there) and it was just as shitty as India. They skyrocketed after early 00s and it is genuinely impressive.

>>214264153
Something makes me think this post is just pure bullshit.

>>214264224
>>214264317
I'm wrong then. I'm just basing this off what I seen watching videos on China from the 70s-90s, but I guess even that was curated.

>>214262857
Do Indians actually believe this nonsense? The real reason is as >>214263892 mentioned.
China used its huge population wisely after Deng's reforms, which was only possible due to its socialist state structure. It became the centre for industry almost by force, thanks to command economies having no overhead at risk of supply-demand miscalculation.
India didn't, because there was no chance India could do the same but with services instead. That's much harder to do because then you're directly competing with rich Western economies (who didn't and still don't care about industry).
And no, the License Raj didn't have much to do with it, because that was state capitalism too, just extremely bureaucratic.
>>214264153
>They'll probably be an entire firstie country by 2040 or so.
In terms of per capita matching the Western economies? No chance. Their economy as a whole will however outdo them individually, but they've got too many people still. They can't all live like Westerners.

>>214264375
Hong Kong and Shanghai were developped though but that's due to pre-WW2 investments

>>214263145
China does a lot though. They control half of africa they control politicians in sea countries and even Australia new Zealand. They dont have whistle blowers or an independent media to uncover or report on these things so everything just seems like jealous western propaganda. I still think china is far smarter though