Thread 214425530

remember what you're fighting for

>What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

Previously : >>214345040

Seens that the genitive postposition marker afeter the noun of color is used to connect to the auxilliary verb establishing composed times itself.
>उसकी आँख नीले रंग की है
Here, it indicates the colour, exactly, and there are two different postpositions indicating genitive case, one goes at the oblique, demonstrative-possesive distal pronoun, non-datative, other after the colour noun, most likely to be the grammatical subject since the pronoun is oblique

>>214418126
It'd take forever to sentence mine and manually make cards for each word. You gotta use the tools that are out there. For Japanese I'm using the browser extension yomitan. Every time I come across a new word while inputting I just highlight it, then a little window pops up that lets me add the card straight to anki. It takes like half a second to add a card. You can use Yomitan with other languages too.
Use https://reader.ttsu.app to upload epubs so you can use yomitan on your ebooks.
Memento (https://github.com/ripose-jp/Memento) is the same concept for videos and lets you hover over subtitles to add words.
It all a little overwhelming to set up, but there's tons of tutorials online. It's worth it because it saves you a ton of time in the long run.

>>214425530 (OP)
Can someone recommend some good materials for starting to learn Brazilian Portuguese?

>>214426669
I normally start off with the colloquial books. I'm pretty sure there is one for Brazilian Portuguese.

Generally I do:
Colloquial series for Lang + Vocab through SRS
Then I move onto consuming books and media (discovery kids type shit and then I move onto normal documentaries. Stuff like how it works is cool if you can find it in your TL)

>>214422661
I'm just interested in it and I like it. I like how it sounds too.
I like the other Germanic languages too but they don't have enough content. Most content is hochdeutsch so dialects aren't a major issue.
Also I might live in one of the DACH countries some day. Not for work, I just like the mountains and forests and nature there.
Also German is common to encounter so there's a lot of random opportunities to use it.

Tip of the day: If anyone else is sick of Youtube's auto-dub bullshit you can install the "Youtube No Translation" add-on to force it to select the original audio.

>>214426669
The posthumous memories of Bras Cubas has the most intellectual use of words I know on national litrrature.

>>214424439
I'm a toilless freak so here's your explanation:
China's modern mass media cultural products (i.e. films, music, video games) are mostly poor imitations of Japan or the west. There are exceptions, but not many. In contrast, Chinese traditional culture, philosophy, literature, etc is very developed and refined. However, you do not "consume" these forms of culture, you study and maybe appreciate them. When these are integrated with mass media (i.e. Nezha 2) they can make better cultural products.

Japan's modern mass media is clearly innovative and influential, and is popular around the world. However, Japanese philosophy, literature, and traditional culture is mostly a poor imitation of China's. I took classes on Japanese literature and they only teach you about stuff like the tale of Genji and women's diaries because EVERYTHING else being written in old Japan was just an emulation of Classical Chinese writing. Japanese philosophy, religion (apart from artificial state shinto BS), and literature all comes from China and is generally of less scholarly value and can be better understood by just reading the Chinese works that inspired them/they copied.

Therefore, Chinese culture does not befit "consuming" via mass media, and is more deserving of serious study to appreciate it
Japanese culture is inferior in these aspects, and is more befitting of consuming via mass media

>>214426669
https://t.me/tokyoghouldublado

>>214427116
You can config the audio stream track.

Once again, I am looking for a language to learn on my own and spend $0 on it. Normally, I would choose Japanese, but my main focus rn is to master English, so I don't want to get involved in a language as difficult as Japanese (and anyway, by the time I reach a high level in it, I won't care if I'm 44 instead of 41) and because my indecisiveness makes it difficult for me to learn languages, I also get more involved in other hobbies
I am considering French, followed by an easy Germanic language such as Dutch, Norwegian and Swedish, or German, and an easy Romance language such as Spanish or Italian (although I have heard that Italian is not that easy)
>Choose what you like!
It's not that easy. I like them all, I don't have time, and I have compulsive fascinations with various things until I burn out and don't want to see these things for a while. You won't learn the language that way!
Besides, Lute (text + audiobook) seems to work great. Thanks to this program I also realized how poorly I know English, which is a bit depressing

>>214427640
Learn Swedish with me.

>>214427640
I am very much a dabbler and commit infidelity with my languages, so I understand the struggle.
You have to just full send commit to one for a while, then maintain it when you full send commit to a new one if that's what you want to do.
It's slower than continued progress in a singular, but generally you can get multiple up to a high level doing this. Worked for me anyway.
If you struggle to pick which one to commit to, just pick one at random lol.
It doesn't really matter which if you intend to get them all all to the same level eventually.

I kinda regret learning Spanish now

>>214428582
No Latinas?

>>214428582
As a boy I stood never otherwise than erect, never otherwise than upright, piercing blue eyes flashing in the midst of the creeping Spanish-teaching rabble of the American education system, and my remarks fell like lash after lash of the whip: "This is pointless. There's no reason to learn this. I don't care about Spanish. I don't care about Mexico."

>>214428671
It's not about that
Most of them can speak English here anyway

Another advantage of the Lute and reading books in general is that when I am not consuming current political drizzle*, but focusing on adventure novels and fantasy books, I have grown to like** Anglo-Saxon culture again.
*Is that understandable? I don't know if I heard it somewhere or if I just made it up.
**does it sounds natural?
>>214427759
Why not Norwegian? Or German?
>>214428546
>It doesn't really matter which if you intend to get them all all to the same level eventually
I gave up on that idea. I know it simply won't work and I'll probably only master one or two languages besides English. That makes my choice even harder. I know Byron knew Italian, and Poe knew French, German and Italian. That's something. I care more about speaking than writing and reading, but the knowledge that the authors I like knew certain languages and that these languages influenced them convinces me to learn these languages a bit
>>214428887
Which languages impress them? French, Italian? German?

>>214429052
>Which languages impress them?
None

>>214429052
>Which languages impress them? French, Italian? German?
Any language which comes out of a deep set of vocal cords and a handsome face that they have to tilt their gaze upwards a few degrees to see
I have seen retards braying like animals impress a chadstruck expression upon the countenance of females

>>214429278
That's obvious, but I'm going to learn languages anyway, so I might as well choose one that Latin women like. Although that's not a strong argument because I live in Europe. Italian and Dutch, maybe German seem the least nerdy.

>>214429052
>Why not Norwegian?
Less resources/content and two separate written standards that complicate things.

>Or German?
It's too basic bitch, too obvious. It's like the blonde bimbo everyone chases after, while Swedish is the cute nerdy alternative girl that doesn't get enough attention but is actually sexier once she takes off her glasses.

Challenge for native english speakers and foreigners, explain the difference between veracity and verisimilitude without looking it up.

>>214429579
I picked a language for you to learn.

>>214430169
no one is going to get that right unless they notice similitude as a separate word

>>214430169
truthfulness
truthiness

>>214430169
One is more appropriate for matters of fact, and one is more appropriate for fiction.

I got called oppa by a korean girl for the first time today my brain exploded I'm still recovering

>>214431163
she just called u an unc bro

>>214430169
you prove your veracity in court, you prove your verisimilitude by sticking your bookworm face in a book

I started using the language reactor plugin for youtube, specifically for german videos. it works well if the speaker has a very precise voice, like a professional narrator or AI. it's much more inaccurate rendering casual conversation. it also generally has trouble with the translation of the personal pronouns that depend on context for meaning like sie.

>>214431800
that has to do with youtube's auto-generated subtitles not with language reactor

>>214429052
For "drizzle," I think you might have had in mind "drivel." A very nice word.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drivel

If you're asking about "I've grown to like," that sounds perfectly natural. The only thing is it implies that you disliked Anglo-Saxon culture for a time, which might not be what you meant.

>>214430855
>>214431734
These are the closest in terms of the nuance of its usage, but to put it more precisely, veracity is a matter of fact while verisimilitude is a matter of narrative/fact. For example, historians use the term verisimilitude more to refer to the trustworthiness of a document specifically in terms of its narrative or characterization of events, rather than the veracity of the specific factual claims made within.

Good to see a sharp uptick in luteposting after I started posting about it on here. It’s really excellent. I’ve been using it to revisit Latin and I feel like my ability to tackle texts has increased tenfold even just looking at a normal book unassisted. It’s like reading with training wheels.

Is there a pair of wired, noise-cancelling headphones you guys would recommend for shadowing?
I already have a blue yeti and I sadly I don't get to live alone anymore, so I need to buy a pair so I can fap silently and I might as well try out this shadowing thing.

>>214433911
I've used my pair of bose qc35ii's daily for like the past 5 years

>>214430169
whats the case and appears to be the case

>>214434219
They look doable, can they be used wired or is wireless mandatory?

>>214430169
veracity is the (actual) truthfulness of something used to describe claims, while verisimilitude is the appearance of something resembling real life used to describe paintings or novels

>>214435188
You can use them wired. I have them wired 70% of the time.

>>214430169
Veracity is an actual word, whereas the other is some made up bollocks

Nighty bump

>>214433911
Why would you wear noise cancelling headphones? The whole point of shadowing is that you can hear yourself against the native recording and correct it

>>214427043
>DACH
>nature
HHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH

Back on my Japanese grind after a hiatus on new content and only maintaining it.
I have been watching a lot of NHK World recently. Really comfy channel.

>>214437841
He hears his objective voice through the blue yeti and blocks out his subjective voice with noise cancelling headphones

English, Japanese (in the future as a third or fourth language), and two from: German, French, Dutch, Italian, Swedish, Spanish, Norwegian, Portuguese
>>214430427
No you didn't. In any case, I can listen to the arguments or some cool vision, but I will have to decide for myself.
>>214429754
Duolingo and Pimsleur have more extensive courses in Norwegian. I think I saw more input materials on YouTube, but I may be mistaken
>drivel
Cool word, saved
>The only thing is it implies that you disliked Anglo-Saxon culture for a time
That's what I meant. Or rather, I used to like it, then I couldn't stand it, and since I stopped following everyday political hysteria, I like it again.
Thank you for your help

>>214430169
I don't know the meaning of either of those words and I don't even recognize one of them

Why is Chinese cinema so shit? Taiwan produces some good stuff but hte mainland really doesn't compete

>>214439769
I think it comes down to not wanting to piss off the party now or in the future. Much easier to play it safe in the present.

>>214440012
Maybe. I'm not even learning Chinese though I've been considering it and thought maybe the quality of their cinema would convince me. Hong Kong and Taiwan produce some brilliant stuff, the mainlaind occasionally makes a half decent historical film and that's about it.

>>214439769
>Chinese film industry was used as a propaganda tool from the early days, making anti-Japanese films for the war. Outside of big cities there were no commercial cinemas, everything was government/party-run screenings. This made Chinese people associate film with politics and not really get interested in it
>until the mid 70s all film production was 100% controlled by the party
>after this, filmmakers were allowed independence but in reality still relied on government funds to make their films - so they were censored and usually had a pretty strong political message
>brain drain of good actors, directors etc to Hong Kong and abroad
>directors realise in the 90s that the foreign film festival circuit can get them way more money than domestic releases, so they start filming stuff with the "evil communist poverty" porn dialled up to 11
>mass import of western and Japanese films in the 90s also makes the domestic market unfavourable
>domestic filmmakers focus on the genres that western films can't compete with them in (Wuxia, historical films, PLA war porn, animation)
>the few Chinese films that try to compete with hollywood get panned in China for being shit (until recently, 《好东西》was quite good, and it's a rom-com)
>Chinese filmmakers have either fully quit the domestic industry and now only make film festival exploitation porn, or they stayed in China and became party dicksuckers
tldr: China's film industry never developed like those in HK and Taiwan, and now it's painted itself into a corner of just making wuxia slop

>>214440012
it's mostly commercial reasons, China's underdeveloped film industry can't compete with hollywood or the west in general. Chinese people love hollywood films and actually prefer having subtitles on.

>>214439769
Censorship. Look how fast hollywood went to shit after they started self-censoring.

>>214440393
Self-censoring on behalf of making it easier to enter the Chinese market :^)
That's where the money is at

>>214440476
Self-censoring on behalf of various things.

Week 1 of learning French:
>practicing an Anki deck I found in the OP
>following the New French with Ease book with audio
>downloaded Engrenages and Tintin, will start watching them when I'm a little more free (currently doing a Japanese-to-English translation gig)
>following some cool channels I found
>scouring the links in the OP for more resources
While doing so I found this chart in the pastebin. This seems to be grossly outdated, since Duolingo is incredibly pozzed now. Would anyone care to make a new chart?

>>214439769
Uncontrolled nepotism means unqualified people make shit drama, who knew?

>>214441902
All I got is this.

>>214442226
Cool, downloaded the book. I think it'll be a month or two before I'm able to take a shot at it.

Do. Your. Lute.

>>214442226
>Olly Richards
Ngmi

>>214442226
What ever happened to Language Transfer? I’ve always assumed he’s a scammer like all of the other language learning gurus.

>>214443410
What is the difference between this and just reading the books in a e-reader application that has dictionary support?
The fact that this shit was not talked about until rather recently in these threads leads me to believe you are a bunch of shills.

>>214443763
What is that broken furigana? Do you actually read like that?

>>214443883
>Even looking at furigana
Ngmi

>>214443489
All his courses are free, so hardly a scammer. But he did sort of rip off the Michel Thomas Method which is a paid commercial product and I do believe he had some legal trouble with them.

>>214443763
Difference is that you can save words and export to Anki. When you add new texts, it marks the words you already know and you can hover over them to see the definition you saved. It saves you a bit of time with (repeated) lookups and if you just want to mine new vocab you can more easily spot it.

It's just a neat lil reading tool. Simple as.

XXX 1, 6
XXX 2, 7
XXX 3, 8
XXX 4, 9
XXX 5, 0
XXX dubbs

>>214443970
>Difference is that you can save words and export to Anki
Okay, but I don't care about Anki. I am asking about the use case of Lute over an e-reader with dictionaries.
>When you add new texts, it marks the words you already know and you can hover over them to see the definition you saved. It saves you a bit of time with (repeated) lookups and if you just want to mine new vocab you can more easily spot it
Doesn't sound that useful.

You do you, but you are still a shill.

>>214444044
When the universe really wants you to goon.

>>214444044
fuck

>>214438433
?

Just imagine yourself learning Spanish, yes spanish, that fucking disgusting, nasty, putrid language. fucking inserting it into your brain. Having that goblin speak inscripted inside your memory.
Now imagine people doing that deliberately to themselves.What have the world come to?

>>214443410
What's your list of langs, serbbro? I have a feeling we are similar.

>>214444954
German, Spanish, French, recently Swedish.

>>214445007
What happened to russky?

>>214445007
Quite vanilla picks desu. Thought Serbs had more spice

>>214445035
It defeated me but I plan on coming back to it eventually.

>>214445007
The same but swap Spanish for Italian. Might dabble in Russian and Jap

>>214445096
I thought Russian would be easy for native speakers of Slavic languages.

the polish guy needs to pick a fucking language already, im learning what he is.

>>214445387
Just say the D slur.

>Easy French gets 2 hot women
>Easy German gets 2 jolly fat people
duality of man

>>214445454
Mad how I've lived with polacks my whole life and don't know what you mean. Please do tell

>>214445181
It's overall slightly easier for us, but what filtered me was just not finding good input at my level. For months I was just doing Anki and some bare minimum input with boring youtube videos. Got to about ~2.5k words but it didn't feel like they were sticking like they should, so I dropped it. Russian dubs are dogshit and the movies/shows I found on rutracker didn't have Russian subtitles so it's difficult to watch at my level.

>>214445485
Dabbler, duh!

>>214433049
I find that I don't really use the built-in dictionary in Lute, I just use Yomitan. Still it's fun to mark off words after you understand them

>>214426801
>>214427138
Thanks
>>214427396
Kek

>买了700美元电脑
>Windows 10 将于2025年10月14日结束官方支持

>try reading the news
>Putin's French name is Poutine
what le fuck

>>214447326
OS无法升级吗?你傻

>>214447518
if it was spelled putin, it would be a homophone of putain

>>214447577
kek

>skimming textbook for an indian langauge
>the dialogues are unironically about getting scammed

Do it for her.

>>214447769
花七百美元买什么破电脑呢 你被骗了

>>214447326
>>214447769
et tēcum tristis sum. nōn possum augmentare ā Fenestram X ad Fenestram XI.
time to mash up some mint for the first time and try linux in october

>>214448830
>poo
>saar

For the next month I'm going to grind like crazy. You anons should try grinding hard for once in your pathetic lives instead of spending years deciding on the right TL and learning method.

>>214448971
unironically I will learn Swedish for her

>>214449171
If money wasn't an issue I would just inpoot all day

>>214449171
i expect a super saiyan transformation out of you

can any french learners who eventually became fluent explain their difficulties they had with inputting?

>>214451022
Its the same as any other language really, except the French talk like retards.

>>214429052
>Why not Norwegian?
doesn't matter too much anyway. i learned norwegian and understand most spoken and written swedish due to that. in fact, i think i talk to more swedes in norwegian than to actual norwegians kek
>>214429754
resource density is fine honestly. but i also mostly used resources with german as assisting language, so i'm not quite sure how extensive english language materials are, willing to bet though there's something decent out there.
as for written standards, you only /really/ need to learn bokmål, it isn't like nynorsk is incomprehensible. i don't write in it, but it's not at all any difficult to understand. besides, people often write how they speak anyway, aswell as in swedish, so it's not that big a deal either way. just a thing to get used to, not a real hurdle though

>>214451281
How well do you understand Swedish, percentage wise?

>>214436112
Alright, I'll look into buying them.

https://voca.ro/18JCkL98HOz4
Rate my English accent... I'm not German.

>>214451662
accent is understandable, but it's clear. it's good

>>214451327
good question. not really sure how to answer that. written i understand pretty much everything and never have any trouble, but that might also be due to the fact that swedish uses a lot of low german words, so whenever i wouldn't understand something based on my knowledge of norwegian, i likely recognize the word from german. spoken, it depends a lot. it's a very diverse language, so it varies on the dialect, but i would say it's always around 70-80%, and the rest i can guess based on context in spoken language.

>>214451926
>>214451327
at least***** around 70-80%. mostly more though. for example, i can watch a documentary, a youtube video, or a movie in swedish and wouldn't have much trouble understanding it. i listen to swedish podcasts sometimes for fun and it isn't an issue.

Why are languages so complicated af?? Its like ancient mechanism in your brain, learning a language at c1 level requires a years of practice, speaking, learning, writing, immersion etc, i dont have so much time in my life to spend it on language, why wasnt i born in english speaking country, im so fucking tired to learn english, fuck this shit, i just wanna be percieved as normal human being, but its impossible when you were born in 3rd world country with awfull teaching of english at schools, and you'll be a subhuman with horrible accent in english, russian accent is basically caveman dialect, no one loves russian accent, i regret everyday that i was born as russian, it totally sucks
anyway, why were languages designed as such intricate mechanism? it affects any language, i would say that english grammar is easy if it compared with russian, german etc
but any languages have many useless grammar rules, many illogical parts of it, irregular declensions, words, verbs, whatever else in order to just to be, because they are spoken like that (sorry for my bad english)

>>214452033
>posts this in perfectly understandable english with the only real caveat being the slavic lack of understanding what articles are for
бecпoкoйcя, илья, вcё бyдeт в пopядкe. ты yж дoвoльнo хopoшo гoвopишь нa aнглийcкoм. тoлькo лypк мoap бpaтaн

>>214452033
Russian accents are seen as kind of cool in America, even if they forget to say “the” often. Maybe Euros see Russians as cavemen, but many Americans see Russians as our respected rival (or hated enemy if they’re a liberal). When we think Russia we think of a real country with real agency that is a potential threat to us. We don’t think the same with Germany. Even a lot of liberals see Eurofags as kind of retarded and weak.

The only exception among Euros is the French, who get hate in part because of past attempts at throwing off American dominance.

>>214451662
Turn down the recording setttings nigga.

>>214447326
>>214447567
>>214448986
Are you guys actually learning Mandarin, or just using Google translate?

>>214452033
just listen to English as much as you can and imitate what you hear. also learn the IPA symbols and linguistic terms so you have a better idea of where the sound is coming from etc.

>>214452033
i'm bored while waiting for hd2 to update so i'll respond to this cry for help (bait)
i think the russian accent sounds awesome, and infinitely better than a lot of others. i hope you overcome your innately russian genetic predisposition to lamentation, suicide, alcoholism and chain-smoking. one day in the future I would like to learn russian. if nothing else, i'd making a killing selling self help books in russia with titles like "stop drinking" and "it's okay to have an accent if you're russian"
russians are an oddball when interacting online with them. if the russian government weren't so cartoonishly unlikeable to others we'd be the best of friends

>>214449171
Hell yeah me too. Just extended my Duolingo streak.
WAGMI

>>214453604
>WAGMI
>Duolingo
right

तुम सिर में बीमार हो

>>214453604
How long is your streak?

>>214453197
Yes
Idk about the other guy, can't tell if it's translated or just mid

should I learn Sanskrit or Hindi first

>>214455121
Sanskrit, because it's cooler.

>>214455121
I came here to ask about Hindi, myself. As an aside, with all the butthurt about Hindi being mandatory during schooling because northern language imperialism or whatever, why doesn't India just standardize on Sanskrit, and then everyone can be on the same page?

>>214455121
Sanskrit.
Hindi is only good if you want to engage with your local population or Bollywood action movies.

>>214454758
949

>>214455433
Imagine if you spent 949 days using good resources

how would one go about learning hebrew ?

>>214453197
我中文不太好。我可以用Google如果不懂。谢谢为你的英语问题。

>>214455121
Whichever one your boyfriend speaks

>>214444081
>calls someone a shill for suggesting a useful, open-source project
>no money to be made
>shill
retard. I wish there were an individual sage feature so that you wouldn't even receive this (you)

>>214456870
You can still shill free stuff you absolute cretin.
Shit was unheard of like a month ago when that ALG fag was shilling his youtube playlist. Now its every thread with this new shit.

Carry on shilling though :^)

>>214457176
so what? what is your point?

>>214457176
Are only ankifags allowed to shill their pile of shit program?

>>214457278
The point is you retards shill too much slop.
>>214457338
No, its horse shit.

All you faggots do is shill slop and talk about how much you love your slop. At least do it in your TLs.

>>214445387
Are you learning to dabble from me?

>>214457457
Learn Lithuanian

The problem is that when it comes to European languages, I have a soft spot for these small and medium-sized but resolute nations and languages. That is why Dutch, Italian, Swedish and Norwegian are on the list, and there was also Czech and Slovak, but these are Slavic languages and I could learn them later. I just don't know if I'll ever use them outside of a few conversations, and I feel that it's better to learn one of the two powerful European languages: German or French (they learn them in those small, resolute countries anyway) or Japanese.
>>214457652
Nah, not on my list

>>214457690
It should be

>>214457338
What's wrong with anki?

>>214425530 (OP)
>seedhe maut dene lene
?????
that doesnt make any sense
>>214425699
are you learning hindi?
why?
are you an academic reasearcher?

>>214457891
Its objectively effective, if you are the type of person who can stand using it.
I find vanilla anki ugly as shit, and it feels soul crushing to use without copious amounts of mods to make it actually tolerable.
So basically its a skill issue as to why I dislike it.

Real ones use https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1722658993

>>214458370
>ugly
kek what
it's a tool for flashcards, what beauty do you need for text on an otherwise blank space? i swear to god there's something about the flickering light of monitors that must be so hypnotic to people that it turns them into retarded homos who will go on to complain about plain black on white text not being pretty enough

>>214458522
Would you rather sturdy ina padded cell or a cozy office?
For me, I find I retain information better when my environment isn't depressing, but as a German I think you are used to dull things.

>>214455121
Sanskrit if you want to actually use your time for something useful.

>>214458007
Found this at a music video.

>>214458734
the padded cell, i think offices generally radiate a feeling of immense depression and are made for makeshift humans. in a padded cell i could bounce around like a monkey throwing a tantrum inbetween reps, how is that not better than a fucking office? christ man you could have said anything, like a lounge or a living cozy living room, and you come up with office. when you think of a cozy place you think of a fucking office and you call me dull KEK
anyway, i'm happy that you made anki more enjoyable for yourself

>>214459154
You mistake my meaning of office. I mean in ones house. A study perhaps is the word I should have used.
Stay mad I guess?

>>214457690
Dutch is kino, right at the borderline of kinda sounding like English sometimes before getting too distant

>>214459226
huh? office in the context of one's house i could get (although i have never heard someone say that, maybe i just don't know an english speaking person who has that), but is "a study" really a word for a room like that

>try learning Chinese
Same structure as English, characters impossible to remember
>Try learning Hindi
Much harder structure to follow, basic characters a bit easier but the multiple uses throw me for a loop

Basic Spanish only took like a month.

>>214459469
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Study_(room)

>>214459531
interesting, never heard of this. i think in german most people would just call it a work room, Arbeitszimmer
also:
>Government statistics record that in Britain 4.2 million people worked exclusively from home in 2014; an increase of 31% from the 1998 figure.[4]
based, this is a good development

>>214455121
>Sanskrit
are you trolling?
nobody uses sanskrit anymore
it's extinct now
i fail to understand why someone would want to learn any indian language
>>214459135
oh

>>214459685
>Hallo saars. Please learn my horrible regional language instead of the superior language of yesteryear

>>214459469
bongs use the word "study" for that sort of thing. for most americans, calling it a study is a bit pretentions and is something of an affectation. most of us would call it a(n) (home) office. since we use the same word to refer to the workplace and our home work area, in this context, of course, an intelligent person would disambiguate the two.

>>214459726
>i fail to understand why someone would want to learn any indian language
learn to read

>>214459685
I'm just interested in classical languages. I also want to learn Latin and ancient Greek. but decided on modern Greek before ancient, which made me wonder about learning a modern Indian language before Sanskrit

Roll a language - my edition
1, 6 Dutch
2, 7 French
3, 8 German
4, 9 Italian/Spanish
5, 0 Swedish/Norwegian
dubbs Japanese
In the case of two languages in one point, the penultimate digit is decisive: odd for the first language, even for the second.
>>214444044
It was supposed to be as above, but I fucked up. So I should have drawn Japanese, but I forgot I wasn't supposed to learn Japanese until I reached C level in English. So Italian it is. But again, I don't know if it counts if there were only XXX.
I also don't know if Italian should be on the list and whether Dutch should be in the same category as Swedish and Norwegian.
Maybe I should ditch the easy alternatives and take up German or French, or just stick to the easy languages because I'm focusing on English. After all, I've already rejected Japanese because of its difficulty and the amount of time it takes.
And will I have the opportunity to use lesser-known languages? They'll probably switch to English right away, and there isn't that much content to consume. Italian is already a bit behind. And now I'm into Videoclub and city pop and j-emo-rock very much.
And does this post count as rolling, or do I have to roll with a reply afterwards? I think reply
>>214459390
I like them for that. It's like a language from an alternate universe. It's similar with Czech, Slovak and Polish, which all sound strange to others. Stroopwafels are cool. And does the Netherlands still have windows that open upwards or outwards like the British ones, or are they all German / european windows now? These are also cool

>>214459775
No thanks.

>>214459685
>i fail to understand why someone would want to learn any indian language
so many of your kind are flooding my country and you're generally not very good at english

>>214459865
True, when they stop me on the street I stare at them dumbfounded at how badly they said those words

Another study sesh before bed.
We are gonna make it bros

Substance addiction and successful language learning are wholly incompatible.

have a cute Judith

>>214459943
Beddy soddy sarr

>>214461423
Pls stop redeeming on the saars, saar.

>>214461337
Idk, I would say I did my best learning when I was 24/7 stoned.
Though I stopped due to the voices.

>>214461384
Let's pour one out for her youth and optimism

>>214461384
Monkey face

>>214462115
cute monke

>>214459685
https://youtu.be/zZzrFVQvWcU?si=5vgt0VD0nWvmAGxh

It is "sidha maut dene lene" at minute 0:45

>>214459773
There’s a different connotation as to the intended primary purpose of the space. An office more specifically entails some sort of work that needs to be done at home, and a room for that, a study more generally would be more like a mix of office, personal library, and a lounge in my imagination. Like I can see someone working from home when I hear office, but I can see someone reading or studying languages in a study.

>>214463048
Boobies. Can someone please just make an anime for learning languages and translate it into all the important ones that’s all suggestive softcore already?

>>214459817
rollo

>>214459817
Rolling for 2nd lang

>>214463521
Imagine studying uninterrupted without taking your dick out every few hours

Oldfags with permanent post-nut clarity have it made. I just gotta survive a few more years and then I'll have the key to polyglot mastery

why is Italian a popular language to learn?

>>214464197
Latin is my best language because I studied it mainly by reading the Bible and it made me stop thinking about jerking off so I got way more studying done on it.

bump

bruh wtf is this sound in Arabic ع

>>214466071
It is "uh ah uh ahmmle"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_pharyngeal_fricative

>>214428582
Why? For an American, languages only get MORE pointless than Spanish. I think learning a second language is good for your brain. As a burger, you may as well learn Spanish. Being monolingual feels very 'peasant' to me, not the kind of person I want to be.

>>214464359
Oof madone, we gotta wiseguy over hea. Listen pal, I'm 100% EYE TALLIAN and I'm gonna learn the language of my people. Capice?

>>214461337
Hombres solo quieren una cosa, y es asquerosa

>>214466071
a 3 sound

>>214466071
You know how /j/ is the approximant of /i/ and /w/ is the approximant of /u/?
Well /ʕ/ is the approximant of /ɑ/

>>214467255
>Being monolingual feels very 'peasant' to me, not the kind of person I want to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okJEGrpVIy8
how hard is it to actually learn?

>>214443410
You should play this https://www.romhacking.net/translations/975/
There's also a norwegian translation which I plan to play through someday.

>>214470450
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>>214469966
hard to get started, not difficult once you get to know the basics.

Basically no games dubbed in Swedish, except for Spyro Reignited Trilogy for some reason. Dubbing outside of children's shows is also rare.

Anyone have any torrent, download or free streaming sites for Swedish content? This is all that I've found in my usual places.

https://www.svtplay.se/ -- movies/tv streaming with captions, limited choices but updates periodically
https://www.filmarkivet.se/ -- short films, seems like it's only old stuff
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=svenska+ljudbok -- lots of audiobooks on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo5oe4gAWJTuFl--2EYkwhAYuyznz4Z_c -- classic cartoon network episodes
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialPoke%CC%81monTV -- pokemon dubbed & subbed

Would be nice to find The Last Airbender which I know has a dub.

Install Lute. Install it twice.

>>214473782
I don't know how many of these are dubbed or just translated text, but if you like emulating older games, you could look up Redump/No-Intro names with "Sv" in the title. maybe some of the PS2 and PSP games have dubs

>>214463868
Shit. I have the impression that there is less material and content for Dutch than for Swedish or Norwegian
>>214464359
Sounds good, huge cultural impact in the rennaisance era and later, interesting regions, good PR due american movies and self promotion in the post war era, great weather, simple food, the cradle of the Roman Empire, great emphasis on form, even when there is no content (fashion or when they speak nicely)

>>214475727
i wish i could fucking install it once at the very least but it's quite niggerish on not windows. however, i decided to never use windows again, and i'm not changing that for a digital highlighter and i will also not use wine. i will simply read books and understand literally every single word because of my godlike intuition and general intelligence.
stay mad marker fags

>>214476841
Thanks, might play some older games then.

>>214477618
https://luteorg.github.io/lute-manual/install/install.html

Have you tried reading the manual? It's just a couple commands with python and pip.
If you don't have them installed, you can use your distro's package manager to install them with one command.

>>214478189
If you want japanese it gets fairly complicated with the dependencies. IMO this is a good case for a flatapp.

>>214463127
i see
>>214459865
that's your defence?
you are going to learn the language of people that are flooding and ruining your country?
looks like cuckold behaviour to me
>>214459786
but what do you gain from doing that?
will it help you make money?

>>214478563
>will it help you make money?
jeets not beating the allegations

>>214478636
Utilitarianism and its consequences have been a disaster for the humankind

How the fuck do I learn Modern Greek? I know some Attic Greek but that has way better resources I feel.

>>214473782
I know Diablo and Dungeon Keeper have Swedish versions too, and some random ones like Caesar 3 (intro with a Swedish historian who had a kino voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4A5rBlPLng).

No visual context, but one thing that's really big here is podcasts. P3 Dokumentär is good. Here's Utøya: https://www.sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/terrorattacken-pa-utoya. Not overdubbed whenever someone is speaking English, so that might help for context.

If you don't incur more benefit from the language you are learning than the effort you put in, why should you learn the language?

>>214478795
assimil (french / german only) and routledge have courses for modern greek.

>>214478563
this channel is very good for slowly spoken Greek with subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/@Linguatree/videos
and of course there's Easy Greek
https://www.youtube.com/@EasyGreekVideos/videos

>>214479131
Jordie is the happiest man in /lang/ because once he decides which language to learn he loses all purpose.

>>214479158
oops, meant to reply to >>214478795

>>214478805
Page with P3 Dokumentär episode reviews, though I guess it doesn't matter much for learning: https://p3dokumentarbetyg.blogspot.com/2014/07/topp-45-hela-listan.html. Might be a bit advanced even with random English context though. Think there's a bunch of slow Swedish podcasts and YouTube stuff as well.

>>214479175
is he really 'in' /lang/ if all he does is watch from outside the living room window

>>214480125
let's not judge a man from their hobbies

will Italians and Spanish speakers think I'm retarded if I use the French R instead of alveolar R

Stupid life, stupid feelings. When shit happens in my life I can't stop thinking about it and get emotional, and that eats into my immersion because I can't understand things I normally would.
I wish I could just compartmentalize better.

Severance but for immersion when?

>>214482752
What happened, hun? We're here for you.

>>214482838
Thanks, but it's a long story and I don't want to talk about it much. I just never considered that even though I scheduled my immersion hours properly, life would eat into them because of my feelings.

>>214475727
I’ve been grinding out the vulgate with it and my Latin comfort with native texts has shot up dramatically. I’m not going back to readers ever. Imma just grind out the gospels in order, then acts, then Maccabees for military vocab, and probably work through Caesar and Ecclesiastes and the Psalms simultaneously.

I set up ancient Greek on it, so someday if I get the urge maybe I’ll just do the same method again but completely raw through Lute with no prior experience. Gospels/acts for basic narrative/core vocab, Maccabees for a bridge into military/diplomatic/historical vocab that still retains similar grammar to minimize the jump, then into a classic basic-intermediate text like the Anabasis.

>>214482993
We can't expect ourselves to be efficient and manage our mental state perfectly like robots. I dwell on things a lot, and sometimes I can't focus because of it.
It's good to give yourself time off. Go jerk off, walk in the forest, play some vidya, eat some ice cream.

>>214467255
>For an American, languages only get MORE pointless than Spanish
Picrel
Even the word "origin" is from French
French, if for nothing else, makes you a better English speaker

>>214485044
Unironically improves my life better to study Latin or French than Spanish for this reason.

Any resources for Dutch?

>>214427289
Where does Korea fit into this? I have the impression that their mass media is like China's, a poor ultra-capitalist imitation of American or japanese ideas: kpop, korea bbq, korean drama, korean anime exports.
The difference being that Japan has had time to create a very unique and defined identity since the 50s
And Korea has always been china's or japan's bitch so not sure what ancient culture they have, but koreaboos korrect me if i'm wrong

>>214451543
you can't turn ANC off on bose's. Consider sony XM4/5/6 line

Een /ən/
Een /en/
En /ɛn/

>>214478563
it's not for any utilitarian reason, just for personal enjoyment. same with living languages I want to learn honestly

new Judith interview just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_E0I864S58

>>214478563
>but what do you gain from doing that?
>will it help you make money?
Very Indian post

>>214482752
>When shit happens in my life I can't stop thinking about it and get emotional, and that eats into my immersion because I can't understand things I normally would.
Why don't you just think about the things in your TL?

>Mother informed me my great grandmother was Spanish
Hola amigos :3

>>214489365
Corrr bet you have a right takeable little pink hairy arsehole xx

Have any of you who have reached fluency in your TL tried exercises such as listening to low-quality audio or audio with a lot of background noise?

>>214489454
Ever shag your mum up the arse xx

>>214487372
she kinda ratty looking no?

>>214489635
I think she is a Sephardic Jew. her parents were from Morocco
>tfw still love her anyway

Have you guys ever learned something strange about your TL's culture? I just learned that in japan schoolchildren have Piss Test Day.

>>214485044
26%er in all categories, you guys are such a funny bunch

>>214490325
not the worst thing as urine tells you a lot about your health. no clue though why the school must conduct this...

>>214490779
But 0% of it is Spanish, which is the point of the post.

>>214490325
In primary schools in France, Wednesday used to be a day off.

>>214490325
>>214490890
reminds me of the fact that in school primary and quasi middle school (different school system, english lacks the words for this) we had annual dental checkups conducted in our school. some random dentist would be invited to do quick routine checks on every child's teeth. if someone had bad teeth, you'd get a written recommendation to go see your dentist. they'd also seal your teeth (idk some toothpaste-ish coating they would put on, never knew what it was. it was blue and has a unique artificial taste).
no clue why they'd have a guy come look at your piss though...

>>214490931
where do you think spanish words are from brother? it doesn't matter which romance language you took them from, they are still the same words...

Übersetzt hier täglich irgendjemand, um sich zu verbessern? Ich untertittele alle Folgen des Tatorts München von 1991 bis 1998, damit muss ich neuer Wörter nachschlagen, aber ich bin besorgt, dass es sinnlos ist.

Does anyone use regular translation to improve? I'm subtitling Tatort München rn so that I'm forced to look up new words, but I'm worried that it's pointless.

I feel like I can't speak a fucking word of German but I just keep trying. How the fuck do I remember the declensions.

>>214491243
>Münchener Tatort
War das der, der so stark actionlastig war? Ich meine mich zu erinnern, dass der voller alberner Passagen war, die wie 80er Actionfilme aus den Vereinigten Staaten wirkten. Hab das irgendwann mal betrunken geguckt, aber das ist mir vage in Erinnerung geblieben

>>214491074
As a result of compulsory Spanish education, I know what a taco is, but I can't spell words of French origin (e.g. "bureaucracy") and I have to look up every French expression I come across as I read English. I was reading C.S. Lewis the other day, and he says something to the effect of
>as you are having a tête-à-tête with a friend
No amount of Spanish could have prepared me for that.
The last time I have ever seen or heard Spanish used was the Puss in Boots movie.

>>214485044
Learn Spanish and maybe get a Latina gf or learn French and talk to a bunch of Africans. Hmmm, hard choice.

Should I ? Also how can a A1 be able to understand tv shows… :

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>>214491539
Disgusting low IQ cretin

>>214491860
Textbook, spaced repetition and native tutors. Can't go wrong.
Those things are all just toys

>>214491370
Ja es völlig actionlastig ist aber ich finde bloß dass es comfy ist. Meistenste Krimi Serie von England sind depressiv anzuschauen, und ich bin Anwaltslehrling also es its einfacher, Deutsche Krimi als Englisch Dramas zu gucken, weil ich verstehe nicht wenn es cringe ist.

Aber finde ich, dass es wirklich schwer ist, Deutsch Media zu finden. ARDMediathek just fucks me.

>>214491923
Where can I even find a tutor anyways ? I only know Italki and idk if if they start with A0 like me :(

>>214491539
French girls are latinas too

>>214491458
That was a good movie I should see if it's available in my TL

>>214492036
WAGMI

>>214491860
You don't need any of this, just listen to pretty Czech girls talk and look up words you recognize but don't know

>>214491971
If you have money to waste, sure. But why not just practice and drill the basics for a few months first?

>>214492090
It was too gay for my taste. They introduce the masculine main character and then the thrust of the rest of the movie is about him being a whipped loser that needs the help of the unbearable male-feminist therapist dog and the annoying feminist mary-jane girlboss.

>>214492226
> not a dude so idgaf about this.
I just want to learn a new language and challenge myself. Therefore I need a teacher or someone that can help me.
Wanted to start with German or Russian (politically incorrect) but I’m more into Czech for now. A textbook alone doesn’t do it for me since I never learned another language and it doesn’t motivate me enough.
Might ask someone on Italki and see what they say

>>214492337
You don't need to be a dude to listen to pretty Czech girls talk. You probably just won't enjoy it the same way
And you don't need a teacher, I don't have one and I'm still learning

>>214492269
What platform is your screenshot from ? If it’s free I will check it out

>>214492337
>>214492424
On second thought, just buy everything you listed out earlier.

>>214485753
Korean mass media is mostly an imitation of Japan's, but historically their culture is much more similar to China's
ancient Korea saw Chinese culture as superior and they endeavoured to emulate China as much as possible i.e. by setting up Confucian schools and Buddhist temples
there is very little ancient Korean writing of note other than histories and biographies of monks

I'm not very familiar with modern Korean culture so I can't talk much on that but ancient Korea was very much an emulation of China, and they did it much better than Japan. During the Qing dynasty they actually refused to admit that the Ming had ended and saw themselves as the last bastion of true Chinese civilisation lol

>>214492505
Anon be patient, she implied she's a woman

>>214492036
This is the the proof France is Jewish.

>>214492539
>historically
>their culture
Both of these are entirely fabricated though xd

>>214492587
And I've implied I'm furious about a woman speaking to me in my male safey wafey space. She can gtfo.

we have multiple Canadians learning Czech? what's that about?

>>214492812
it's the insane polish learning troon

>>214492595
Mohammed is a semitic name too

>>214492812
At least three as far as I can tell (I'm one of them)
>>214492850
Polish is inferior

>>214491860
Did you even try reading the Assimil book I gave you?
Or try to learn new words with the Anki deck?

>>214492036
French people are not latin, most are Gauls.

>>214383164
Aww yes. I was wrong

>>214493127
I downloaded Assimil on MEGA and now I can’t find it / I’m going to look at the previous threads.
Not familiar with Anki but I have it on my PC. I need to find cards/words and stock it there

I think I'm giving up on Dutch. Probably the first time I've given up so quickly. Difficult pronunciation, spelling makes a little more sense than English, I'm a little proud of myself for figuring out the pronunciation of jongen very quickly (thanks Joost), I have positive associations with them since childhood, they definitely figured out what a country should look like, they invented city life, have cool windows, and I like their stroopwafels and Dutch baby pancakes, but there is so little content here. They speak excellent English, many of them speak German, some speak French. It makes no sense to me to learn it if I'm not going there. If I emigrated there or even planned to, or if I intended to spend some money on language learning, I would definitely learn Dutch

>>214494232
Oh let me fucking guess, you're the white&red jordie

>>214494232
It's OK, Poldie. You need to spend more time finding yourself and exploring what's out there and living your truth. When you find the "one", you will commit to it. The perfect language is out there, waiting for you and it won't care about your long list of failed attempts.

>>214494232
>Probably the first time I've given up so quickly.
don't worry, the next time will be easier

>>214494232
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/209460158/#209461691
I want to say, to give you a better idea of how hard you're fucking up, that I started reading VNs in Jap less than half a year after I started learning the language
Pick something(and stick to it!) already before you make me snap and strangle you to death

>>214494873
The problem is that everything sucks in life when you take a closer look

>>214492812
No… only me. But I was influenced by another maple leaf so that’s probably why you’re confused

People who abandoned a language :
> what was it and why did you give up and what level were you etc ?

Me : none yet, still trying to decide what I want to learn so I have no stories to share

>>214478337
>fairly complicated for japanese
i thought there was only one extra dependency?

for me i just installed the grammar parser dependency and pulled the repo and everything worked

So I have a choice: go back to Italian (I quickly started speaking, but understood less), go back to German (I understood something, but learning was slow), start Japanese from scratch (I only remember a bit of kana), learn French (I had it at school, but it will be practically from scratch)
Spanish or Portuguese or Norwegian or Swedish are also alternatives to the above. But I would rather save them for the future, or if I were to emigrate to those countries.
>>214494873
>>214494973
Although my English is a bit better I think. Did you devote a lot of time to Japanese?
The self-study materials are top tier, they have great music, almost every possible type of entertainment culture, they annoy me a little by throwing anime into everything, but that's a minor detail. The problem is that they are a far away from me, and by the time I get there knowing the language, I'll be an old fart gajin in Japan

Can someone type this into pinyin? I want to know what kind of book it is.

>>214495759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ajL1r9JqO0

Learn German.

>>214495759
>Did you devote a lot of time to Japanese?
I guess? I generally have a positive attitude towards shit made by Japs and did end up spending a lot of time immersing in their stuff, nowadays I use it as much as English, maybe even more. Like 90% of all media I consume is Japanese as well. When learning I went with only Anki and immersion with a dictionary though, so I guess I did a lot less "proper" study than others? According to Anki I spent about 8 full days grinding Japanese.
I didn't bring up Japanese to talk you into learning it, but to tell you that you could have reached that specific level in the super duper hardcore language that is Japanese if only you had spent the last 6 months in a proper way instead of bouncing off a billion languages.

>>214495834
辭淵 well of words
新訂本 new edition
國語音 standard pronunciation
廣州音 Guangzhou pronunciation (cantonese)

>>214495834
https://notesbooks.wordpress.com/2010/11/03/%E8%AA%AA%E3%80%8A%E8%BE%AD%E6%B7%B5%E3%80%8B%EF%BC%8C%E8%AA%AA%E8%BE%AD%E5%85%B8/

>>214495834
it's a 字典 which is a kind of Chinese dictionary that lists characters, their composition, pronunciation, and meaning
different from a 詞典 which lists words

What the hell…..
Nightmare in Russian is the e same as in French !!!!! I’m shocked.
Should have learned this language instead.
> кoшмap VS cauchemar.

Pleb midbrain thread.

>>214496456
My presence ruined this general the second I set foot in the last one. I am going to take a break from posting for a few months and see if it becomes interesting again.

>>214496456
>tf
>tp

We should all learn Chinese.

Which Slavic and/or Germanic language has the most French borrowed words ?

>>214496966
pretty much everyone took from French, ChatGPT gives these % (which might not be accurate, idk)

धन्यवाद

>>214496173
The main reason why I don't take up Japanese, even though I have consumed a lot of content, is that I focus on English rn and wanted something easier
>>214496024
I think about it, but it is a very time-consuming language

>>214497107
I’m surprised Dutch is more than German and polish more than Russia

>>214497235
Learn Swedish then. It's like German-lite and category 1 language.
Still going to take you years though, that's just the nature of the hobby.

>>214497530
Tried Dutch for the same reason and gave up after one day. Little or no content, few learning materials, small population, they speak excellent English and they mogg me with it. I also have a big problem with vowels and minimal pairs based on vowels. And I have a feeling that in Swedish it might be a problem.

Start with :
German
Or
Russian ?
Which one feels more satisfying ?

>>214480602
I'm struggling through this manga right now lmao it's pretty good stuff

>>214497683
depends entirely on your plans and what you're more interested in. for me Germanic (and Romance) sparks joy but Slavic is harder to relate to

>>214497860
I love both :( I don’t want any Romance language. Slavic is very difficult, German I like but not as intensely maybe. Problem is I have family in Germany and Russian… no but I just like the language itself and most of the things I like or watch is in Russian for some reason

>>214497882
go with Russian then

Beanten anyone who asks "which language shoudl I startd? X or Y?" Instead of relating language mechanic learning progress with wood pieces.

new >>214498799

NOVO

>>214498799
>>214498799
>>214498799