Thread 214492434

I’m no longer a Christcuck, does this happen in your country?

>>214492434 (OP)
I choose to interpret this as god himself becoming an atheist

>>214492434 (OP)
Good luck with your husband, OP.

>>214492434 (OP)
>Christcuck
couldn't be me
>>214494027
>what is a closeted homo

>>214492434 (OP)
if you barely ever understood even the most central tenets of christianity, were you ever really a christian at all?

>>214494326
That would mean 90% of christians arent christian

If I told you what religion I am you would hate me

>>214492434 (OP)
Why are you not Christian anymore?

>>214494392
Shalom

>>214494444
Its not that its the second largest religion

>>214492434 (OP)
i havent been christian in a long long time but not sure i would define myself as anything.
Think i might be schizo but I won’t let them diagnose me. No one irl knows the delusions I have about reality.

>>214494458
Goonism?

>>214492434 (OP)
Yes. I was christian until I was 14 growing up in the Bible belt and everyone I knew being Christian and going to a religious elementary. Then I was agnostic at 15 or so then let it go all together and just became atheist which I've been for the last 14 years.

I can't take people completely seriously if they're unironically religious. Same with people that believe in ghosts or astrology

>>214494530
No its Islam
I didn't want to say it though

>>214494458
dont listen to anyone who hates you for your religion, as long as you arent forcing it on anyone else you’re doing nothing wrong.
Anyone who demands everyone else believe the exact same as they do is just so insecure in their beliefs that they cant handle any possibility they may be wrong.

I'm a former born-again christian

>>214494588
I'm surprised they even have them in finland, I always thought that was an american exclusive thing

>>214494578
Wise words

>>214494578
>Anyone who demands everyone else believe the exact same as they do is just so insecure in their beliefs that they cant handle any possibility they may be wrong.
Haha, thank goodness muslims aren't that that haha, that'd sure be awkward

>>214494606
I wouldn't say it's exclusive to any country, although in murrica it's probably more common

>>214494631
Tbf anybody of any religion does that.

>>214494027
>Agnostic people are the most bisexual
Those fuckers really can't make up their mind about anything can they?

>>214494713
I'm going to guess the numbers for all demographics are inflated by women being bi for chad.

I lost my Child faith when i was around 12 and then became Christian again at around 21 after i started reading the bible and looking up things when i didn't understand. I started going to church a year ago. I don't want to force my faith on anyone but i thing people should try to read the gospels and maybe look up explanation if they don't understand. In my experience i find that atheists who hates Christianity rarely have any understanding of basic Christian teachings, my brother who mocks me and God didn't even know that Christian's believe that Jesus is God.

>>214494843
Not hating on your religion but I still don't understand how Jesus is God

>>214494578
>Anyone who demands everyone else believe the exact same as they do is just so insecure in their beliefs that they cant handle any possibility they may be wrong.
Jesus and Mohammed btfo

enjoy burning

>>214494880
That's alright, you also don't understand how a flying donkey transports mohammed to the moon, but you're still a muzzie.

Your "not understanding" is just an attack, because next you acuse Christians of being polytheistic.

>>214494880
God became man, he can do it because he is God, he did it to die for our evil actions so that we don't have to be punished for them. God is just and has to punish evil but he loves us so much that he took the punishment on himself so that we could go free IF we choose to believe in him.

>>214494937
don’t be mean, its a complicated concept and the logic for why things are seen that way was originally a mystery that catholics needed to be primed to accept, just like Scientology. The idea of three beings being one at the same time requires you to reject the western concept that for a scenario there can only be one truth, and that there can’t be contradictory truths. This is an element common to many religions, mine own included, but it does go against conventional thought.

>>214494974
>God is just and has to punish evil but he loves us so much that he took the punishment on himself so that we could go free IF we choose to believe in him.
only if you believe in penal substitutionary atonement. I prefer the ransom theory of atonement

>>214495011
4chan is made to ragebait desu

>>214495011
It's a "complicated concept" just as any other miracle that is only understood and accepted via faith.

So a donkey flies to the moon with mohammed on the back, and in no way do you question where is the logic in that, and think you didn't need to be "primed", it's not "comlicated" to you despite it being against nearly every science, and according to you it's a completely "typical thought".

So your problem is thinking God as creator of thought and logic has to submit to his creation. It goes against conventional thought because the nature of God goes far beyond your conventional thought.

>>214494974
How can god die on the cross though?

>>214495126
>how can omnipotent do thing?!

>>214495078
>ransom theory of atonement
explain plez

>>214495109
im not a christian nor a muslim.

>>214495176
if you are unfamiliar with different atonement theories, I'd suggest reading about them, for example on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Atonement_in_Christianity

>>214495172
God is an all powerful being and is immortal so how can he die?

>>214495323
It's in the definition of omnipotent.
Turns out he resurrects later.

>>214495323
He is all power full so he can do it but don't worry man, he came back 3 days later, he can come back from the dead because he is all power full

>>214495323
died in what sense? Cease to exist? spiritually?
Jesus's body died in this plane but he was able to ressurect it, spiritually god never died, the human body he created died because he allowed it

>>214496163
If Jesus is also man and God wouldn't that mean God himself also died?

>>214492434 (OP)
I thought there were more atheists that Christians in this country. Then I realized that there's actually way more christcucks you never see because they stay in their self-sustaining communities and don't interact with us heathenous outsiders.

>>214496202
You're mistaking the physical realm with spiritual realm.
God manifested himself physically and that physical body died. That why I asked "death" in what sense?
The existential sense that we cease to exist? No.
The body physically failing to keep homeostasis? yes

>>214496202
Yes God took the place of the sacrificial lamb and died and resurrected by the power of Himself

>>214492434 (OP)
never was. my grandfather was a communist. learned a lot from him and the plague that is religion

What took you so long?

>>214494357
this is the biggest atheist cope, most christians do go to mass, and most do understand and know the core concepts and tenets

>>214496573
Based grandpa

>>214494027
>>214494713

>>214496688
But it literally doesnt matter as long as you take the communion anyway

>>214492434 (OP)
yeah

for how long were you a christcuck

>>214494444
Salam

>>214494458
>the second largest religion
Can Americans be Muslim?

>>214494769
you think lesbians really make an exception for chad? damn, in another life I could've had a chance with the lesbian I fell in love with

>>214496982
they really are like this, how can you know anything is true if god isn't true.
At least the honest skeptics understand this

How can Christcucks cope with the fact that YAHWEH was merely a storm god that latter, some desert people turned him into a Creator God?
I'm not even against God as a concept but learning history I'm pretty sure all Gods from established religious are fake

>>214494027
Being gay makes you doubt the existence of god, not the other way around.

>>214499433
The only fact here is that this is your opinion.

>>214499370
Nah a lot of Americans hate Muslims and Islam a lot

>>214499460
Makes sense, not many people are able to face the truth that they're doing something wrong.

>>214499460
Being God makes you doubt the existence of gays?

>>214494713
>NOOO! YOU NEED TO PICK LE SIDE! HOW DARE YOU NOT CARE ABOUT MY MADE UP LABELS?

>>214499517
Yes ultimately you need to pick a side you dumb fuck.

I like Christianism because the other option would be living in a country fulll of Reddit atheists retards.

>>214499572
Christianity isn't the only religion though

>>214499577
>muzzies
Don't like them, except the way they handle their women
>hinduism
Satanism that keeps cursing India.
>all the philosopical gook religions
They don't even have a real God lol

>>214494843
I don't hate Christianity but I think like the vast majority of its teachings are from Paul having mystical visions and not what Jesus and John the baptist were preaching, which was of a heavily apocalyptic nature aimed squarely against the Roman's that's been heavily downplayed ever since.
And personally it's never felt right that the ethical and moral teachings became secondary to the metaphysics of Jesus being God.
>>214499624
Stoicism and Neoplatonism both have outlooks that I would say are compatible with the idea of there's 1 supreme capital G God. Really a lot of hellenistic philosphy does

>>214499482
history is not an opinion

>>214492434 (OP)
I've never held theological beliefs but I can't help but imagine going holding such beliefs associated worldview to uncoupling yourself from them, would be rather physiologically intense. How do you feel no longer holding such beliefs?

>>214494713
kek

>>214499884
Not OP but it is a little fucked that you can't put the genie back in the bottle and trick yourself into believing again when you've read all this shit about how if there is no God then life is inherently meaningless. Like the brain just doesn't accept it all at once, the scales fall from the eyes, you see that there is truly no justice in this world, no being who counts the tears of oppressed and hated. There's no messiah or age to come where everything will be made right, where all manner of man's inhumanity to fellow man will be reckoned and all the blood spilled will have meaning put to it.
Losing this feels like finding out your parents actually are having their house foreclosed and have been closeted meth addicts your whole life and you're only realizing once you see all your belongings on the side of the curb in trash bags.
I try not to think about finding a new belief and still be kind and empathetic towards others the best I can while studying history philosphy and other religions, just trying to find what common thread runs through our various human beliefs.

>>214500028
Thanks for sharing your insights, anon.

>>214499545
Why?

>>214500112
Because special snowflake anon thinks he's a big deal for picking a boot to lick.

aliyah status?

>>214492434 (OP)
Cringe
Jesus saves

>>214496782
>hetero women are nearly more gay than gay women
kek

>>214499781
your interpretation is an opinion

>>214499433
The male war-god of heaven is a universal (Catholic) belief as the natural law implies this kind of God. YHWH being a storm god, the same as Jupiter and Zeus, is an affirmation, not evidence contrary, of God's universality and the natural law persistent in the human psyche. His merging with El or Elohim, the war god and leader of heaven is a return to form. El is coincidentally identified as Ptah by the Egyptians in another incident of returning to form Christianity, specifically Catholicism, is the successor to the patriarchal religion of the Proto-IndoEuropeans where Dyeus Pter rules all and has subjected the divine feminine to his household. Just as the PIE killed all the Mother-worshipping farmers of the Chalcolithic world, the Catholic Spaniards destroyed the Aztec religion that decreed the war god Huitzilopoctil was birthed by the mother-god Coatlicue (making the war-father inferior to the life-mother). Every civilization that worshipped the war-god of heaven (Tengri, Tian, Inazuma...) has prospered but matriarchy has always failed, and this matriarchy has made its way back into vogue due to the moral degeneration of society. Therefore, it is important to not fret over identitarian word games but commit yourself to the only thing that can elevate you, since nothing else can as proven by history.