Thread 214498799

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Read the wiki:
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Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
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>Books on linguistics and language courses:
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>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
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>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
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>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
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>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

>>214425530

Do this :

>>214498817

I like saying "ach-laut" and "ich-laut"

Learn French, Spanish or Russian. Be normal for once

>>214498896
GUIDE on how to pronounce German 'ich' (I)
Ich [ıç] (German Standard German)
Ich [ıx] (Swiss German)
I [i]/[ı] (Swabian, some Alemannic, some Austro-Bavarian)
Ik [ık] (Northern/former Low Saxon regiolect)
Isch [ıʃ] (Rhine-Franconian accent/dialect, optimal if you can't pronounce /x/)
Isch [ıʃʷ] (migrant German, with rounded lips, if you want to sound like a retard)
Esch [ɛʃ] (Moselle Franconian, including Cologne and Luxemburg)

the only language worth learning is Chinese

>>214499116
this Iranian woman says Chinese and Arabic are the best languages for making money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI7q61sbUM4

>>214498930
What about hessian ?

>>214499269
Originally pic related. Now it’s just ‘ich’ and sometimes ‘isch’ (dark orange) where it borders RLP and around Frankfurt.

> This song from Hesse will be played at my funeral

Ich möcht gern:
Quell-Kartoffel und Dupp-Dupp, Erbsesuppe und Worscht
Pommes Frittes mit Ketchup und 'en Bier für de dorschtt
Quell-Kartoffel und Dupp-Dupp, Erbsesuppe und Worscht
Pommes Frittes mit Ketchup und 'en Bier für de dorscht

Saarland accent is also a bit… interesting. Swabian is even more wild.
Too and this language is SO DIFFICULT

>रहा
Is a verbal inflection that stablishs order do continuum, a particle of continuum aspect.

IPA : voiced alveolar trill, mid-centrall vowel, voiced glottal fricate, open frontal vowel.

>>214499528
saarland has two dialects. the eastern one is almost identical to the palatine german, the western one is luxemburgish light

>>214499649
Wow, that’s even more complex.
Do you know if Hamburg (my Oma) and low saxony (my Opa) have a distinctive accent ?. No idea if they even have a dialect.

>>214499890
Low Saxony and Hamburg originally had Low Saxon or Low German, a distinct language. It has become quite rare. https://youtu.be/_7ZdE-msDOQ?si=g9HqCJBZkWDcUQNQ
Now they have a northern accent, where they often replace g with ch 'Tach' instead of 'Tag', 'wech' instead of 'weg'.
check out this website
https://www.atlas-alltagssprache.de/runde-2/f19a-b/
https://www.atlas-alltagssprache.de/runde-2/f01/

>>214500132
dunno if there's a good example on yt, as most speakers have either a standard dutch (video) or a standard german accent

>>214500132
The video sounded weird … more Dutch than German :( . Low saxony and NRW are pretty close to each other too but j assume NRW has a more standard dialect.
I didn’t know Hamburg was also low German. Ok not anymore but historically sure

>>214500225
hamburg would sound similar to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HcnhHmT6P4

I am doing Ukrainian for Speakers of English, please can any Ukrainian speakers correct me. There is one exercise where I have to write a short dialogue including some impersonal sentences.

Cкaжiть, бyдь лacкa, чoмy вoнa швидкo пливe?
>Бo вoнa pибa. Pиби пливyть швидкo.
A чoмy вiн нe пливe швидкo?
>Бo вiн кoт. Кoти зoвciм нe пливyть!
Aлe я iнoдi дивюcя кoти плиcти нa Ютyб!
>Taк, дeщo кoти вмiють плиcти, aлe кoти звичaйнo нe вмiють плиcти.
Чи мoжнa тyди плиcти?
>Hi, кaжyть нe мoжнa плиcти тyди.
Чoмy нi? Я хoчy плиcти тyди!
>Бo бaгaтo мeдyзи живyть тaм!

can someone give me a germanic or romance equivalent of the distance from Ukrainian to Russian?

>>214500285
probably hochdeutsch -> bairisch?

>>214500302
you can learn to understand bairisch with enough exposure without having to learn anything. is that accurate?

Good job making it to the bump limit, everybody. I'm proud of you.

>>214500285
random guesses but
Occitan and Catalan
French and Walloon
Portuguese and Galician

It's like devanagari, but cool

>>214500242
I’m disappointed because it sounds a bit Dutch

>>214500484
it's a bit closer to dutch but in theory has the same distance to both languages

decent speed vlog that isn't too fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp39Lx4fbUk
maybe I should find different genres of vlog but booktube is always chill and has attractive women

Swiss German is very different...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNPaatK6dfg

>>214501018
A Swiss settlement I visited in Wisconsin just referred to Swiss German as "Swiss."

>>214501018
still closer to standard german than any real low german/low franconian dialect

2€ for a cup of coffee, did i wake up in dystopia? fucking hell. anyway, done my anki reps on the train and watched some spanish videos. so glad i don’t have to go to work by car and can just study in the morning. feels good
>>214501031
i do too, and mostly consider it its own language. its grammar is different and spoken it is often enough almost entirely incomprehensible to germans

>>214501092
A German international student I spoke to in college confirmed what you said.

I remember referring to Swiss German as "Swiss" on 4chubs and I was mocked to oblivion for it. I forgot what board I was on, but I feel smugly vindicated now.

>>214500285
From what my Russian and Ukie friends told me (this was before the war so less bad blood) it's like Italian and Spanish

>>214501092
>2€ for a cup of coffee
Got the Morrisons Own Brand, me

I can't tell due to not being able to read Chinese. Is this still actively used, anons?

>>214503237
It says the group leader rejects adding any new members
And only two people are active

>>214499375
>ik
That's Dutch
>>214500285
Catalan and Spanish. Norwegian and Danish or Norwegian and Swedish. Or these northern dialects of German compared to different German dialects (while Dutch is Polish). Ukrainian and Russian are very similar to each other, but Ukrainian, the pure Ukrainian, is halfway between Russian and Polish, at least in the vocabulary and a bit different grammar. But most of them speak Russian with some Ukrainian words or surzyk

>>214503902
Dutch was considered Low German (but not Low Saxon) until WW2

>>214503742
Ah. Thank you.

bump

How many languages can you realistically know very well while living a normal life and having other hobbies?

>>214505633
One

>>214500278
bump please where are the slavs

>>214505744
So it's English only

>>214500285
Spanish and Italian, maybe slightly less, maybe not.

>>214505633
Your native language. English, because it's lingua franca. Also the local language, the language where you live right now. And one non-local language you're learning.
That makes it 4 or 5. If you used a language to live in a country, communicate, read literature etc and not just learned it. And you used for several year, you will probably keep at least B2/C1 level for the rest of your life.


>>214500278
>Бo вoнa pибa. Pиби пливyть швидкo.
A чoмy вiн нe пливe швидкo?
Good

>Бo вiн *кiт*. Кoти зoвciм нe пливyть!
Aлe я iнoдi *дивлюcя як* кoти *плaвaють* нa Ютyб!

>Taк, *дeякi* кoти вмiють плиcти, aлe кoти звичaйнo нe вмiють плиcти.
Чи мoжнa тyди плиcти?

>Hi, кaжyть нe мoжнa плиcти тyди.
Чoмy нi? Я хoчy плиcти тyди!
good

>Бo бaгaтo *мeдyз* живyть тaм!

>>214506263
Sorry polack you'll never have a normal life

>>214500285
maybe less than Spanish and Italian. Grammatically they are like Spanish and Portuguese. Phonetically like Spanish and Italian. And lexically like Spanish and Italian.

>>214505633
Three to four

>>214506406
How many Ukies really speak Ukrainian, as opposed to Surzhyk? Will that number increase because of the war, or no do you think?

>>214506328
Spanish and Italian are much farther apart than Norwegian and Swedish or Bavarian and High German. Can you learn to understand Ukrainian as a Russian without studying/reading about it? By exposure alone?

>>214506446
I'd say 3/5 spoke Ukrainian and 2/5 spoke Russian in like 2010. That said all Ukrainians were billingual at least listening and reading.

Now many Russian speakers already have switched to Ukrainian and also most don't consume anything in Russian anymore. I guess the amount of surzhyk will temporarily stay the same, because while some have put an effort to speak Ukrainian well, others are in the middle of switching.

There are also more kids and adolescents, who speak little Russian.

>>214506484
Yes. Ukrainian phonology is probably the easiest among all Slavic languages. Grammar as I said is closer than Spanish and Italian. So the difficult part is lexicon and usage and it's the part that exposure works great for if you're mindful.

>>214506832
>>214506484
So with exposure listening and reading is straightforward to master, but production is trickier.

So it will be
1. German, Italian, Japanese
2. French, Norwegian/Swedish, Japanese
3. Norwegian/Swedish, Italian, Japanese
Maybe Spanish instead of a Scandinavian language or Italian. But I want to know one of those two: French or Italian, and I'd also like to learn Japanese someday

>>214507073
my languages will be
French, Norwegian, Brazilian Portuguese, Russian, classical languages and maybe Japanese but I hate Japanese learners irl.

>>214507231
>maybe Japanese but I hate Japanese learners irl.
I've had this happen to people learning German, or simply Germanophiles. Now, along with the standard unbearable liberal Poles, I've also seen nazi Indians online. But I do like the language unfortunately

>>214507395
I meant I hate German learners and Germanophiles, even though I'm one of them

>>214500408
I mostly shitpost but it does help to keep the thread alive

>>214507481
Schizophrenia much? so you're like one of those, who only like Austria and Bavaria or what?
Myself I speak some Spanish and on the fence
whether to learn French or German.

>>214507231
Japanese learners IRL are normal in my experience. The weird ones stay in their room

>>214507395
used to do paid german tutoring online and also helped out in online communities for free and my god this language attracts the worst people you could think of. i think i deeply hated like 60% of the people i had to deal with. heritage niggers from the us aren’t even the worst, those are mostly quitters anyway that you can make a quick buck off of, rather, there is this specific kind of autistic normie tranny that’s strangely drawn to germany. i’m sure this exists for every language, but those adhd monkey trannies are the most obnoxious. they also seem to learn about political language related niche trends before they learn how to say hello
i stopped teaching language though and got a real job now
>>214507481
honestly it’s kind of rare to bump into poles who want to learn german. i’m under the impression most of you hate our guts and your news constantly talk about us and how your country is sold to us somehow (i really have no clue, nobody talks about poland here and i’m unaware of us buying up your country). the liberals i thought would moreso be francophiles, france has so many of those retarded pan-europe shitlibs whom nobody likes. and gastarbajter don’t need to know german, so i kind of never really met a polish person who willingly learns german lol (i.e. not in school)

>>214507695
No, I've written about this some time ago, but there's a group of people in Poland who, when they see a German fall on his butt, will kick their own butts. They are very often liberals, oikophobes, and political-obsessed awful people. And now there are /pol/-indians everywhere on the internet

What are some interesting original content in ukranian?

>>214507929
>how your country is sold to us somehow
The polish libtard media is owned by germans. The current government makes strange decisions that benefit german interests more than polish interests.

>>214506328
>*дивлюcя як*
>плaвaють
what is this verb form? i do not know anything apart from infinitives and present tense yet
>дeякi
why not дeщo ? i thought дeщo meant "some (things)
>бaгaтo *мeдyз*
interesting. so in ukrainian if you say "many" then you have to use the singular form of the noun? as opposed to english where you use the plural (e.g. you have to say "many people" instead of "many person")?

cпacибi дpyг, yкpaїнcькa мoвa вaжкo

>>214507929
>is sold to us somehow
mainly due to EU regulations, because Germany, France, and even Sweden or Italy manage to get something in the EU. Our liberals don't do that, and conservatives are outsmarted. Among the recent loud cases, ordinary people are complaining about pellets, blocking nuclear energy, and sabotaging the construction of airports and railways modernization
>we don't need that because these exist in Germany
But the main point is that Germanophiles are those mentioned insufferable "pan-europe shitlibs whom nobody likes" or some (doubtful) heritage fags aciting like Indians with their caste system. This often triggers a reaction in the opposite direction. I mean, German politicians aren't pro polish but it's normal, they are German politicians. Pro German Poles are a mix of Nazi propaganda, libertarian anarchism and pan european globalism. It's cargo cult and I have to deal with these people almost everyday bc they're like Jehova Witnesses
>>214508544
Cool anime dubbs. For literature, check out everyone named Jurij

>>214509021
> ordinary people are complaining about pellets, blocking nuclear energy
>why are we so dependent on Russia for oil
do europeans really do this

>>214509113
I wrote a whole paragraph, but deleted it because I don't want to be more political. Let's talk about the learning technique of the month or which language I should (not)commit to learning

>>214509612
中文

>>214507073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi_dyZrkDNk

>>214508935
Swimming has more verbs and forms than usual in Ukrainian. It doesn't matter much.. Пливyть is also fine. Don't worry about that.

дeщo means something, it's a pronoun, not an adjective

Meдyз is plural in accusative case.

>>214508544
All stuff this war related.

I also value Taras Shevchenko and Lesya Ukrainka a lot, but many other past and contemporary writers not much. These two have a very unique intensity to their writing. Shevchenko, he's like Homer. It doesn't make any sense that he's from 19th century. He makes your tremble. Lesya Ukrainka is among the most admirable, strong female personalities in the literary world.

I've heard even before the war, that our some of our contemporary art-house like literature is appreciated by youth in Europe. But I personally didn't find the appeal. Maybe that's just me.

Ukrainian as I said has neat phonology, it is a musical language and Ukrainians are musically inclined people. There are many talents. And I think Ukrainian music worth a listen if not learning the language.

I guess that's not much, but that's what comes to mind. We also have good dubs, our dubbing school is strong and publish a lot of books, many translations, and they are cheap to buy or free to pirate. But that's not original content.

>>214509928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ef3s53ppHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUYzbSkPsc
I like how clear and 3d dimensional the sound in RE4 is.

post your anki stats

I saw a large group of Russian or Ukrainian speakers again and imo Russian has become the most useful language in Germany. There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of them here and they speak almost no English.

>>214511711
693 day streak.

>>214511780
Don't they speak german?

>>214512398
Ukrainians? it takes some time

>>214511711
i'm winning, dad

>>214512476
How do they survive in a country without speaking the language? How do they find work or rent an apartment?

>>214511711
card instability has reached supercriticality... i'm scared...

>>214512610
Russian is really common, those offices have someone who translates and they get much help

>>214512662
also German is not needed for construction or harvesting.

>>214511780
>Russian has become the most useful language in Germany.
even more than Turkish?

>>214512697
Um actually they all assimilated properly and speak fluent German okay?

>>214512662
It's ridiculous. I have no sympathy for people who move to another country and won't even bother to learn the local language. But europe is so cucked that immigrants are above the native population, so I'm not surprised. When I apply for jobs, I see a ukr*inian language option on the website.

>>214512697
roughly equal but the divide is too big and it would be awkward

>>214507929
Hey, I just like Germany, the culture and the language. I'm not on any WW2 weirdness at all. I couldn't be if I wanted to; I'm not white. But even then I wouldn't be.

Here’s the study plan
Autumn: French
Winter: Russian
Spring: Norwegian Bokmaal
Summer: Brazilian Portuguese

>>214513880
Based for sorting by Season, I do the same
Autumn - French (Naturally)
Winter - Russian
Spring - German
Summer - Italian

I'm depressed with how little I have done with my TL. I was way more productive when I was a NEET. Now whenever I have free time i just do absolutely nothing. I have accepted mediocrity and there's no escape.

Russian, German : which one to try out first ?

>>214515267
German

>>214515267
russian

Looking at google maps periodically increases your language learning abilities.

>>214515267
Sanskrit (or latin)

>>214500472
यह अक्षरशः देवनगरी मे भद्दा है।

>spends more time gathering learning materials, textbooks, books, audiobooks, tv shows, subtitles, installing extensions, configuring settings, finding anki decks, and researching learning methods than he spends actually inputting
You guys don't do this... right?

Are you happy with your TL progress?

I've done at least an hour of Spanish input every day this week.

>>214518750
What are you inputting?

>>214518786
basically porn

>>214518808
based

you have to learn one historical language that is not ancient greek or latin. What do you choose?

>>214520285
Old Norse
Classical Chinese

Japanese progress update: Slowly making my way through To Love-Ru. I might have to find something new to input though. It has furigana on all the kanji and it makes it difficult to actually learn the characters. It's too easy to rely on the furigana. It also makes me horny which is distracting to say the least.

>>214520285
sanskrit

>>214520285
If there were real resources I would learn Old Frankish. The ancestor of Dutch, closely related to German and English, and it left a substrate in my dialect

>>214498799 (OP)
How or where can I get Russian and German anki cards ? There’s only Spanish

>>214520285
old norse or hebrew

>>214520522
there are many shared decks for almost every language on ankiweb

>>214520387
>It also makes me horny which is distracting to say the least.
You are more likely to remember things if you are horny, actually.

>>214520698
I just downloaded it on my of so I wasn’t sure as it seems you have to create folders or something. Thanks

>>214520736
This doesn't sound right but I choose to believe it's true

>>214520285
Definitely old norse since there's actually a modern language that still resembles it

>>214498930
some retard at my highschool HAD TO pronounce it Isch because Till Lindemann from Rammtein said Isch.

AFTER the teacher told him it was an accent. and the amerimutt that wasn't even German told us to pronounce it EE kh.

I can pronounce x, but thanks for the explanation that it is [ıç] I will make sure never to pronounce a shh but make a gutteral sound and clicks

>>214519192
25k+ erotic short stories in Swedish: https://www.sexnovell.se/

Unironically feel like there's often decent resources that most people would never mention.

>>214515267
I do both at the same time. Russian so far has taken a lot more effort and paid off less. German is way easier because I challenge myself with monnspeak. I get lost in the lyrics of Russian rap as I am trying to listen and read to words I have never heard of before in my life. very unfamiliar.

Nastya on YouTube is making her students write down a dictionary of 10,000 words. hopefully that will help.
>>214499227

could your Muslim third world money be harder to earn? I would rather learn Brazilian Portuguese thanks.

>>214520736
it still distracts me from doing math. so it doesn't matter how much it helps. useless, like vitamins.

>>214521127
isch with the english sh is the based pronunciation. ç is an ugly sound that I had to learn later in life

Learning Spanish has made me transphobic because I now fucking hate pronouns

>>214520285
not Greek or Latin? that's tough.
I would be a smart ass and go for Chinese or Arabic that translate to being helpful in the modern era. which I should do anyway. Indian languages too.

but there would be nothing interesting to read in brown languages except mythology about gods, incest, "glamour" and vanity, the works. third world stone age shit.

Has to be ancient Greek. or Chinese depending on your rules.

>>214520736
my theory is that knowledge is retained from edging, if you ejaculate, you lose what you have retained.

>>214520285
Akkadian

>>214521440
sounds like the case of the retardation of calling a normal thing a Fitnessstudio. or Teammeeting. or even Handy or Chance or any other bastardization of English loanwords.

as a Latin American I would get shit on if I did that with Spanish, I am not doing that. I mean I will and I do get the sense to call it Ish, but I would not consider it "based" to learn after my oppressors. those are not my values, that is a mistake.

>>214520736
>>214521022
Behold
https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearningjerk/comments/10j57jp/passing_jlpt_n1_with_the_power_of_nukige_my_study/

Language Reactor's ASR actually works pretty well. Now you can generate accurate captions for any content with no effort, this shit is a game changer. Best part is that it's free.

>बस
Adverb
>यूँ
Adverb
>ही
Emphatic particle

>>214521327
Hmmm
Thanks.
Yes makes sense as Russian has a more intense grammar although not as bad as western Slavic but still. So you’d be A1 for a while whereas German not for too long I assume

>>214521803
>I’d basically edge myself while reading nukige as I wanted to see how the story progressed and all the H-scenes, which meant that some days I’d be edging for 7-8 hours straight
Putting the gooning into inputgooning.

after trying to learn the Arabic script, I conclude this language is harder than Japanese

>>214521868
Link?

>>214522083
https://www.languagereactor.com/video-file

>>214521868
"Harig" is a good word. The usual word for "cowardly" is "feg", but anyone who's ever met a hare will know why "hare'y" kinda means the same thing.

>>214522111
It works like whisper ai?

>>214522037
I'm 2 years in of Nastya's notes, it has been hell but she teaches you so you learn it.

I am barely watching yaroslava Russian, Russian with Max and other bicycle training wheels YouTube channels, but it has been a hard earned 2 years of Russian. I do not go by the strip mall karate belt rankings that is A2 proficiency. you are either mother tongue fluent or you are not.

>>214522066
Arabic is easily harder than Russian and mandarin Chinese, if not the hardest language. I rank it the hardest next to shit I do not care about and will not get me a head in life regarding money.

>>214522211
Aw ok…. Idk about Nastya, there’s so many Russian teachers in Italki however

>>214522678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSQn7YfbNxc

Nastya's free don't waste your money. buy her a coffee for me, she is a great teacher.

Pls tell me if I'm pronouncing 'Wirscher' correctly. Thank you.
https://voca.ro/117HW64ERMxC

>>214522860
I low key wanna fuck her in the ass, shorty looks like she has fat legs and a cellulitic nasty fat ass.

her last name tells me she is an Italian that moved to Russia. fucking delicious.

for me, it's Inna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFyXGKECMp0

>>214522860
Thanks, so it's free Youtube videos - Will try this and see. Although, I need to take notes or have another type of support for learning. Then... find a tutor on Italki

>>214522939
She's not fat

>>214521868
Meh, spoke too soon. Other than the occasional small mistake, it sometimes skips lines entirely.
Oh well, better than nothing I guess.

>>214523057
Do you also take notes while listening to free youtube videos (not a 1 on 1 class) ? ty

>>214524512
Sounds like whisper

>>214524631
no, I've been lazy personally and I just watch youtube videos with the subtitles.
one tip is to go to the bottom of the description and open the transcript (may not be 100% accurate if it's youtube's auto-generated subtitles). then you can copy and paste words into a dictionary more easily, or better yet use the Yomitan extension to look up words on the spot

>>214515267
Did jordie move to Canada? Since when?

>>214522066
In Arabic you get filtered by the dialects
In Japanese you get filtered by the alphabet(s)

>>214525525
>>214525651
>flag
wtf, how is luanda

>>214525742
>luanda
pretty nice actually, came to visit parents

>>214525130
I see… so you store words and I guess you translate it (like anki). Never heard of Yomitan…

>>214525525
>>214525651
Bandeira rara, você é da Angola mesmo?

>>214527658
frocatove sounds like a drink

Do your friends and family know you spend your free time learning a language that is of very little value to you? For me, people point out that I'm objectively retarded for working on Spanish instead of improving my French. But learning Spanish to me is fun, while French just feels awful.

>>214520285
etruscan
i wish that one dictionary of it survived to the modern day

>>214528605
There are writings that haven't been deciphered yet. I bet it will be largely deciphered eventually.

>>214528073
They'll disown you for being a dabbler

>>214528073
I decided to focus on French first for that reason. but I'm gonna learn useless languages after this anyway

Worth it ? In USD

>>214529707
Because I get audio + sentences so that’s mainly why… 300 words isn’t a awful amount either

imagine learning English with this girl's accent. kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITkCCW1sBLs

Can someone give me tips on starting to learn Hungarian ? AI answers are fine

>>214520285
I have a big personal interest and a little dabbling in Classical Chinese already, so that.

I have been doing recently 100/day on anki...doing the 5k frequent deck on anki, anyone have similar experience doing such? I have no problem really with the amount of reviews, but am I sabotaging myself doing so many new cards a day...? (Time isn't an issue)

I work for a library and we get aggregate statistics from our online language learning program (Transparent Language).

Not one library patron is using this program consistently except for one who is learning Czech. CZECH. The stats are totally skewed.

talm bout dat DEEP guttural French fulla throaty phlegm

मुझे पेशाब कारी चाहिए।

The Argüelles lang-incelwalk
https://youtu.be/VdheWK7u11w

>उसका
>/uska/
>उस + का
Pronoun-postposition contraction tgat agrees with masculine objects.

>उस
Demontrative, singular, distal and oblique pronoun that agrees with sentences building with postpositiom and serves as logical subject complishinh the grammar subject.
>का
Postposition similiar to the genitive particle apostrophe 's in English, mark possesive case.

>>214535529
Looks like a chadwalk to me

how does one learn the scottish accent?

English spelling is a logography

Has anyone ever replied to him yet (you know who I'm talking about)

>>214539090
who?

schizilian

I'm a native English speaker, and know Spanish and enough Japanese to read novels. Since Dutch is a West Germanic language like English, how long do you anons think it'll take to get a comfortable grasp of it if I read/listen casually? Thing is, I spend most of my time with Japanese media (I like novels), but a good buddy of mine is Dutch, so I feel like it'd be chill to be able to engage with him and his crowd more. I pick up phrases/words here and there, but I always have a history of going into language learning too intensely, so I kind of hope Dutch would be chill and low stress enough to not be a big endeavor on top of my other languages. I don't even know how I'd use it besides chatting with my buddy and his friends/community.

>>214533160
Only if you can handle the workload relatively quickly without it impeding your actual content consumption. Anki review bullshit should never be a huge portion of your learning, but a small supplement. You should be spending the grand majority of your time reading target language books and listening to/watching raw content. Some people can handle/time-manage Anki and benefit from it. Others like myself get caught up in it and treat it like a job, stressing more than learning and having fun. It's never been for me, but if you find benefit and enjoy it, I see no harm. Just don't let it become a measurement of your competence, and don't waste too much time agonizing over it.
>>214529707
Bear in mind that I do not speak Russian, but for any language, the "most common" words and phrases are going to be things you'd encounter naturally through raw content without needing to rely on such a resource, especially one that costs money. I have zero doubt there are SRS/Anki decks for this kind of thing if you really want it anyway, but do what you enjoy.

>>214529707
People who want to push the responsibility for their own progress onto someone else, be it a teacher or a textbook, never get very far in language learning.

>>214533160
I used to do 40/day and it was very mentally taxing by the end, 90 minutes daily of solid reviews and total concentration on anki. Definitely beneficial but quite difficult (although it was in Chinese so learning new words is a bit harder than other languages). I don't think I would have been able to cope with 100 new per day, I would usually forget 3-5 of the cards I learnt the next day with 40, so with 100 I might forget up to 15...
try it yourself for a bit and see what your retention rate is

>>214529707
Pink tax in action
Just get a phrasebook and a frequency dictionary

>>214540466
why did it take you so long? spending 2 minutes on a card is definitely not how most learners use Anki, even learners of Chinese and Japanese using monolingual cards

>>214538153
English spelling is just following proper stroke order

>>214541035
it wasn't only 40 cards, it was 40 new cards + 150-200 review cards. So more like 200 cards in total. It would be more like 10-15 seconds per card average
also every time I forgot a word or saw a new word I would write it down in my notebook which would take a while

>>214540200
anki should be 90% of your study as a beginner

>>214541297
I first used Anki, when I began reading English novels. My literary register vocab was found lacking and so I made an Anki deck from ABBYY Lingvo dictionary and thesaurus. It took me a while to find SRS settings that didn't suck. I settled on the following: if the interval was more than 10 days, the next interval would be in the stratosphere.

I think, because the entries weren't simple and there was thesaurus data in them, I got more value from each card.

>>214529707
learn2pirate

whats the cap for new cards on anki without losing a huge chunk of your recall rating. 20? 25?

I feel like fucking Jordie. I'm B2 in French but bored and lonely and don't particularly like French. I signed up for an Intro to Portuguese night course at a local university, but I'm having second thoughts.

My night class options:
>Portuguese at university
>No real use or love for Portuguese but wouldn't mind learning it. Could move to Portugal in the distant future. There's an A1, A2, and B1 course, each like 24 weeks long.
>Latin at university
>One 24 week course. Apparently the 1st half is "grammar", the 2nd half is "reading selections from texts". Sounds like a shitty 19th century curriculum, but I like history and linguistics and it sounds like a smaller commitment imo to just learn to read a bit?
>Spanish at Instituto Cervantes
>Expensive courses, they look similar to the Alliance Francaise which I found crazy overpriced and felt kinda scammy. Spanish aligns better with some of my interests than Portuguese, but idk if I'd ever live there, I'm not particularly in love with the culture either.

My fear I guess is I take Portuguese, don't like it, then take Spanish instead and feel like I'm wasting time because I'd be treading over very similar content. Latin could be a fun supplement to French but the course sounds shitty so I could just postpone it and learn something else more useful irl instead?

/blog

>>214543537
It depends on how well your memory works, how immersed you're and so on.

my friend, who's learning Japanese has a very good visual memory for kanji and learnt them (without the readings) in like 1-2months without much hassle. He almost didn't make any mistakes during reviews.

Learning words is not so easy for him, and he makes more mistakes during reviews. Hence the amount of new words and SRS settings are different.

Which Slavic language is the most satisfying to learn ?
West Slav (slovak, čestina, polish…)
Serbian etc
East slav (UA, RU, BY)

>>214540200
Yeah but you don’t hear prononciation with Anki, correct ?

>>214545252
You can add audio to the cards.

>>214544023

I'd take Latin, it won't be too hard and would help with French, Spanish or Portugese later.

Latin only need to learn to read it anyway so if you can get that locked up in 24 weeks its pretty sound.

>>214545301
Whattt….
Dude I need to watch some tutorials because I downloaded it in my PC

>>214544023
stick with it dude you got so far already why tf would you learn a new language????

>>214544023
how long have you been learning?

>>214544023
Learn Portuguese, and you'll get Spanish for free. They're very similar, so once you know Portuguese, learning Spanish will be easy and fast.

Is is best to learn German or a Slavic language (not sure which one yet) first ?

>>214546216
German. More resources/content and you'll have an easier time learning it as a native English speaker compared to something Slavic.

>>214539965
it's probably worth it if you have Dutch friends to talk to. I don't know how long it takes but it's supposed to be one of the easier languages for an English speaker according to the FSI

>>214545362
>Latin in 24 weeks
no chance lmao. you might be able to stumble through one real text in that time, maybe Caesar

>>214545545
>>214545758
I've been learning French on and off for 10 years. I was hoping to meet a French qt or maybe move to Switzerland/France but it never really happened. I met someone else instead.
I hit a roadblock because I'm a weirdo autist who doesn't really like watching tv/movies or reading fiction. There's not a whole lot of French content or culture that interests me. There's definitely some, but in general the English equivalent content is higher quality/more varied so I get lazy and watch in English instead.

>>214546034
That is true actually, I forgot about that. Anyone know how much effort it takes to learn to understand the other if you know one? I think for natives it takes a bit of training your ear but isn't hard. Idk about learners, if it's only like a C1+ thing.

>>214545362
Yeah that's what I'm sorta leaning towards. Honestly just reading basic Latin and getting the gist of the grammar is all I need. I'm not planning on reading the Aeneid or anything.

>>214546344
Could I learn the two together or would that be a mistake … I like both and started both so idk anymore. Weird to speak to a Serb as I have this friend that wants me to visit and scared to go because of the language

>>214547254
I've been to slavic villages without speaking the language. It's fine. Everyone has google translate. Just smile, be polite, and learn how to say hello, good bye, please, and thank you. They'll be very nice.

>>214547254
If you're new to language learning in general, you should stick with one for a while. Once you know what you're supposed to do, you can do multiple at the same time, the only disadvantage is that progress is slower.

>>214498799 (OP)
How do I change pirated Sims 4 language? I feel like it should be one of the best media to familiarize yourself.
Also reccomend more media exposure, especially for Deutsch

>>214528073
Being permanently smarter with the only profitable subject you can study is not of "little value". it is the most valuable thing you can study literally. and college is a scam.

Latin America the Caribbean parts of Africa and Asia and Spain are a huge area and there is sexo to be had. it will do you a lot of good to stop talking to Canadians, snow gringos in the near future.
they sound like that boxer girls family in million dollar baby, like white trash. absolutely preposterous.

>>214547793
> If you're new to language learning in general, you should stick with one for a while
Yeah you’re correct, my problem is I like too many all at once. Either you pick a language that’s spoken by many people and useful or you pick a random one and that’s 100000 harder. Even if German is technically the hardest, it’s still crazy and can’t go beyond a certain level. The most difficult part is “starting”.

>>214529707
that retard level shit is free on YouTube. everything they sell you is a scam.

the only thing you need is to grow some balls, and buy a dictionary. you don't even need a dictionary with Google, Google translate, and YouTube

its about hard work, don't buy that stupid shit. as a poorfag I literally barely buy an untranslated book at half price books and its a mystery bag what I'm going to get. keep your money retard.

>>214540466
>>214541297

nta but I did 10 cards a day of Japanese, occasionally bumping it up to 20-25 for a few days. I don't like when my daily Anki exceeds 30 minutes at the most, ideally closer to 15-20 minutes. Though the cards in my mining deck are far less painful to review than the premade core 2k/6k deck.

>>214544023
Instituto Cervantes sounds perfect but you would tell me I'm biased in shilling my shit. All Romance languages and Portuguese and Spanish are very similar. I don't see a problem with it. skill issue.

obvious answer is to stick with Spanish and just learn that one but honestly you sound like another racist little Karen princess, we don't want you here.

>mexican
>we don't want you here.
????

>>214547127
that's basically what I did, I put aside Latin for now to focus on a living language, but still learned the basics of grammar there. now I feel comfortable looking at the case system in languages like Russian, Greek, German. though obviously you can just learn it directly in any language, not like you need Latin as a middleman

>>214548049
You’d be a good teacher

>>214548376

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKlGXSDouMI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByWWaRox8EU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-UBbo5mZfk

Its not just Americans, Gringos have EMBOLDENED everyone that speaks English against my people to do a "little colonialism" Karen bitch princess shit. Worse than tourists in Japan.

The worst part is when Latin Americans do it, they are stupider than us and literal apes and we are not going to tolerate that.

>>214548508
oh you're one of those bad and lazy students who expects and feels entitled to tolerance and a high degree of adulthood from your teacher.

keep it real gangsta, mcdonald's is hiring.

>>214548049
Yeah but YouTube = only people giving lessons that aren’t individual, you need to make sure you take notes or stock words/phrasial structure on your own

>>214548948
Jewtube supplies you with world class teachers FOR FREE you cannot be more spoon fed. you expect me as a teacher to spoon feed you? its on you to value your education. didn't read your post I am not going to have my morning ruined by anger.

If I was teaching German or Russian or English in Mexico my students and their parents would talk non stop shit about how I am not German or Russian and unqualified for the job regardless of the work or expertise and professionalism I put into my job.

you do not have some nigger from an Indian village teaching you math, you have an actual qualified teacher from that country giving you world class education FOR FREE.

just read your shit, Canadian motherfucker, boo hoo I am not getting private lessons for free I need to put in hard work taking notes! what the fuck? shut the fuck up.

>>214548948
the videos, have a pause button. and in most cases subtitles.

>>214549181

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fmcRMs3ecQ&t=4s

World class teacher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdSde5fSgw&t=104s

world class teacher.

I hope you never get to starve. faggots.

>>214498799 (OP)
Mellon Collie = melancholy

I had a change of heart.
I almost made the blunder of learning a Middle Eastern language. If I will actually learn a language, I might as well learn a global, useful one.
SADLY, I can learn Russian to B2 but it's not relevant to my life to such an extent that I won't do that.
So, I am left with: French, Spanish, and German. Which one? ...And why?

>>214550023
Sanskrit (it is the mother of all languages).

I have two options:
>Actually pay and enroll in that 4 year Arabic academy and become an Arabic Gigachad.
>Put that same effort into a foreign language (Ger, Fre, or Esp).
Give me advice. I am not trolling.

>>214550098
>I stop trolling

>>214550208
If I actually get input and advice from here, I will actually make it happen and break the chains of indecisiveness.
Which of the following languages that will be the best to learn? German, French. and Spanish.
Stuff like:
>Fun content.
>Potential for sexo.
>Ease.
I think German's too dry, to be honest.

>>214550289
>I think German's too dry, to be honest.
Like your mum's sandpaper pussy you dirty arab cunt

>>214550317
I was about to blogpost and become a nasty troll all again but I am holding back in the hopes of actually getting advice.
Which language to learn?
Stop being a cunt.

>>214550289
Luxemburgish

>>214550023
disce linguam latīnam

>>214550023
For real though, you should learn German for economic reasons and figure out how to move there. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life in a shithole like Jordan? You should hurry up before they close the borders.

>>214550023
Think of all the countreis that speak spanish, and how many middle easterners there are in latam. Learn spanish!

can you queers stop responding to jordie? he fuckin admitted to coming here just to troll and you guys keep going at it

Learn German.

>>214552726
but then we wouldn't get hilarious lines such as
>but I am holding back in the hopes of actually getting advice.
he says, baring his teeth from behind the bars; every atom in his being ready to explode at a moment's notice

stop saying 'ist'. it's pronounced 'is'

>>214552726
I never talk to him.

>>214551895
oh hell no. oh well, he will go to Argentina or something.

>>214550023
>not relevant to my life
Nigga you Jordan. Nothing is relevant to your life.

Anyone here started Hungarian ?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283783768_The_Languages_We_Speak_Affect_Our_Perceptions_of_the_World

If you'd spoke every language in the world you could be near to understand everything, or at least be able to understand everyperception possible.

Is Polish dumb to learn as a second language ?

>>214552808
it's nice that there seems to be regularity where classes of like things have the same gender.

aHow common is that in other languages with gender?

>>214556543
Time is a flat circle.

>>214556983
They have a lot more loan words though… but more cases than Russian for example.

>>214550589
Salve amice.

>>214557669
What program is that?

>>214557832
It's called Lute (Learning Using Texts). You can add texts/audio, read, look stuff up, save words and export to Anki.

https://github.com/LuteOrg/lute-v3

Can any Germans confirm if modern German still uses "Der Reisige", like in the context of a history book or show? My main dictionary didn't recognize it so I assume it's considered archaic and not used anymore. Like if I said it to a random German on the street would they know what it means?

>>214556983
Kek

Zeus thunderstrike you with वज्र

>>214528073
I do and make lots of things of little value to me, nobody would bother pointing out there's no point in me learning Czech

>>214533431
That patron is me

>>214559665
What level are you in CZ and are you able to conjugate and understand the cases, grammar etc ? Do you do exercice homework (grammar) and are you able to write and speak decent things ?

>>214552808
Fennster so Schwartz. Big body benz.

>>214550369
The one that helps you kill yourself the fastest.

>>214550199
>>214550023
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>214552726
he's the only lolcow here

I WANT TO LEARN HUNGARIAN so bad

>>214562753
Then do the work and shut the fuck up about it.

>>214562753
you keep changing your mind though. don't get paralyzed by choice, just pick your favourite language and commit to it. take a class or pay a tutor if you feel you need to, self-learning is not for most people

>>214563234
I need to listen to multiple languages first, true…

Is it a bad idea to learn multiple languages at once? Picked up Mango to get started learning French, but considering using it to brush up on Swedish, Japanese, and Mandarin at the same time (I like too many things)

>>214548948
>>YouTube = only people giving lessons that aren’t individual
>What are chatgpt, deepseek and grok
>>you need to make sure you take notes or stock words/phrasial structure on your own
>what is scriptorium
>what is CI
>what is ankigooning
>what is talking to natives and having your mistakes corrected

>>214564330
Ideally you would focus on one language at a time but managing 2 is possible. 3 and up is pushing it. I had the same problem since I like Japanese, German, and French, but I decided to focus on the first two for now.

>>214564330
What is the point in talking about this topic at all? do something worthwhile with your life. If it involves learning a language you won't be asking this question. If it doesn't, god help you.

>>214564464
I’m trying to figure out if I’m creating an unnecessary inefficiency for myself. I do plenty of things with my life. Hard to parse why you’d take this stance.

>>214545142
West and East. Only thing South has is OCS which is now extinct.

is shadowing even helpful? it just makes me feel like a retard bungling the pronunciation while struggling to keep up with the audio at the same time

>>214564464
This is a hobby/interest for most here, dude. Or at least I hope so.

>>214564810
Okkkkk
So Czech, polish, Russian then

>>214493663
I was wrong

>>214561316
I don't write or speak I'm trying to understand before I bother, I've only been learning a few months. I studied a little grammar, but didn't memorize endings. Right now I mostly just listen to native content. I still don't understand most of it but I can sometimes follow a conversation on a common subject

>>214564753
If you spread your learning hours over multiple languages you will progress at a slower rate.
Japanese and Mandarin can already be very demanding so doing both at the same time could absolutely slow you down.
General advice with learning multiple languages is to get to a very good level in one first so that you can maintain it easily with input before moving onto the next one.

watching german spongebob videos on youtube and they call squidward thaddäus tentakel

>>214565665
Thank, this helps
Technically you are learning alone, and only for a few months. A0/A1 basically. Difficult language so makes sense…
If you have resource or grammar books pls share them with me. Might be interested.

>vālā is considered a noun instead of an adjective

Must form coumpound logical subjects along side other terms then.

>>214566926
As in

>मुझे वाला पहला चाहिए।

Btw setences that use this chaahie impersonal adjective were the first ones without auxilliary verb that I found.

kutomba

शुभ प्रभात, दिन का फूल।

>>214568719
Hogy vogy? :3

dub and i dubble hungarian

is it true Hungarian and Finnish are the hardest European languages?

>>214568916
I think wolof is pretty hard desu, maybe also arabic

>>>/wsg/5960862
>>>/wsg/5960862
>>>/wsg/5960862

We are here, lads.

>>214568916
Of cource, since the Finnish language support 15 distinc grammar cases.

>>214568916
Holy cow Finnish makes my eyes explode. Can’t stand reading it. Whereas Hungarian, even though it’s a bit weird, I LOVE. But it’s useless :( and yeah the words look funny too lol.


Hungarian ; ugric, has A LOT of known words (Turkish, some Slavic and a bit Germanic). Ex : Kutya (dog) is Turkic.

Finnish : not into it so idk, but probably less loan words. Less cases than Hungarian but complex grammar ofc. I like the sound of it but not as much as Magyar.
.
Grammar : no idea, haven’t done enough research. Hungarian has a lot of prefixes, 18 cases. :O
Both languages are extreme.
Probably less than slack but still a pain in the as* as a Anglo.


Also Hungary is poorer, better food, more corrupt. However : they are awesome at singing which I love.

Hungarian is amazing because of its geography and history.


My debate is whether I should go into it or Romanian because both languages are spoken in these countries. Romanian sounds easier. Hungarian is honestly extreme…. But beautiful. No idea Romanian as I haven’t heard it enough

>>214568719
post the full version of viszlát

I will probably die before learning this language. Sad :(

just for the record this magyaraboo leaf is not me, I'm still learning Polish exclusively and I will move to Poland soon

>>214569285
This is why i don't learn anything, so i don't have regret

>>214569292
This lang is more difficult than Czech. I have relatives in Poland, just looking at any polish text… wow. They have good music and beautiful language, but I can’t with the writing and how it’s read and pronunciation. Looks crazy.
Good luck !!

>>214569335
True… than everything is useless.
Me 1 months later to a random teacher online :
Teacher : why bother ? You’ll never learn 18 cases.
Me : no point for life

>>214569344
If it's any consolation, English has more digraphs (two letters representing a different sound) than Polish and has more difficult orthography by a long shot.

>>214569051
The cases are so regular, they might as well be suffixes though.

>>214569396
True.. also Slavic language so easier than Hungarian no offense

>>214569517
its crazy how similar polish and mandarin are in terms of sound

>>214569517
szcz and ść are not hard to pronounce. English has a similar sound in the word strength, which is pronounced starting with shchr-

>>214569548
Now that I'm saying it out loud, it's not as similar as I thought, but oh well, never found szcz difficult

czci is difficult though

>>214569548
I’m not familiar enough but I’ll believe you :/
I only like languages with the French R honestly. German has many SH sounds to and they are difficult for native French and English speakers. And for Germans, polish SH sounds are difficult…
Polish is hard af but satisfying if you manage it, it’s one of the most challenging Slavic language so good luck

What is some good Brazilian/Portuguese music? I'm a begginer

>>214569595
There is a Slavic language with the French/German R.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbian_alphabet

Filtering Canada

>>214569663
>>214569663
>>214569663
Berria

>>214569662
Good.

>>214569647
Nobody speaks it :( semi-dead language oh well

>>214569101
you know Turkish?
Romanian is pretty interesting for being a Romance language in the middle of Slavs

>>214569693
I'm so mad at what the Germans did to Wends/Sorbs.

>>214569711
No I don’t unfortunately :/
I don’t know much about Romanian, I just know it’s poor that’s all…

>>214569634
MPB (Clube Da Esquina, Arthur Verocai, Chico Buarque)