Thread 214510504

American janitors make more than europoor hospital doctors. How do you europoors cope with this?

do they live better than europoor doctors?

>>214510545
probabily yes since being a doctor requires long hours of word and it's stressful as fuq. Also it requires a lot of study

>>214510504 (OP)
I indulge in every luxury I want while me and my wife save 3000 euro a month

America is the only country in the world where minimum wage workers like janitors and fast food workers can buy cars and gaming rigs

>>214510504 (OP)
Americans CAN NOT suffer....

>>214510504 (OP)
do americans really believe this means the janitor lives better or is this just an elaborate shitpost?

>>214510686
the level of internet propaganda has become unreal since 2022

>>214510734

It doesn’t seem like any Americans are claiming that.

>>214510504 (OP)
European healthcare is cheaper and better quality than America's

>eurobro
>eurocuck
>europoor
>eurosister
>eurotranny
>eu flag
>ack
>soyjak
>unflattering ursula or starmer pic

>>214510686
American waiters don't even have minimum wage, they survive off of tips

>>214510734
never seen an american claim that, it's always other flags

>>214510686
everybody can buy cars and gaming rig when you just debtmaxx off credit cards and loans

>>214510827
I see Americans gloat all the time about their fake GDP statistics

>>214510753
>le minimum wage
Almost no-one works for minimum wage in US, and the minimum wage is higher than that in many states anyway

>>214510734
It's Nigor trying to drive a wedge.

>>214510783
>Cheaper
Debatable

>Better quality
LOL Not by a longshot

>>214510850
they don't gloat about their janitors living well,
it's not in their character to celebrate the lower class living well
temporarily embarrassed millionaires and all

>>214510873
>(claim about minimum wage)
>This claim is false. here is my source for it.
>WHO CAREAS ABOUT LE MINIUM WAGE WAAAAH USA #! TTTTTT. finnCUCk
kys

>>214510504 (OP)
>American janitors make more than europoor hospital doctors.
Source for that?

>>214510753
Their min wage is artificially low. No one works for it

>>214510883
>LOL Not by a longshot
Oh no.
It's yet another episode of "Charlie thinks all of Europe is the UK"

>>214511006
see >>214510817

>>214510753
Why are Germans such feminine whiners?

>>214511006
Explain how your post is relevant to the false statement "America is the only country in the world where minimum wage workers like janitors and fast food workers can buy cars and gaming rigs"

>>214510935
Semantics, they meant people working dead end jobs. And it's true that nobody pays strictly minimum wage, only like 1,5% of US workers make that much and it's mostly high school kids or illegals from Honduras who can't speak English. Most jobs, no matter how low-end, pay more which is determined by supply and demand

>>214510817
Yet they still earn well above minimum wage

>>214510817
>They survive off stacks of tax free cash given to them every day.
Oh no the horror

>>214511150
American workers not having a minimum guaranteed wage gives massive power to their bosses, who can subject them to poor working conditions like no paid time off, overtime without pay.
>>214511187
They're at the mercy of their bosses, and it also means that Americans pay much higher prices to dine out because they feel obligated to pay the waiters in tips the salaries that their bosses would have given them

Can we just shoot neoliberals in the head already i am so tired about hearing about ”MUH GDP LINE GO UP” at the same time as unemployment is at an all time high and every social utility in society is crumbling in real time

YES OMG SOME RANDOM INSURANCE COMPANY OR BNPL SCHEME SEED FUNDED A GORILLION DOLLARYDOOS MEANWHILE WE SHUT DOWN AN ENTIRE TOWNS WORTH OF HOSPITALS AND MANUFACTURING?? THATS BASED BRO GDP GO UP!!!!

>>214511191
At the loss of the customer, and the gain of cheapskate American restaurant owners

>>214511150
In Germany minimum wage is currently 12,86 Euro (13,90 next year) and take a guess if cashiers. That's enough to buy a car and a fucking computer.

7,25 in the usa where rent for a one bedroom apartment is often 1500 usd is not

>>214511248
This windmill nigga talking out his ass lmao

>>214511300
I wouldn’t even know where to find a job that pays the federal minimum wage anymore.

>>214511087
America has the best doctors on earth by a wide margin.

i thought summer was over? why you still here lil kids? mom told you its okay to learn at home so you dont leave her later?

>>214511255
How would it be better if the line goes down?

frankly i think europe should be poorer than it is
america being rich as the global hegemon is expected

>>214511431
Wrong.

>>214511431
It's because unlike yurop, doctors who come from abroad have to go through residency again here. They allow any random jeet or gypsy doctor to practice immediately in the EU and UK

>>214511540
>They allow any random jeet or gypsy doctor to practice immediately in the EU
no their degrees are not valid. they basically have to retake exams o algo. I remember a bulgarian that had to take half of her exams again because they werent recognized here. Sad

I really don't get how everyone here became such a massive faggot. This is how a cashier lives in Germany lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f-ovTwGENs

>>214511540
That's not true, non-EU+Switzerland,Norway, Iceland doctors who move to the UK have to take the PLAB1,2 exams.

>>214510622
plz adopt me (but i only top)

>>214511609
yet the EU would not abolish the testing system and accept foreign degress, just for the medical system to collapse!

>>214511609
Taking an exam vs 3-4 years of residency is pretty easy

>>214511652
We shouldn't make it so hard for our 1st world brothers to immigrate and work here, wtf

>>214511682
I actually agree with this, there a many medical doctors here who aren't practicing because they don't want to do the years long residency and are researchers or professors, and we have a doctor shortage

>>214511667
If they can pass a competency exam then 3-4 years repeating a residency is a waste of time

>>214511725
I meant immigrant medical doctors from 1st world countries

>>214511428
>My petite bourgeoisie are richer than yours
It will never not be funny

>>214511757
Yes, but what if they are from Iraq and can barely speak Dutch?

we had a guy who came here from some shithole said he was a doctor, worked as a surgeon for 8 years before he got caught
it's fucking easy, everything is fucking easy, it's all a joke

>>214511820
I'm a Brit on Holiday in Amsterdam, but from what I know of the UK medical system, non-EU+Switzerland, Norway, Iceland doctors have to achieve a minimum of 7.5 on the IELTS English competency exam, an equivalent of a C1/2 on the CEFR, as well as passing PLAB1 and 2.

>>214511725
>I actually agree with this
thx for agree

>>214511300
No one pays 7.25$ in the US. Even Amazon warehouse pays $22 nowadays

>>214511962
It's pretty easy to gain enough English experience to pass a one of these board exams. I'm a physician's assistant and I had a lot of Puerto Rican classmates, they could pass the exams fine despite being mediocre at English. The issues really show up with them when doing case history

cool story bro, so when are you moving to Mississippi?

>>214512241
>case history
That's what the Plab2 exam is about, 8 minutes each spent on 16 cases, doing examinations and history taking, patient education and consoling, the minimum requirement to the pass the exam is to pass 13 stations. Plab1 is 180 theory questions with a passing grade of around 115-120.

>>214510504 (OP)
GDP per capita doesn't equal median income.

>>214511967
And Aldi pays 16-20 Euro so????

This place is unbearable anymore.

Against all evidence seemingly everyone's brain seemingly only has two thoughts "usa good, europe bad"

believe whatever you want lol

Everything is very, very horrible :(((

so horrible it's ample time you end it so do it already!

I sincerely wish everyone who posts this shit actually goes ahead and kills themselves before the sun sets today

>>214512536
Like I said, just because some thirdie can pass the test doesn't make them proficient, we have the same problem as you queers

>>214512574
I would work at Aldi in Germany and attend university for free, but how much is rent?

Go for a virtual drive around most places in America and you will see lovely, spacious houses but also tiny decaying shacks. It is incredibly polarised, both wealth and poverty such as is unknown in Europe. Also you will be a Hispanic country in a few decades.

>>214512759
What if I go for an actual drive around in my car, will I see this?

>>214512647
5500 euro/day for a shared closet in a prisonlike refugee megacenter with daily cartel stabbings

How come America has a higher infant mortality rate, lower life expectancy and lower literacy rate than Europe?

>>214512574
Do you have some hormonal problems or something? I do not understand guys like you, you have absolutely no problem admitting that Western Europe have higher salaries then Eastern Europe but America having higher salaries than Western Europe is somehow absolutely unimaginable for you guys.

Germany has absolutely shit-tier salaries in many industries. You might not notice that because these jobs are often being done by either Eastern Europeans where 5 people share an apartment or if by a native German, someone who has access to subsidized housing or something.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bahn/comments/1ic4le1/wie_viel_verdient_ein_lokf%C3%BChrer/

Here you go, lot of train drivers in the comments in Germany make 2.2k to 2.6k euro net, you know how much of a poverty salary would that be in the USA?

VS look at something like in New York

https://www.reddit.com/r/nycrail/comments/17wik9y/mta_train_operator_salary/

>My brother got hired last year as an MTA train operator in NYC. He started at $40.00 an hour. I just spoke to him on 4/25/25, and he said he worked 80 hours last week alone. He screenshot me his hours. Also his last bi-weekly paycheck, after taxes, was $3,500.00. Pretty crazy—I didn’t realize they gave out that much overtime.

Germany simply do not have these opportunities where a metro driver would take home 7k net a month. And we are talking about regular, average Joe jobs here that are necessary for society to function. Germany misses entire salary tiers in IT, finance, corporate law that exist in the USA.

>>214512827
What if I'm a brown muslamic refugee?

>>214512872
Black people.

I wish I lived in firstie Europe instead of thirdie Europe

>>214512930
Those are still americans

>>214513008
Shameful Americans like Finns in Finland.

>>214512885
Yeah I have no problem telling you that your life sucks and mine doesn't

You're literally comparing someone working 80 hours in the most expensive city to someone working 37 hours minus holidays

In a thread where someone said that the usa is basically the ONLY country that isn't as poor as hungary/philipines

>>214513059
>hungary/philipines

>>214513045
Henceforth I'll say "those are not fennoswedes, it doesn't count" to every negative finnish stat

>>214513140
that makes no cents, nobody knows about that

>>214513059
I honestly do not care about your life at all.

>You're literally comparing
I'm making comparison between countries, one of them have a lot more opportunities and higher salaries. Not my problem you take it personally. Most European salaries would hit the poverty level in a lot of US states. Sure, my example was an exaggerated scenario but keep in mind that train drivers generally make more than metro drivers. And the point is, even if exaggerated, that in America there are OPPORTUNITIES where you can make money. A few years ago there were already people pulling 100k in New York doing fucking Uber. There are bartenders in Bay Area making 100k with tips because the area is so wealthy. What percentage of salary would that be in Germany? This 37 hours and holidays bullshit do not matter when you simply cannot make enough money.

>In a thread where someone said that the usa is basically the ONLY country that isn't as poor as hungary/philipines
Look, just imagine you are talking about Hungary being poor then apply that to Germany in relation to America. It is that easy, dont need to take it personal

>>214512574
>And Aldi pays 16-20 Euro so????
You can't suffer in Germania

>>214510935
Federal min wage is $7/hour in my state it's $16.50/hour

>>214510504 (OP)
Tells you how meaningless comparing nominal GDP is.

>>214511104
>tf
>tp

Crazy how rural and suburban retards will suck the cock of the establishment fucking them over.

>>214513415
>Look, just imagine you are talking about Hungary being poor then apply that to Germany in relation to America.

That's the problem with you thirdies. You always want to pull everyone down.
No. Germany is not like Hungary. Your life sucks and mine doesn't.

>>214510817
In white areas if not elsewhere that's the best low skill job you can have

>>214516029
Are you genuinely illiterate? I said Germany is poor compared to America the same way Hungary is poor compared to Germany. I don't care about your life, this is an anonymous imageboard

>>214516139
>I said Germany is poor compared to America the same way Hungary is poor compared to Germany.
and I told you that's false LMAO
No, Germany is not poor. You're not pulling me down to your level. For the third time, your life sucks and mine doesn't.

>>214511248
They're not at the mercy of their bosses because they can go work at the other McDonald's five feet down the street, because they have the option of welfare which we do far more of than euros realize, and because in many cases their families and friends have ample wealth that they have the option to draw from

>>214516182
You sound both illiterate and hysterical like a woman lol
>MY LIFE IS GOOD MY LIFE IS GOOD MY LIFE GOOD
calm down

You are very poor compared to America but still wealthier than most countries

>>214516213
>because in many cases their families and friends have ample wealth that they have the option to draw from
huh? are you still talking about waiters?

>>214516317
Yes

>>214516230
I'm really not poor compared to anyone.
Only a few days ago I ran the numbers and the only country in the world that would be worth it for me to move to is Switzerland. Everywhere else would be overall worse and even Switzerland has caveats like childcare being unaffordable and basically no worker's rights.
Would be really nice if everyone who makes posts like yours would receive a ban of ever working in Germany. All you slavs can do is complain while moving to Germany.

>>214516424
>Women are 5'5 on average
>But I'm 5'8

This is how you sound in the entire thread. No one cares about (You) you hysterical narcissistic faggot

>would receive a ban of ever working in Germany
Dude most people who go to your country either go there to live on gibs (like 95% non-EU immigrants, including Ukrainians somehow even though they are a net contributor in most other countries) or go there to live with 5 people with a small apartment in order to save up some money

>>214510504 (OP)
hospitals should be illegal and doctors shot dead.
it will solve so many problems: boomers, weaklings, high taxes.

>>214516568
Curious why anyone would do this instead of remaining in shitholes like Hungary. It's probably because someone forces them to do it or because they can't do math and arrive at the same conclusion as me
Slav life: growing up dreaming of Germany, working in Germany, working more in Germany, never seeing your family but complaining online about Germany, your children will complain about Germany not being hyper-mega rich richest country in the world several times richer than Switzerland so that rockstar street sweepers like them can retire early (while applying at German companies)

>>214516700
>growing up dreaming of Germany
Kek have you talked to a real person in the last 10 years?

>>214510753
federal minimum wage is not the same as states minimum wage, I know this is hard to understand for countreylets

>>214516746
No but I read online that you're very jealous of refugees living your dream while you think of yourself as europeans (you're not) and thus should live better lifes (in Germany)

>>214516765
>Mississippi has no state minimum wage law, so the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour applies to most employers subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA).

>>214516856
>one of 50 states in the union
(You)

>>214516801
If I wanted to live in Germany I could move there you know. I don't want to. You have millions of people living purely on government gibs in your country and you have not had growth in half a decade. Maybe focus on those issues instead of raging at the only group of people who are willing to actually work in your shithole still because they cannot find job in better countries

>>214510504 (OP)
in shartmerica you get to make like 100k making powerpoints at 22 after attending uni, allowing you to immediately get a mortgage on a 400k house, and a deal on a 32k reliable toyota camry
sharts cant suffer
the ONLY downside is getting massacred at school or a supermarket or dying from fent if you smoke weed for some reason

>>214510545
No lol
Salaries are high and so is cost of living. Let's assume they live in San Francisco and make 50k with no overtime. They can barely afford rent.

>>214516938
Mississippi is the bar for Germany to compare itself with because we have the same GDP/capita, didn't you read the OP image?

>>214516962
I'm not raging about people wanting to work here. It's understandable that they want to. What I don't like is idiots like you complaining about Germany as if they were German citizens while their alternatives are living in squalor. You should be glad we treat you this well instead of having you work as illegal slaves. Apparently that's what all of you long for. You picture yourself as the plantation owners not the beaner nigger cattle that you would be if Germany was to act like the usa

>>214516980
the downside is that you absolutely need to buy that car or you will never be able to do anything at all, on any occasion on any day.

>>214517385
and theyre laughably cheap in the states
i would have to work 14 months for a camry and the average american only 6

>>214517261
I don't think you understand the situation. Germany mostly gets two types of immigrants
>people who want to live on government gibs
This is most people in your country with foreign background outside the EU. 890k Syrians, 400k Afghans, 230k Iraqis, etc. etc. These people did not decide to go to Germoney because of the walkable cities or whatever but rather because they were promised and got gibs.

The other large groups are mostly Eastern Europeans and Balkaners: 1400k Turks, 770k Romanians, 720k Poles, etc.
Most of these people do blue collar stuff, things like waitressing, welding, truck driving, etc. These people do live nicer than they would in their home country, no doubt about that.

What Germany gets almost no and very little of is high skilled immigration.
>I'm a good computer programmer, can't wait to move to Germany!
said no one, ever.

The hierarchy for go-getters is something like USA > Switzerland > UK / Holland > Denmark and there is a large power gap with Germany. This applies not just to Eastern Europeans but to the rest of world. You could have fuck-ton of like educated Brazilians or Indians, etc. but even those people have zero reason to go to your country if they bothered to get qualifications and get accepted into a Western country. Anyone who has ever been to just Holland and Germany can immediately tell the difference as in Holland even the refugees are working somewhat meanwhile in Germany you can immediately see them loitering around train stations, it is a day and night difference and you are not going to gaslight me about this. Germany is the only country where Ukrainians are a net negative tax wise, in Poland, in Holland they are all in the positive. Only Eastern Europeans who could not make a good living at home move to Germany these days but you still live in the 90s

>>214510753
but it's fun to believe bad stuff about other countries

>>214510504 (OP)
Janitors make 0 doe

>>214517633
Then let them go-get there? That doesn't change my quality of life and it doesn't mean that I'm poor or that Germany is poor

A minimum wage worker in Germany can afford a car and a computer and for me it wouldn't be worth it to move to any of these as except Switzerland I already said but that would come with its own downsides

>>214517949
I don't know about that. I make more than 15 euro an hour and life is not THAT comfortable here. It is okay-ish. Germany is definitely more expensive in every aspect except groceries

>>214517861
I think it's bad for mental health

If I had friends I wouldn't post here anymore

>>214517477
i need to work 2.2 years for a camry ;-(

at least i didnt get shoot in the columbine massacre where 10k people lost their lifes

>>214517477
that's not the point, if you don't have a car in America then you don't have a life, you can't even work except for shitty part time hometown jobs in retail or food.

>>214517884
Got'em

>>214510504 (OP)
This is not PPP, adjusted for the artificially strong dollar, and no one who has been to the poorer US states think they are living better than a western European

>>214510504 (OP)
By having cheaper every day goods and a better social safety net and services.
That's why it's better to be poor in Europe and rich in the US.