Thread 214577688

Being a nafri is unironically extremely based and cool and if i could choose what ethnicity to be reborn as in another life I'd unironically pick nafri again but in a period of time where north Africa wasn't on the back foot.

>>214577688 (OP)
Has North Africa arabs ever achieved something unrelated to slavery?

Id pick Irish

>>214577688 (OP)
you're an inhospitable hellhole

>>214578058
many distinguished nafris throughout history but their contributions is to hellenic latin and arabic culture, nafri cutlure as a whole don't exist

>>214578168
>hellenic latin
That was done by the latin speaking christian population in north africa and they all got killed or enslaved by the invading arabs, so I dont think the modern inhabitants of north africa should credit for that.
>arabic culture
Can't say anything about that since I know nothing about islamic history that isnt directly related to conflict with christian Europe.

>>214578100
>good weather
>lots of forests
>lots of cool architectures

2 of the above do not apply to britbongs

>>214578635
>>214578168
both of you are retarded and dont know anything about north africa

>>214578058
>>214578100
>>214578168
You'll never understand nafri culture if it fucked your face and came down your throat.

>>214579451
what is the unique culture/ civilization that came out of north africa and influnced others, there is none, im not a hater i admire some north african people and things, but im just a realist

>>214577688 (OP)
Real arabs have far better achivements than Nafris

I like raï

>>214579394
g-good weather?
c-cool architecture?

>>214579394
A forrest consits of more than just a few shrubs

Cucked by TCHIIIIP

>>214577688 (OP)
literally never did anything after being buck broken by the romans
then after that conquered by germanics
then conquered by arabs who did all the work to conquer spain
then kicked out of spain after the arabs handed it to you
then only able to raid coastal villages with the protection of the turks
then once again buck broken by europe and the americans

Thats a albanian you thied

>>214579394
All three don't apply to nafrica

>>214578168
>>214578635
>>214579557
>>214581417
Only correct answers itt

>>214579538
you're so retarded and it's showing
>Khalil Raad
>Palestinian mother and child

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soubor:Khalil_Raad,_Palestinian_mother_and_child,_1918-1938.jpg

>>214581417
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nrBHSZkC4f4

>there has never been unity, nor even more so Algerian sovereignty. Carthaginians, Romans, vandals , Byzantines, Arabs from Syria, Arabs from Cordoba, Turks, French. They in turn penetrated the country without at any time and in any way there having been an Algerian state.

Charles de gaulle

>>214579538
Do tunisians claim punics or are you like the turks were you feel like you conquered/suplanted them rather than being a continuation of them?

>>214581706
>If I had discovered an Algerian nation, I would have been a patriot and not ashamed of my crime. I would not die for the Algerian nation, because this nation does not exist. I searched for it in history but did not find it. I asked the living and the dead about it and visited cemeteries to no avail.
Ferhat Abbas First president of Algeria

>>214577688 (OP)
only amazigh are based not arab

What's the point of this thread

>>214582102
Nothing except porn for self hating nafris and other racists

>>214577688 (OP)
the nafris i talked online or met during university were very differents from the ones raised here

>>214582157
in what way? if you say A, say B too

>>214577688 (OP)
we should have kept this fit, the flissa and guns too
No soldier beat that drip in the 16/17th centuries

>>214584011
Not him but people that come here for study usually are from a rich background, and many have studied in good schools. Local nafris are from poor background and will remain trash for a long time. A lot of students from Maghreb distance themselves with their diaspora because they are just too different, cant speak maghrebi arabic, and behave badly when they visit their "home" country

>>214578168
>>214579557
>arabic culture

>>214581612
Do you condemn the alkhariyans who caused the brutal killing of the tunsian who was defending himself ?

>>214584630
romanticized painting vs real poor niggas, you know there is also pictures of poor nafri niggas and there is romanticized paintings of arabians

>>214584715
google "19th century tunisia real picture" = vibrant pictures of many important different cities and locations
google "19th century saudi real picture" = mostly pictures of a single city mecca
help me understand arabic culture ? i only know about ضب and camel piss honestly. Arabic poetry is the only good thing that exists in real arabic culture.
>romanticized paintings of arabians
hahaha you are probably talking of oriental paintings ? you do realize those were painted by "orientals" after experiences in north africa ? maybe the levant too a few times, but not your region.

>>214584011
late answer but pretty much what >>214584460 said. The university students were from wealthy backgrounds (not all of them). More polite and actually knew their country history while the diasporas here just larp while waving flags.

>>214581736
we do not claim anything extremely/radically, we know we are a result of many civilizations that have passed through Tunisia. We were strong during the carthaginian era, but then came the roman empire, which brought cultural development, etc... Each era had its positive and negative points, that's all.

>>214577688 (OP)
why haven't you abandoned the fake "tunisia" and "algérie" colonial identities and joined morocco yet?

>>214585451
this. "islamic culture" is just moroccan and iranian, nothing arabic besides the quran and alphabet. even the hadiths are iranian

>>214587177
what do you mean though ?
>abandoned the fake "tunisia" and "algérie" colonial identities and joined morocco yet
but morocco kept its ruling head(the king) who was reinstated by the colonials themselves
>>214587220
hadiths are not iranian though but the biggest collector was iranian, but who knows the percentage of non arabs collectors compared to the arabs ones

>>214587220
islamic culture dont exist, its fake. i said arabic culture, which is different to north african culture, but take a look again and see which had influence and domination more on the other, arabic or north african culture?

>>214582157
j'en suis probablement un exemple mais je ne suis pas riche, et j'en ai parlé dans d'autres thread. Ceux qui sont nés ou ont grandi en france sont beaucoup plus extrémiste (par rapport à la religion par exemple) que ceux en nord afrique (du moins la tunisie). Une hypothèse est que leurs parents croient que leurs enfants vont grandir/s'adapter à un esprit progressiste dans un état développé sans trop d'efforts et d'implications de leurs cotés. Les enfants se rapprochent/se choisissent à travers le trait commun de "l'origine" sans connaitre rien du tout sur cette identité. Ils entendent d'une manière récurrente le mot islam, donc ils commencent à se renseigner et former leurs personnalités, et tombent dans l'interprétation du moyen orient (qui est complément différente de la notre).
Par exemple, dans le milieu ou j'ai grandi (une grande ville côtière mais c'est le cas aussi dans la capitale etc ... mais ca marche moins quand vous vous dirigez vers l'ouest), il y a avait beaucoup de bars, la plupart des jeunes (une majorité à partir du lycée, les filles incluses) buvait de l'alcool meme si c'est illégale pour les -18, beaucoup ne pratiquent pas (ne prient pas) etc ... mais tu ne voies pas des punitions publiques car une personne n'a pas fait x ou y. Le tatouage, qui est formellement interdit en islam, on le retrouve meme chez nos grandes mères (sur leurs visage car ça a une signification berbère). La religion, en tunisie, se reflète plutôt sur l'aspect culturelle et influence les coutumes/valeurs appliquées quotidiennement (le langage, l'habit, les fêtes ...) (je ne dis pas qu'il n y a pas de personnes qui ne sont pas très religieuses). Donc la prochaine fois, quand vous rencontrez ce genre de personnes, montrez lui comment sa mère a grandi durant les années 70 (pic rel) ou bien demandez lui une photo de sa grande mère, et dites lui qu'elle va aller en enfer et qu'il ne faudrait plus qu'il interagisse avec elle car elle n'est pas musulmane

tunisia would be better if it was catholic and spoke spanish

I'm not wrong

>>214587596
>islamic culture dont exist, its fake. i said arabic culture, which is different to north african culture, but take a look again and see which had influence and domination more on the other, arabic or north african culture?

>>214588395
no, tunisia needs only 1 thing, to eradicate the post-revolution extremists who brought back (from asylum) their shitty politics, influence and idealogy

>>214588600
Islam is inherently extremist and anti-civilization. There's a reason why the Renaissance started in Catholic Europe.

>>214588600
>no, tunisia needs only 1 thing, to eradicate the post-revolution extremists who brought back (from asylum) their shitty politics, influence and idealogy
that's what we wanted to do for years now after the political circus turmoil of the 2010s
for all his faults, kais saied rid us of all of them but amerikkka and europe didn't like that one bit

>>214589004
That’s what I was explaining, we used a version of islam that works with most of our previous traditions and cultural aspects, it is not exclusive to us, you can find the same thing in Kyrgyzstan where they are muslims but drink alcohol and fuck around, just like with christianity in europe where you don’t apply it with rigor

>>214589429
Islam doesn't work except to consolidate power into a single king which is why all Islamic countries are absolute rule monarchies without exception.

>>214587948
La religion musulmane en France est juste un marqueur identitaire, comment leur grand-mere vivait c'est pas leur problème, l'important c'est de montrer à quel point ils sont différents des français

I like nafris and would rather have them than mexicans.