Thread 214581918

Commieblocks aren't that ugly actually, they just need proper maintenance. Better than cardboard housing of UK or America.

>>214581918 (OP)
It has nothing to do with being good, its about housing people. Same as food do poor people want their food to be beautiful and good looking? no they just want to eat.

>>214582026
Commieblocks under 6 flours are generally just better planned, they have trees, walkability, nearly infrastructure etc

>>214581918 (OP)
>Better than cardboard housing of UK or America.
we don't use wood for houses retard

>>214581918 (OP)
>Commieblocks aren't that ugly actually, they just need proper maintenance.
Well maintained commieblocks look better than poorly maintained commieblocks but still much worse than detached houses (and also offer much lower quality of life) so still it doesn't really help.

Remember that on this site you don't really argue with ex-USSRs for whom it can be really about "whether our commieblocks are better than your commieblocks" but with westoids who are simply used to completely different standards. An average American anon has a bathroom bigger than your or my whole apartment. We, trying to convince him that "commieblocks aren't that bad", sound just ridiculous.

>>214581918 (OP)
After the fall of communism right wing retards were decrying the state of architecture, because in their underdeveloped brains the commieblocks were le ugly.
And then the free market gave us capitalist blocks, which are commie blocks except poorer quality, no sewar system, cramped and they sell for a whole lot more.

>>214582129
>An average American anon has a bathroom bigger than your or my whole apartment
And cardboard walls

>>214582440
And? How does it matter in your daily life (if you don't live in a hurricane area)? It's even better because you don't need to drill in your walls if you want to put a nail there.

>>214582489
Retard.

>>214582489
Retard

>>214582514
could you be more specific?
i hear Europeans complaining about drywalls but there is no real argument against them
if they were really so bad then Americans would just use bricks, why wouldn't they?

>>214582564
See >>214582514
>>214582543
And fuck off to india

>>214582489
you still have to drill if you want to put up something on the wall that weighs more than a half kilo

>>214581918 (OP)
Not really. It's not because they are ugly when getting dirty, but their shapes are just incredibly rough and not good for the eye. The Bauhaus came from here long before it was adapted in the eastern block. The architects back then thought that humans will adapt to this style eventually, but this isn't the case. Humans will feel better, if they like what they are looking at, similar to animals who like to life in their own habitat, like a forest and a nice river. It has psychological reasons.

>>214582625
here you need to drill even if you want to put up a small picture

>>214582564
Cardboard walls are easy to get damaged, accidentaly hitting it having kids at home good luck patching up holes on your caedboard.
0 sound barrier you can literally hear people speaking next room. Thats why so many americans have stories about hearing their moms getting fucked.
If you have even minor earthquakes those walls are shit.
Hard rain or snow roof collapses along with your walls.
Insulation: Retained heat well

>>214582740
well, there are just different commieblocks
in some countries they had slanted roofs with red tiles (like in Slovenia) so they automatically feel much nicer than flat-roofed ones

>>214582829
>good luck patching up holes on your caedboard.
not a problem, you can fix it with paper, glue and epoxy resin

>0 sound barrier you can literally hear people speaking next room
that's not even true, also, it's your private house and there is only your family there, so it's not a big deal, unlike in commieblocks where you hear your neighbors having sex

>If you have even minor earthquakes those walls are shit.
maybe, we don't have this problem here

>Hard rain or snow roof collapses along with your walls.
i don't think it's a common phenomenon

>>214582129
>An average American anon has a bathroom bigger than your or my whole apartment. We, trying to convince him that "commieblocks aren't that bad", sound just ridiculous.
Most people dont exactly want to have bigass housing though, many would rather go small than share a larger abode Over here there's not much options. It's like if you wanted a GPU and all you can buy is a 5090 even if all you want is a 5070ti at most. It's either 5090, buy a guys dusty ass 3080, or wait until someone in your family hands you down their GPU

>>214582740
>Humans will feel better, if they like what they are looking at, similar to animals who like to life in their own habitat, like a forest and a nice river. It has psychological reasons.
Just plant trees lol.

>>214582961
>saar I don't want to live that good! please let me live in worse conditions!
ok Rakesh, it will apparently take you a while before you get accustomed to the Canadian lifestyle and stop living with your 10 cousins in a single-family house

>>214582990
Also even though there's the whole greenery angle, unless one lives in an area that is mainly green year round having 5+ months of gray is unavoidable.

>>214582489
retard

>>214583009
Why are you so assmad? I'm not even Indian. I'd rather have more options for every sector of the real estate renter/buyers market than just funnel everyone into one option.

>>214583075
no, you wouldn't
no real Canadian has ever uttered such words, only immigrants insist on "building smaller housing" aka "worsening living standards for everyone" because they can't afford what natives can (and are used to) also they don't mind that shittification of housing standards because that's what they had back home in their thirdieland.

>>214582913
Insulation is also a big thing. Cold soviet climate needed thick walls to retain heat.

>>214582990
Any old town looks better than this. It's not because of the trees. It's because of what humans perceive as comfy. Very oftenyl these rectangular very wide backyards and wide streets optimized fir car traffic are the exact opposite. That's why currently most city planners in Europe are going the old route.

you must be insane to willingly ask for building smaller houses, it will literally mean that developers start building houses twice as small but still charge as much or even more than what they do now.

What's the difference between that and a condominium

>>214582829
>Cardboard walls are easy to get damaged, accidentaly hitting it having kids at home good luck patching up holes on your caedboard.
Drywall is the easiest thing to patch up. Also makes doing wall, electrical and networking work 100% easier to do

i never get this euro "cardboard house" cope
what the fuck do i care what the house is made of?
if its safe and cheap and big like american houses are it can be made from cum for all i care

>>214583137
>Cold soviet climate needed thick walls to retain heat.
How is the Soviet climate any worse than Canadian or Midwestern American? Georgia is actually much warmer than most of the US, let alone Canada.
Yet afaik there wasn't any difference between commieblocks built in Batumi and in Norilsk, all of them were built according to the same project, in the same factory, with the same materials.

>>214583186
I think the same way, why would you even care about the inside, as long as it works then it's fine.

>>214583170
They are also very easy to damage and all around it looks like a temporary staying place and not like your permanent residence.

>>214583169
Different ideology resulting in different structure of inhabitants
(capitalist condos are heavily stratified, meanwhile in commieblocks people from all social and economic classes would live together)
Commieblocks are poorly made, lack proper finishing and totally ignore any kind of aesthetics, it's just blobs made of concrete panels

>>214583277
>and all around it looks like a temporary staying place and not like your permanent residence.

dude, don't make me laugh, just compare average Georgian чacтный ceктop with an average American suburban neighborhood and then tell us which one looks more like a temporary staying place.

>>214583289
>Commieblocks are poorly made,
Says this after we talked about americans using cardboard to quickly pump out houses

>>214583331
poorly made doesn't mean that it would withstand a nuclear strike but rather that it just lacks any kind of sophistication or human-like solutions, it looks like one giant bunker

>>214583121
Do you think a single person renting needs a 3 bedroom unit?

>>214583137
You also can do insulation with drywall. Also most of the major boots to insulation and temp regulation is getting good windows and properly sized A/C system.

>>214583277
>They are also very easy to damage and all around it
Are you shadow boxing your walls or something?

>>214583569
>Do you think a single person renting needs a 3 bedroom unit?
Why not? That's what high living standards are about. 200 years ago working class would live in cramped cellars and they thought it's fine.

>>214582120
But you do

>>214583146
These houses are rectangular as well except the roof

>>214585049
Its only common in Scottland.

>>214583169
Fundamentally nothing, but condos have more fancy structure