Thread 214583039

>Wypipo only achieved technological superiority against non-whites in the 1850s
Grim

I live Asian gossip. What does Iran have to say about this?

>>214583039 (OP)
people (even world leaders apparently) don't understand that in the long arc of history Western supremacy was an aberration brought about by temporary technological superiority, which is coming to an end.

>>214583039 (OP)
Don't you know?
Genghis Khan is Japanese
Already proved

>>214583362
when you think about it inventing the printing press was a pure nat 20

>>214583039 (OP)
and then quickly go back to asian/westasian again

Block printing in China (before 9th century CE):
The Chinese were printing texts by carving entire pages of text into wooden blocks, inking them, and pressing them onto paper. The Diamond Sutra (868 CE) is the oldest known printed book with a date.

Movable type in East Asia (11th century CE):
Around 1040 CE, Bi Sheng in China invented movable type using clay pieces. Later, Koreans improved on this using metal movable type by the 13th century (the Jikji, printed in 1377 in Korea, is the oldest known book printed with metal movable type).

Europe before Gutenberg:
In Europe, block printing of images and playing cards was done by the 14th and early 15th centuries. However, it was mostly for pictures or single sheets, not for large-scale book production.

Gutenberg’s key breakthrough (around 1450s) was combining movable metal type, oil-based inks, and a mechanical press (adapted from wine/oil presses) into a system that allowed efficient, mass production of books in Europe.

So Gutenberg didn’t “invent printing” from scratch — but his system was the first in Europe to make books widely and cheaply available, and that’s why he gets the credit.

>>214583362
It was brought by Jesus(Odin).

Your country will return to despotism. Schools will be replaced by Madrasas. Kurds and Arabs will reign supreme.
Maybe China can return to the top.

>>214585134
All I got from this is that Asia had no actual knowledge worth mass producing into books.

>>214585134
thats interesting
thanks
did you know china cast iron 600bc? long before anyone else?

>>214583362
It started in the 1400 butnit came following the roman and greek domination of the entire mediterranean for all of the iron age lenght
Of anything the even period in the middle ages were a fluke

>>214583362
>technology
it was institutions.
China had gunpowder tech, but did diddly with it.
>>214583039 (OP)
Id say by around 1600 actually.

>>214585134
Woodblock printing is basically carving a piece of wood, covering it in ink, then stamping it onto paper. There's a reason no one mass printed books until Gutenberg. The Diamond Sutra is a scroll, most 'books' in Asia were scrolls. Wood printing makes sense if you want to stamp the same image again and again on paper then distributed, but it had basically no impact on printing books. The closest thing China had to books was the codex, these weren't as common as scrolls. Also the Chinese language prior to Kangxi didn't have the same radical system, woodblock printing would be immensely tedious if they had to make full texts because of how many characters they had, the appeal of the characters to begin with was that you could print them large on a scroll and display it easily.

>>214587056
In 1600s the Mughals were raping your white ass.

>>214587056
>I played EU4 mom

>>214586988
you mean roman, not greek
greeks dominated more than the med, for like 5 seconds till it all collapsed because alexander drank too much
romans dominated the med because everyone else was focused on trade and colonies while they built a militaristic culture
egypt dominated during the bronze age, alongside assyrians or whatever they were called then, before that it was phoenicians
the entire med has always been a struggle and while rome is the only one to fully control that sea it's not fair to say only rome dominated the med through the iron age

>>214586988
>>214589101
also to go into alt history
rome was the worst fucking power to win over the med
it did nothing but bad things from there, wiping entire cultures from asia africa and europe at the same time and making everything about muh romanness and sucking themselves off and made everything a nuclear arms race with everyone building their whole economy on raiding
I hate it, literally anyone else winning would've been a better timeline imo
greeks carthaginians egyptians etc all would've been better

>>214584920
>quickly
400 years
>>214588030
never happened

Rome collapsed -> multi-polar Europe with multiple mid-level powers -> they constantly fight -> more resources into war tech -> these war techs constantly get tested on the battleground -> Columbian exchange -> all of the natural resources and wealth of the Americas flow into Europe -> this makes them fight even more with even more expensive weapons

China -> dynasties change but once the new force has control of the core area, system more or less goes back to the same arrangement -> no one nearby dares go to war with China -> little investment in weaponry -> no constant testing of new weapons in actual battles -> there also isn't a giant continent in the middle of the pacific ocean that China "discovers" and takes all of its resources

Things are different now that technology has progressed to the point China is constantly threatened by powers an ocean apart, and China also has built up technologies to threaten powers on the other side of the world to achieve MAD.