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Anonymous Germany No.214607584 [Report] >>214607596 >>214607610 >>214607623 >>214607713 >>214607781 >>214608172 >>214609503 >>214609551 >>214609722 >>214610070 >>214610235 >>214611180
Do you have Russians in your country?
In mine , yeah sadly
Anonymous Israel No.214607596 [Report] >>214607623 >>214610308 >>214610373
>>214607584 (OP)
sadly no
Anonymous Poland No.214607610 [Report] >>214608172 >>214609503
>>214607584 (OP)
Yes, unfortunately.
Anonymous United States No.214607623 [Report] >>214607640
>>214607584 (OP)
>>214607596
I guarantee that both of you have a Russian great grandfather.
Anonymous Germany No.214607640 [Report] >>214607795
>>214607623
I have a great great polish grandmother
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214607713 [Report] >>214609503 >>214610210
>>214607584 (OP)
Yes. My homeland Tatarstan is struck with metastases of ruscism. It's filled with drunk ruzzians just like the part of your country in the picture.
Anonymous Romania No.214607781 [Report] >>214607799
>>214607584 (OP)
We are Slavx o algo.
Anonymous United States No.214607795 [Report]
>>214607640
>diet russian
close enough
Anonymous Germany No.214607799 [Report]
>>214607781
Hello bogdan vladimirescu
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214608172 [Report] >>214608221 >>214609994
>>214607584 (OP)
>>214607610
Russian out.
Indians and Pakies in.
Simple as.
Anonymous Poland No.214608221 [Report]
>>214608172
yeah...
https://eng.belta.by/president/view/lukashenko-belarus-is-ready-to-employ-100000-150000-pakistani-specialists-167064-2025/
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2539313/pakistan-to-send-150000-skilled-workers-to-belarus
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214609503 [Report]
>>214607584 (OP)
You lost, cope
>>214607610
You never had it, so also cope
>>214607713
You are a nigger leftover that didn't get Adigs treatment, because Russian Empire was pussy
Anonymous Romania No.214609543 [Report] >>214609664
>You are a nigger leftover that didn't get Adigs treatment, because Russian Empire was pussy

BLAARGHHH
Anonymous Poland No.214609551 [Report] >>214609706
>>214607584 (OP)
fun fact is that there are way more Russians in Germany proper (around 3.5 million, most of them in former DDR) than in all of Kaliningrad oblast (1 million)
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214609664 [Report]
>>214609543
Check the german thread about russia :)
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214609706 [Report] >>214609820
>>214609551
Funny but wikipedia says there are 7.5 mil there for some reason
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians
Anonymous Australia No.214609722 [Report]
>>214607584 (OP)
Mostly Russian Jews they’re very rude cold people
Anonymous Poland No.214609820 [Report] >>214610247
>>214609706
7.5 million is definitely exaggerated but 3.5 is quite believable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Germany
Anonymous Latvia No.214609994 [Report] >>214612472
>>214608172
Thanx Putin.
Anonymous Latvia No.214610070 [Report] >>214610135
>>214607584 (OP)
Yours?
Anonymous Poland No.214610135 [Report] >>214610297 >>214610347 >>214610433
>>214610070
Like it or not, despite the anti-Teutonic propaganda, most Baltic Prussians weren't genocided but simply assimilated and adopted German culture and language themselves. You can still clearly see that in genetic composition of Germans from ex-Prussia.
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214610210 [Report]
>>214607713
Only the true oldfags of 2ch will undestand this meme
Anonymous Germany No.214610235 [Report]
>>214607584 (OP)
Yeah we have like 5 million here
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214610247 [Report]
>>214609820
They are Russian-speaking Volga Germans though.
Anonymous Latvia No.214610297 [Report] >>214610329
>>214610135
>germans from ex-prussia
No such thing anymore, it's full of Russians or Poles.
Anonymous Germany No.214610308 [Report]
>>214607596
>country is run by Russians/Poles larping as Israelites
???
Anonymous Poland No.214610329 [Report] >>214610392
>>214610297
man you're fucking retarded holy shit
Anonymous Latvia No.214610347 [Report]
>>214610135
Fate worse than death.
Anonymous Vietnam No.214610373 [Report]
>>214607596
Ask your grand parents where they were born. I can guarantee you it's not within a 100km or even a 1000 km radius.
Anonymous Latvia No.214610392 [Report] >>214610511
>>214610329
And everyone in germany is a russian or turkish rape baby now.
No such thing as "prussian germs" for a long time sans few larpers.
Anonymous Latvia No.214610433 [Report] >>214610511
>>214610135
One would image after being suppressed following the failed uprisings most died in the following plagues and wars and until they dwindled into nothing as imported German farmers displaced them with minor intermixing.
Plus when Prussia absorbed a bunch of other states that identity got diluted even further, you would have to specify "East Prussian", which is most likely a dead identity.
Anonymous Poland No.214610511 [Report] >>214610574 >>214611144
>>214610392
there are still 80+ year olds who are "pure" Ostpreussians and their gene pool is basically Prussian
>>214610433
>as imported German farmers displaced them with minor intermixing.
except it's just not true, Prussians would still live there as well as migrating to the cities
remember in 16th century Prussian language was still spoken widely enough so it made sense to release a catechism in Prussian, and we can assume a lot more Prussians had been already assimilated by that time and spoke German
>Plus when Prussia absorbed a bunch of other states that identity got diluted even further
by this logic there are no "real Latvians" either, after you got mixed with Germans, Poles, Russians, Belarussians, Estonians etc.
Anonymous Germany No.214610574 [Report] >>214610589 >>214610615 >>214610645 >>214610923
>>214610511
My whole family is from what is now poland, am i a slav?
Anonymous Poland No.214610589 [Report]
>>214610574
it depends, you need to do a DNA test
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214610615 [Report]
>>214610574
Yes, it is a contagious disease.
Anonymous Poland No.214610645 [Report]
>>214610574
pretty much all germs from DDR and further east are slavs
Anonymous Poland No.214610923 [Report]
>>214610574
well there is a greater chance that you are a Slav than a Saxon or a Frisian, thats for sure
Anonymous Latvia No.214611144 [Report] >>214611204
>>214610511
Latvian is a umbrella term that covers people who can trace themselves to serfs that descend from Curonians, Semigallians, Latgallians and Livonians, with only Latgalians surviving as a distinct sub-group and Livonians identity being recognized as distinct based on it's Finno-Ungric origin.
The Latvian German identity was destroyed during WW2, the only thing that remains is buildings and surnames, many of which may just be germanized Latvians.
Lots of Polish surnames, but most of them come from Latgale which is where Polonization happened, but otherwise you don't really feel a distinct influence like with Germans.
Pre-Soviet russian, Belaruse identity is also near non-existent, none of these bozos know anything about "their" local community did here pre-1940 and is the reason why most didn't get auto-citizenship. The only group that might be distinct are Old Believers who came here long time ago, but they have little to no reach.

Prussia on the other hand has a much more complex origin.
First of all Prussia also was an umbrella term for all the Eastern Balt tribes that got conquered by the Teutonic Order.
Then it became German ruled Dutchy or something.
After which it turned into a kingdom that eventually became the biggest German state and the core of the German Empire.
When most people say "Prussian" they are not talking about specifically "East Prussia".

Obviously, as you said, there are those who descent from the region and have some Balt blood, but overall their whole culture/ethnos is shattered and fading.
The Germanic Prussian component is already diminishing, let alone the underlying Baltic Prussian element, that I imagine most "Prussians" barely think about.
After all the Old Prussian revival movement is a bunch of Lithuanians (may have some blood) and some russians (definition of LARPing), Germans, sorry, "East Prussians" just are not interested.
Anonymous Bulgaria No.214611180 [Report]
>>214607584 (OP)
only around the coast
Anonymous Poland No.214611204 [Report] >>214611243 >>214611955
>>214611144
>Pre-Soviet russian, Belaruse identity is also near non-existent,
Obviously, because they assimilated into Latvians, same like Prussians assimilated into Germans, that's the whole point. You don't call this 'genocide', it's just a natural process
>but overall their whole culture/ethnos is shattered and fading.
once again - that's true but that's just natural and normal, nothing to cry about because these people accepted it and wanted it themsevles. Why would Latvians miss people who clearly don't want to be missed, as you noticed yourself - they don't want to continue this tradition and culture even if they have Baltic blood in their veins, that's their choice and let them live.
Anonymous Poland No.214611243 [Report] >>214611955
>>214611204
also, the same way like Latvians cry over 'lost' Baltic Prussians, germanized Prussians could be sad that Latvians still exist as a separate culture and didn't get germanized because then they would consider you close brothers, as you'd speak the same language and so on.
Anonymous Poland No.214611357 [Report]
By the way, on the subject of the Prussians. Did the Prussians have a pure Baltic autosomal genetic profile, or could they have had a more mixed profile of 70% Baltic and 30% Gothic due to their contact with the Wielbark culture, and thus had less Baltic-Slavic drift? Is anything known about this?
Anonymous Latvia No.214611955 [Report] >>214612340
>>214611204
Having a russian name ("Ivans Kalniņš") or surname ("Jānis Gorovs") is enough to suspect someone as being "more russian than Latvian" even if these people may be of PVRE BALT stock going back centuries, perhaps because of the shitshow that was the Soviet occupation.
Even people with Polish and German surnames are suspect as not "true Latvians".
Overall most of this is very minor and doesn't go beyond a couple of jokes, but the 4 accepted ethnic groups in Latvia are "Latvian", "Latgalian" and "Russophone who speaks Latvian without an Accent" and "Russophone with an accent but aligns with Western Values".
The lack of discriminating based on ancestry could simply be a fact of current socio-political, not cultural landscape.

>>214611243
I am not so sure man.
There is a reason why Latvians and Estonians endured while Prussians became extinct, and it can not be explained way by "they simply all became Germans", and that is partially because Prussia got way more Germans than either of the Livonian descendants. It really comes down to how much of the rural population was German and it seems that Prussian as a langauge disapeared around the same time Prussia as a state expanded into the German world and became a top dog.

To me it feels like given how Prussia became core to the Germanic world, they would be more sympathetic to the Baltic Germans and not Latvians. Sure, Baltic "Germans" by the end were probably more Polish and russian, even potentially "Estonian/Latvian" than Geman, but it still was a very distinct identity and not one someone would give up willingly (Unless you are a Baltic German living in Estonia where the heckin' Estonians are so cute you just have to become an Estophile)
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214612340 [Report]
>>214611955
>Western Values
Have got europe nowhere.
Anonymous Russian Federation No.214612472 [Report]
>>214609994
You're welcome, no refunds.