Thread 214618844

I regularly read Ukrainian forums just to have a glimpse of life of a country at war and it does feel like completely different reality. While in my country young people would get depressed over irrelevant shit like "tfw no gf", Ukrainian guys of the same age spend their time exchanging information about which paths from home to workplace/supermarket to choose in their city to avoid a military patrol that would mobilize them or announce something like

>today a missile flew just before my nose again, thankfully it didn't hit me, sadly that young family with a stroller and 2 babies inside wasn't so lucky this time. Oh, someone's flat is also burning and I hear screams from inside. Gonna go home, mum is probably waiting with a dinner, borsht today.

What's really insane to me is that they can talk about it as a part of regular daily life, they can even joke about it.

I wish I could help them somehow but on the other hand I kind of feel relieved that I don't have such problems they do.

>>214618844 (OP)
>I kind of feel relieved that I don't have such problems they do.
Oh don't you worry, it's coming to you too, soon.

Total world peace

Not having a gf is more painful than that

>>214618913
That's why I donate to Ukraine every time I finish reading that stuff, nothing makes me more scared than reading regular people just describing their own life

>>214618913
This

And I won't post "oh those poor poles" it will be "they had it coming. Where is daddy usa now you anti-EU Untermenschen?

>>214618844 (OP)
to me its insane that women are allowed to leave but men are forced to stay and live like rats, hiding from the government

Hillary shouldn’t have overthrown Yanukovych simple as

>>214618987
if the US doesn't help us then surely the EU wouldn't help us even more

>>214618987
i will just go to germany and sweep floors for 2,5 euro and rent an appartment in rostock for 500 euros, would probably be an upgrade fromy my current ife

>>214619075
there will be millions of Poles trying to do exactly the same, I don't think it will be as easy as it is today.

they vanished from this site

>>214618987
>>214619025
>>214619075
If the EU really wanted to make sure POCCNR doesn't get any ideas it would create a EU army with base salaries being germany tier, sure enough every other south yuropoid and balkanzee would sign away their souls for a chance at such a salary and it would quite quickly become the largest infantry in the world.

>>214619117
then i will gadly accept prison

>>214619163
countries most at risk of being invaded are living under a fictional nuclear umbrella
EU isn't serious

>>214619174
Prison where, in Poland? Do you think there is no mobilization in prisons in Ukraine?

>>214619222
and how exactly would they force me to fight? i would just desert

>>214619163
>and it would quite quickly become the largest infantry in the world.
infantry that is in the army only for the money wouldn't risk their life on the actual frontline
they would use their guns to chase timmies and throw them into the trenches instead

>>214619075
I will report every pole, even spending my free time to inspect bars, restaurants and every other place where I suspect poles to report. The german, dutch, french and governments will have a particular opinion on poles hiding and leeching welfare instead of dying for the EU gibs cities

Aside from Mobilism what Ukrainian forums are there?

>>214619256
>and how exactly would they force me to fight?
you didn't see videos how Russians/Ukrainians are forced to fight? there are a lot of sophisticated ways how to do that, after all there are tortures much much worse than death from a bullet

>>214619280
im not sure this would be legal
under eu law, i can move to portugal right now and they cant deport me if i left my country legally

>>214618844 (OP)
shouldn't have tried to coup the president and genocide the russian minority

>>214619347
do you think these rules won't be changed at war? silly you

>>214619347
Why are you such a coward?

>>214619347
I'm afriad we're prime targets for the samson option, for some reason. best to try some even more irrelevant shithole like spain

>>214619399
because im not retarded

>>214618844 (OP)
I used to hang out on a gaming forum for modding and came across this Ukrainian modder who lived in Mariupol. He had to stay there during the siege but thankfully managed to escape after some time. Dude was never the same afterward, lost his passion for gaming or anything really the poor bastard.

Ivan, no need to vpn.
Everyone knows who you are.

>>214619437
I rented out my second apartment to a young guy from one of the towns that were on the frontline, he showed me photos from his city, there was literally not a single building still standing, his own house was ruined as well

>>214618844 (OP)
wars are beyond depressing, when i was very young and i didnt understand stuff i told my dad (who was in the war) that i would join the army and defend croatia and he told me when you see a guy with half of his head missing and you could see whats remaining of his brain you wouldnt care about croatia
however this war in ukraine ends
imagine hundreds of thousands of guys coming home seeing shit like this and much worse since our war was far less bloody and killing themselfes, killing other people beating up their wifes and kids due to ptsd attacks, they will never be the same, normal, guys without legs and arms with disfigured faces
and nobody ever thinks about them they get some shitty pension and the world moves on

>>214619783
>and nobody ever thinks about them they get some shitty pension and the world moves on
yeah, at best they will get a nationalist concert organized once upon a time where those who can still walk will gather, drink beer only to return to work next day

>>214618844 (OP)
There's some ukie retard whining about no gf every day here though

>>214619945
i think that's the way he copes with reality
he tries to return to "normal" problems just not to see what the real problem is for him now
that's probably a psychological mechanism

>>214619895
yes thats happens here, and its so sad presidents and generals get their medals power and money, and the the people who suffered the most get nothing
in the war you are a hero and after you are a sucker that nobody needs
my mom cried every day that my father was at the frontlines my sister was born during the war, i dont wish that to nobody

>>214618844 (OP)
don't question the ways of a stalker he'll come up with a joke and move on with his day

>>214620204
So, would you rather choose no war but also life in Зaгpeб, Greater Serbia?

>>214620487
no, why does it have to be like this every time one or the other
im very proud what people like my father did, doesnt make it less depressing

>>214618844 (OP)
Very sad

>>214618844 (OP)
Without USA support why they don't just surrender? Will Europe be willing to finance their war alone?

>>214618987
What a fucking retarded people

>>214618844 (OP)
Don't think about stuff that makes your silly head hurt and instead focus on fucking hot girls chud

>>214619163
>If EU just *thing america would never allow it's vassal states to do and is hilariously expensive*

>>214625769
That's how army recruitment works in Russia/Ukraine?

>>214625816
yep

>>214625787
Tbh this the perfect time to move away from USA sphere of influence. Every move Dementia Don does ends up in ruin.
Now they need to focus on the India fiasco and in the inevitable stagflation to bother with EU.

At worst it'll be higher tariffs which are meaningless

>>214625888
Grim. I would kill them so hard if this happened to me

>>214618987
how is poland anti eu.

>>214618994
hey men are in power and they decided this

>>214625816
Just Ukraine, Russia isn't at that level yet.

>>214625888
>deliverydriverukraine
grim
uncivilized

>>214625816
In Ukraine
In Russia they do weird shit as well but they also have a lot of poor people whose only hope in life is to earn money in military
its hopeless situation and all people around me and the world pretends that we are doing enough but we really arent. I get called russophile for even questioning if we are doing enough. Most people are way too happy just saying fuck russia, put surface level sanctions and scream slava ukraini and get all the shit russians sold through third partners that get the things from russia...basically we finance this shit anyway

Ukrainians have it so fucking bad

>>214625769
>>214625888
These guys will be all hunted down after the war 100%
there is going to be a smaller civil war no matter what is the outcome. Their only chance will be to flee abroad but people angry enough will hunt them down even abroad

>>214625914
>move away from USA sphere of influence
the fact is that the rest of the world literally wants to murder us. No choice.

>>214626174
gud evening thank yu for bying Bharat oil saar

>>214625888
>>214625769
These thugs are the scum of the Earth, fuck Jewlenskyy and Putin.

>>214626230
that is not gonna happen unless there is some kind of pro-russian regime change
at max if something was done wrong they will apologize decades later and hold remembrance
this is how things went after civil war here after people were shot for fun

>>214618844 (OP)
"Tfw no gf" is much worse than anything war-related.
I experience both things and I don't think about war™ not even the slightest to the degree of which I think about my oneitis and female nature.

There's no pain in this world comparable to the one of connected with female scum.
Total
Women
Death

>>214626239
People here defend that shit way too proudly
>yeah well russia gets from it now!!
people now complain about Trump trying to stop it as well for some reason by sanctioning India

again. The whole world wants to kill Europe.

>>214625914
I think the EU is on a very dire and sensitive economic situation and they dont have real resources to pull up a much needed remilitarization. Which is why they are doing flips while walking over eggshells with russia to make america fund their defense

>>214626372
>people now complain about Trump trying to stop it as well for some reason by sanctioning India
All that did was drive India, China, and Russia closer. Imagine during the American invasion of Iraq Russia and China sanctioned EU countries for trading with America, do you really think that would have made the EU stop trading with America?

>>214626403
the EU is not united
the EU and its voters are bunch of luddites who want to to regulate everything
honestly the whole idea of EU doesnt even work

>>214626234
No one really cares about you.
That's just propaganda.

Actually if anything Europe still have some status left internationally

>>214626467
India, China and Russia have always been aligned
not understand this from the start is like not understanding Russia
they are all big countries who want to be free of white men and want nothing to do with western systems

>>214618987
Completely retarded post, as usual from a German flag.
For decades, the US was closer to our position on Russia than 99% of the EU, especially Merkel's and Schröder's Germany. And while Trump 2.0 changed that, within 5 years Germany, France and the UK (probably more) will be ruled by his exact copies as far right parties surge in polls. I wonder what cope you'll choose when AfD sign away the Baltics to Russia in exchange for 2 bcm of gas

>>214626467
Pretty much. Trump is so fucking retarded
>>214626686
India and China had very bad relations. Brics is a meme.

Actually Modi had a very closer relationship with the US before Dementia Don ruined everything

>>214625888
>>214625769

>>214626403
They could switch sides

>>214626685
nah
brazil aligns with north korea, russia, china and india
brazil is controlled by le global south revolutionaries who want to see the west burn

>>214626805
Literally too dumb to open a door

>>214626825
You need to get off internet

We basically just signed a deal in which we exchange beef for cars.
Our issue is with the USA

>>214626686
>India, China and Russia have always been aligned
5 years ago Indian-Chinese relations were abysmal, Indian and Chinese soldiers beat each other to death with clubs on their border. Trump acting like he brokered the ceasefire between India and Pakistan, and indulging Lindsey Graham's 5000% tariffs on anyone who so much as even looks at Russian oil, made India realise that they need to put aside their differences with China, that remaining neutral in the new cold war was not feasible.

>>214626805
kek

>>214626686
>India, China and Russia have always been aligned
5 years ago Indian-Chinese relations were abysmal, Indian and Chinese soldiers beat each other to death with clubs on their border. Trump acting like he brokered the ceasefire between India and Pakistan, and indulging Lindsey Graham's 5000% tariffs on anyone who so much as even looks at Russian oil, really pissed off the Indians and made them realise that they need to put aside their differences with China, that remaining neutral in the new cold war was not feasible.

>>214626929
How's the indian internet sphere behaving with these new movements?

>>214626994
I don't know, I'm not Infian, I just listen to geopolitics youtubers like the Duran and Sebastian Sas. Fun fact: Some of the most pro-US Indians were the Indian businessmen in the oil industry, they had been telling modi for years to have closer relations with America, but of course that all stopped now that Trump considers them war profiteers.

>>214625958
>>214626230
There were already several cases of mogilizers being killed in action, either "naturally" as the guy defended himself or by hitmen hired by Russia on telegram
Also some of their camps/officers were iskander'd and the reaction among Ukrainians was about similar to our reaction when Russia destroyed UPA museum in Lviv

>>214626994
I don't know, I'm not Indian, I just listen to geopolitics youtubers like the Duran and Sebastian Sas.

Some of the most pro-US Indians were the Indian businessmen in the oil industry, they had been telling modi for years to have closer relations with America, but of course that all stopped now that Trump considers them war profiteers.

>>214626902
you dont understand it
BRICS is not supposed to be EU or anything like that
its bunch of countries aligned against western order, against white men
the west is an alliance
aligned vs alliance
Russia, India, China and Brazil always had a different idea in mind

>>214626973
bla bla bla
and Ukraine and Poland hate each other!
again, not aligning with the US is choosing to basically align with Russia with extra steps
I know you in Amsterdam dont care and want to see white men dead and you will want to run down military bases for Palestine but not me

>>214626994
There's a FP interview with a former Indian top diplomat and TLDR is that Indians are shocked because the assumption half a year ago was that Trump and Modi were gonna continue their bromance and instead they were battered over nothing and Trump lashed out like an angsty teenager (paraphrasing obv)
https://archive.is/eu7jH

the end result of this shit is
1. The total genocide of Ukraine.
2. The absolute downfall of Europe, forever.
and I know for a fact that everyone around the world, in Europe as well voted for it or cheered while it was happening for their own reasons

>>214627263
>not aligning with the US is choosing to basically align with Russia with extra steps
You have a naive understanding of the world. India, China, Brazil, don't look at international relations as Team USA vs Team Russia, they look at international relations with the goal of maximising their interests and minimising their costs. Russia offered cheap oil and gas to India, India saw a business opportunity and accepted it. If America wants India to stop buying Russian oil it should offer a better deal.
>I know you in Amsterdam dont care and want to see white men dead
I don't. I wish the Russia-Ukraine war never happened, and I wish Russia and Ukraine would make peace now. I hate war.

>>214627509
>in Europe as well voted for it or cheered while it was happening for their own reasons
Funny how I can't tell if this is a pro or anti Russian post

>>214627548
I never said anything like that Mohammed. Learn English and Dutch.

>>214627185
>its bunch of countries aligned against western order, against white men
Nope. Brics isn't aligned at all

>>214627646
they cheered while believing their marvel stories
they cheered because they wanted things to fall down
different reasons

>>214627694
I'm not a Muslim, I'm a Brit on a vpn, English is my first language. Its not my fault your writing is incoherent and you're unable to properly express your ideas.

>>214627732
Brazil marches with North Korea, Russia, India and China against the "collective west"
you guys use the term collective precisely because you dont see yourself as aligned or allied but as independent powers blowing on the same coal. Against white people.

>>214626070
Germans and Poles are both humans, yet one of them were free to butcher the others just 80 years ago. Any more amazing insights, giga-brain?

>>214627751
there is 40% chance you are not white

>>214627749
Honestly if not for the economic repercussions this war would be one of the best things to happen to my country and nation in decades. I hope it lasts at least another 4 years exactly the way it is now

>>214627751
Which vpn do you britishers use these days

>>214627881
protonvpn
>>214627855
there's a 36% chance I fucked your mum last night

>>214627915
Paid I assume?

>>214627363
Damn

>>214627857
exactly
you will love every second of it as long as TV keeps running while shit burns down
i understand the sentiment from Poland, but ultimately this will be your downfall as well

>>214627915
if you
>hate west
>hope that ukrainians die
then there is a high change you are non-white who hopes to benefit from the adjustment of geopolitical poles in the new world free of white people

>>214627816
The "collective west" is just the USA
>you guys use the term collective
Do we?
Besides Russia is whiter than the USA so your point is moot

>>214628095
I think you misunderstood me.
I meant that East Slavs slaughtering each other is a generational dream come true for Poles. Both nations that we historically fought against suddenly at each other's throats, wiping out entire teenage generations, sending prime age women and skilled workers abroad, all while at least for a few years Russia was sanctioned and isolated by the West instead of cooperated with. We hit a jackpot, only a shame that we wasted 3 decades not developing our military industrial complex enough.

>>214628236
Russians are not white.
Again, Brazil marched on a red carpet of blood with people who want to kill Europe
the global south is unified against the western order and will never do value judgements on what it can do against Europe

>>214628141
>if you
>>hate west
>>hope that ukrainians die
I don't, I never said that. Here's a tip: you're having this conversation with me, an anon, and not whatever strawman you came up with in your head.
>>214628079
yeah, £8 per month.

>>214628292
I didnt misunderstand
You see Ukraine as your enemy. Its understandable but ultimately dangerous position but your nation can cope with the situation right now because you see bandera people dying and you getting Ukrainian migrants for the aging Poland

ultimately, lets think 20 years, this will hit hard though.

>>214628471
>ultimately, lets think 20 years, this will hit hard though.
What will happen in 20 years and why won't it happen if bandera people stop dying?

>>214628418
I know for a fact that you would pick up arms to fight n10 to not fix this shit
ultimately every single one of you is either living in la la la land or you want more of this

>>214628574
I dunno. Poland surely did better in the EU than outside of it.
This war will basically be the king maker what this will turn into. Poland might return to the world of 1930s.

Honestly I think there is a great chance Poland decides that Russia is better than Europe.

>>214628723
Now you're just blabbering with no sense. I feel like you took a shot of vodka after each reply and it hit you right before this post

>>214626070
That doesn't make it fair

>>214628842
okay let me but it like this
you see banderas, but you fail to see that its not about that. Its ultimately people who will ultimately align with west being nationalistic. Polish nationalists say awful shit as well, but ultimately they are force for good.

When Ukraine falls like Assads Syria and the so called Bandera people get slaugthered, do you think the resulting Ukraine will be better for you?

>>214629001
In my first post I said I hope it continues like this because I want the meatgrinder in Donbas to keep going without Ukraine collapsing. I still think we should be aiding Ukraine because without western support they will collapse faster and that's bad for us
Ukraine will most likely never join EU or NATO anyway so that's a moot point, for us it's good as long as they remain anti-Russian and don't go the way of Georgia. And if they do... well, then it's better if there are fewer of them

>>214629166
Ukraine who is not joining the EU is ultimately just a new Syria. Its setup already that way. Ukraine will fall. The red lines are drawn where nothing can change it anymore.
You will have Russia at your border x2 instead of just Belarus

Poles have lived in totalitarian systems and do not really see how great geopolitical and cultural wars change the same people who said something else before.
Ukraine will turn fast towards something that is actually dangerous and not just offending to you.

Getting off on this situation is basically hoping for Georgia situation

>>214629353
Do you see Ukraine joining the EU, rebuilding from the war and becoming a prosperous western country by 2035? Be honest
I think whats now happening is as good as it realistically gets from our POV, there will be no happy ending for hohols though

>>214629353
and by new Syria, I am comparing Zelensky to Assad. Zelensky was democratically elected, but for the non-western powers Zelensky is ultimately like what Assad represented for the west.

This war will will only end either in collapse of Ukraine or the defeat of Russia in Ukraine. Only one of these is possible, for the populance they think there is a peace option. There is not. Unless you want Russian aligned Ukraine.

>>214629496
>the defeat of Russia in Ukraine
Unfortunately short of deus ex machina suddenly collapsing Russia this is impossible and I think westerners are starting to realize it, the current plan is to postpone Ukrainian demise and prolong the current state of things as long as possible

>>214629482
I dont see it because I cannot see Ukraine not falling to Russia. Ukraine cannot survive Finlandization like Finland was able to because its identity is not as clear and independent.

For Poland, this will also result in some type of balkanization of Europe which will make Poland choose different destiny. Maybe removing itself from the west and seeking independet path, like Serbia. It will not bring you any good though.

Eastern Europe is very shaky politically and this is true for Poland as well. You still havent experienced your wave of eurosceptism, Romania got it and it will develop into something ugly.

>>214626070
get fucked, retard.

Someone explain to me what the thought process is that causes avoiding military service? I honestly don’t get it. Obviously, all being all full of piss and vinegar nationalism is retarded so I can see why someone wouldn’t just volunteer but the way I see it, you either think this is a just war or you don’t. If you do, then military service is obviously the right thing to do if you don’t, then I can understand why you might not want to but what exactly is so great about life in a war zone you’re desperately trying to avoid it. For me there came a point in my aging where I just realized my life isn’t all that sacred, that in the end, the only thing that counts is what I do with it. So why not just serve if that’s what everyone else is doing and expected of you? I sincerely don’t get it.

>>214629603
yeah well people wont want to do it but it will ultimately destroy Europe when Ukraine falls.
No good future for Europe and its because the population is dumb.

>>214618844 (OP)
>it does feel like completely different reality
because we manage to live in a peaceful Europe where even any enmity is mostly jokes

>>214626021
polish paradox. Farmers who are the biggest eu beneficiaries are the most anti eu group in country

>>214618844 (OP)
>What's really insane to me is that they can talk about it as a part of regular daily life, they can even joke about it.
Humans are adaptable. They get used to the circumstances after a while.

>>214629694
>>214629496
>>214629353
>>214629801
t. CEO of zigger
you have to go back

>>214625769
>>214625888
>>214626805
Please post more

>>214629863
care to explain to me how I am a zigger for feeling like shit because the ultimate result of all of this is a massive poleshift (not the Poland) that will fuck us over?

How do you see this conflict? Will Russia run away? Will they do just peace that will not make Ukrainians mad and blame the losing side (the Ukrainian politicians) for "causing" the war?

Do not fuck with me you retarded nigger. This is exactly what happened in Finland but was in the long run that effective because Finland had its own identity

>>214629834
i get that, after all people would even get used to life in nazi concentration camps or communist gulags

>>214630022
Saaaar
*Reddit space*
Please, explain Russia Big Bear no run away Russia stronk Ukraine weak Poland must be Serbia own destiny (being Russia's cocksleeve) Muh Ukraine politicians CAUSING the Special military operation TM
*reddit space*
Please don't call me a zigger, sir.
t. With all due respect Sasha the zigbot

>>214629808
I can understand farmers. They wont ever get back the things they lost when joining the EU from the EU beneficaries.
only national benefits help farmers adjust with their own realipoltikal situation, but joining the EU made a lot of small farmers in Finland stop immediatly. Was it for the best? I dunno. Was it necessary? I guess so. Cant have single market without this. Though Finland, who was very agriculture heavy country still in the 90s is still struggling with the idea of being a developed country. We never really had it in the bag.

>>214626021
Shitheads from villages. That's how.
A lot of dumbasses with xenophobic views and ruzzian propaganda in their heads. Take money from the EU by one hand and shit-talking on Germany by another.
Also, shittalking on ukies more aggressively recently. That's some new level of fucking dumbasses - escalate to another tragedy with zero battle experience of the pussy-army, cuck NATO and russian boots at the doorstep.

>>214630161
My point about comparing Poland to Serbia was more likely something like intermarium.
But anyway you choose to put your head in the sand and people like you fuck us over.
Also I literally put "causing" in quotes. I said this because this is what happened in Finland. Veterans were only allowed to talk without a shame after the Soviet Union fell and IT WAS NOT because we feared reactions. The root cause was always that, but people honestly hated veterans.

>>214626593
That too.
But even if you all were on board with remilitarizing the costs would be abysmal and cause a lot of anger among the populace, imply a not much wanted increase in the faculties the EU has over individual european governments and more likely to sell out your sovereignity to america in exchange of guns. Or do the same but in favour of russia

>>214626781
>I wonder what cope you'll choose when AfD sign away the Baltics to Russia in exchange for 2 bcm of gas
Here it is: "great, not my problem, now destroy Poland"

>>214630330
yeah
Finland will have next elections in few years and because of bad economical situation, the left wont agree with increased military spending. There is a chance that there will be a centrist government with social democrats who will silence all useful idiots, but right now all parties left of socdems have opposed every single policy against Russia

>>214619118
they pop in every now and again

>>214630325
Everyone on this board knows how you look like(forgive me for not having the picture of your face saved), and what your views on Russia and Ukraine are, you are simply a contrarian chuddie

>>214630406
and the fact that its happening here speaks volumes. The bigger European countries are gonna make 180 with everything.

it's just sad
i wish i could hug Ukrainian bros to give them little hope

>>214628375
The united states are 40% white being generous and theya re anyway ruled by a jewish oligarchy lol

>>214629798
>Why do you want to avoid getting blown up in a war that might be lost anyway

>>214630440
Wonder how lib retards who spent the past year going
>vgh we need le federated Europa because Trump le bad, let's cancel F-35 orders and buy everything from europe instead
will react when people like>>214630335 elect far right parties into power all over Europe who instantly drop defence spending to 0 and pledge eternal servitude to the Kremlin because retirees need their 15th pension increase

>>214626323
Who hurt you? Have you tried guys?

>>214630563
I only hate poland specifically

In my dream world Russia nukes you and the gets nukes in return

Then we can have peace and federalize with the rest of eastern Europe that doesn't demand 222222 trillion reparations after receiving unlimited help

>>214630563
Those are the current thing people who sadly form majority of populance. They dont have an ideology or actual ideas.

>>214630682
>Then we can have peace and federalize with the rest of eastern Europe
XD and they say germans have no sense of humour

>>214630563
>elect far right parties into power all over Europe who instantly drop defence spending to 0
the hecking neofascist far right Meloni didint do this and neither will the afd if they actualy get into power though.
Some things are beyond politics.

>>214630736
My ideas? Sovereign europe free of usaian subjugation, buying f-35 and saying fuck germany at every opportunity doesn't help with that

>>214630759
Maybe, but on the other hand Orban and Fico are effectively blocking everything related to Ukraine or Russia, from aid packages and sanctions to rearmament programs (sometimes the veto is dropped in exchange for more gibs)

>>214630827
usa is our only hope

>>214630759
Meloni was never far-right

>>214630891
Not with the current admin
Honestly with the exception of Nordic-Baltic8 we're on our own

>>214629937
https://t.me/uhylaynt

>>214630827
The fact is that Europe has no will for it. No country ultimately. We still consume Russian oil and will phase out in 2028...but then we will just buy it from someone else and pretend we phased it out.

>>214630920
Trump has just said to Nawrocki that Poland is safe, so it is safe.
Has Trump ever broken his promise?

>>214630938
why not just apply for a job in TCK? then you're safe from mobilization

itt future draft dodgers

>>214631042
they don't have too much vacant job offers

>>214626230
>These guys will be all hunted down after the war 100%
I hope Azov and others will hunt down every draft dodger 100%. Especially the scum here in Poland.

>>214631089
Azov and AFU war veterans are not against that and openly support it. And i can understand this as they are ones putting lifes in danger, while others try their best to hide from draft. There is no right and wrong in this cituation, as both sides have valid points. Ordinary people just want to live their lives, while soilders at front lines for 4th year straight without end at horizon.

>>214630891
USA will collapse economically within like, a year

>>214631330
then there will be no hope left

>>214631330
yeah well if that happens then the entire world is also fucked

>>214631044
yхилянт
>>214631226
зйoбoк

>>214631383
maybe it is

>>214619118
RU and UA flags left 5 posts combined itt lmao
Are they dead, emigrated or using proxies?

>>214631042
I've seen on some news like half a year ago or so, that the guys returning from war who were injured and overall will take the jobs in TCK, while the current guys from TCK will be send to the real deeds in the army.

>>214631386
>tf
>tp

>>214631226
Poo and pee. A lot of azov members are ex-ultras or football hooligans. Bunch of morons, but gladly found themselves in anti-russia war.

>>214628292
Anon, you are talking to a Russian that fled to Finland

>>214619325
Nobody is going to torture you to go to the frontline lmao. What are they gonna do, break your legs and then wait for a year so they heal up and you can finally join the fight?

>>214632086
may I remind you that Czechia proofs my point really well? Your opposition is full of these people

>>214632127
>Nobody is going to torture you to go to the frontline lmao
Yes, they will.

>What are they gonna do, break your legs
Yes.

>and then wait for a year so they heal up and you can finally join the fight?
No. Just send you in the fight with broken legs.

What a great example of european sweet summer child. Did you sucked ur momma's breast today? How is your nintendo?

>>214632127
Put in the basement with no water and food. Or simply shot you dead.

>>214632134
What I want is for your people to get out of my country. If you can't respect the local culture than you should get the fuck back to your shithole

>>214630682
if Russians ever plow over this country they'll obviously go for Germany next

>>214632311
Why are you talking down to a Finn while your country is having an identity crisis with Russia?

>>214632358
>Finn
drop the act

>>214627839
Yea, I'm sorry about that

>>214632311
Local culture like pic related? No, I kinda respect that. Keep going, buddy.

>>214632455
just sayin
my country isnt close to becoming another Slovakia/Hungary

>>214631330
If US collapses so will the EU

>>214618844 (OP)
It's not like that here
If I didn't read the war-related tg-channels I wouldn't even notice there's war going on.
The only thing that changed is my old friend who's serving on the frontlines since 2022 but tbf I'm kind of proud and happy for him since he was jobless loser who smoked weed and drink alcohol all years long and now he gets money, hopes for the future, and brings profits tonour country

>>214632305
Maybe in Russia shit like that happens, but not in civilised countries. There is simply no reason to shoot men who refuse military service. If you do that you're just depriving yourself of labour force

russian and ukrainian men should make love not war

>>214632275
You can share your insights with your friends at the construction site tomorrow. I don't care about the opinion of illiterate peasants