Thread 214680495

Why don't they have children? Especially Denmark. Their excuses to not have children are very comical

>>214680495 (OP)
But we do. More than the rest of Europe anyway

>>214680495 (OP)
Individualist lifestyle. They don't care about family, country, future. They just know they have to enjoy life and once they are old their government will put them and finance them in retirement boomer houses.

People value their time here

>>214680495 (OP)
The great economy and safe environment means that Somalian men and swedish women are among most virile and fertile couples in all of Europa, literally pumping out babies constantly. Swedish men prefer to play video games and spend their money on funko pops

>>214680525
Still extinction rate

>>214680495 (OP)
Any nordic born after 1993 can't cook, all they know is pickled herring, charge they friends for dinner, stig-schottis, be bisexual, eat snus, and lie

>>214680495 (OP)
Culturally slavs are more collective, Christian and traditional meaning that children are important yet the demographics are horrible there in eastern europe, i think theres more than culture that influences demographics

>>214680538
Value time for what?

>>214680608
>slavs
>more traditional
Yeah if tradition means mail order brides, prostitution, drugs, abortions and AIDS

>>214680585
>pickled herring
>can't cook,

>>214680495 (OP)
they don't want kids, they want to die out with their suicide rate and all

>>214680615
For not being unable to sleep at night and changing diapers and being stressed out constantly

>>214680615
I heard that for a lot of swedish boys nowadays trying to achieve something they call "Sissygasm" is all the rage, so it takes up a lot of times. They stay in the goon cave and try to sissygasm with various toys experimenting with their prostrate's g spot, but it takes a lot of time to master it. Just check out reddits like /r/handsfreetrans /r/sissychastity and such and you'll see so many north europeans, especially cute pale blonde scandinavian cuties practicing

>>214680658
Instead Swedish people can go to work and pay taxes for Somalis kek

>>214680495 (OP)
You don't understand. They simply can't settle for 4/10s like this, and there's not enough 10/10s to go around for every man. So they simply choose to go without.

Scandinavia is home to the world's largest population of volcels for this reason.

>>214680495 (OP)
We used to steal their women and make babbies.

>>214680674
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>>214680674
How many children do you have?

>>214680674
Bodied that freak

>>214680495 (OP)
>Their excuses to not have children are very comical
It's only comical to thirdies, same like thirdie problems feel comical to firsties
you simply don't think with the same thinking patterns like them so this discussion is pointless
>>214680536 has the point

>>214680658
Cool story swede

>>214680658
in Kazakhstan people value it too
simply in the Muslim culture only men are considered full fledged "people", so the fact that women are burdened with these duties and have to do everything with the baby bothers no one, it's just "their job"

>>214680702
Imagine the smell

humans are benefit seekers. reproducing has no real benefits for humans right now. if they had to do agriculture like 150 years ago they would had 10+ kids. but yes some people still have kids just like some people like to have pets. same reasons but no real survival benefits.

>>214680781
I think firstie would logically understand that not having food is an universal problem that anyone will understand. But I think you posted this bullshit just to call me a thirdie, which isn't even true

give Muslim women freedom to decide about their own fate, whether they want to have children or not, without family pressure + give them an independent source of income and we will see if "firstie problems" will still feel comical to you
you cannot even believe how fast it can change
remember, that just 100 years ago, Slavs were thought to be super conservative and traditional and Slavic women were thought to be baby-making machines, a woman having 12 kids was a normal thing, Hitler was unironically afraid of that, he would often complain about Slavic insane fertility and how much of a danger it poses to German civilization

and what's left out of this famous Slavic fertility now, after Slavic women gave a little personal freedom? the lowest birthrate in the world only competing with South Korea

You have to understand that Europe after WW2 is a collection of "longhouse" matriarchal societies ran by a collection of mediocre childless white women (is part of a more extense humiliation ritual), and because of this, their culture and society as their priorities reflects this effeminacy

You can see here for example.how even conservative women tend to not prioritize childbearing
Let alone progressive women like the ones running europe.

>>214680879
you are thirdie not because of how rich you are but because of your mentality
which is exactly why you cannot understand Swedes

>>214680879
>I think firstie would logically understand that not having food is an universal problem
no, a firstie would tell you
>if you don't have bread, just eat cake
and they would say it unironically, they just cannot comprehend that you cannot just go to a supermarket (where food magically grows on the shelves) and take whatever you like

>>214680906
More like right wingers are consumer breeders. The line must go up

>>214680959
Then why so many of them support funds to rise food Access in third world shitholes? And write poems how it will make so much people happier? Or they do that as robots?

>>214680906
harris voter females don't have emotional stability so they see that as a success. male trump voters can't breed so the see having children is a success

>>214681024
>Then why so many of them support funds to rise food Access in third world shitholes
they have no idea what they support and why, they just do Current Thing (tm)

if you told a firstie that you have no money to buy food, they'd tell you
>can't you just apply for a social welfare in your country? or ask your representative to raise this question in the parliament?
yes, they are that naive

>>214680906
women rule it yes, good point, but they are functioning as puppets

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>>214680933
If first world mentality makes your species extinct and your women whores in female supremacist movement I would rather have a "thirdie mentality"

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>>214681080
>Skipped the part about poems about happy children agitation for other firsties
Ok troll, you will get ignored from this point

>>214680525
>>214680538
>>214680658
>>214680703
DOGFUCKING
RAPED
KIKE

>>214680989
DOGFUCKING
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KIKE

>>214681161
you completely ignore this >>214680901
>>214681127
ok, it's you who got butthurt for being called a thirdie after all

>>214681078
Trump voters have way more children than harris voters though

>>214680803
teach me your Kazakh stress free ways

Irreligiosity is the main factor I guess.
I could only understand such sacrifice like raising children if you believe that you will be rewarded for that after death.

range ban Finland

mindbroken finnoid, imagine being a nazi when you're a eurasian mutt

>>214681078
Conservatives have a lot of kids
Progressives are going extinct because thy are suffering from a mental disease that makes them sterile
>>214680989
That makes no sense.
Line goes up more strongly if you import cheap labour thirdies and never inherit your property
>Liberalism and communism
Enslaved by ideas (we Mooooost keep the GDP and the equalty o algo)
>chuddism
Enslaved by body (we moooost keep body reproducing)

>>214680585
>charge they friends for dinner
That's netherland-culture

>>214681628
Kill all kikes

>>214681660
>survey

They don't blame women they blame anything but women, women blame anything but themselves. But they ignore it as the first posts by swedes suggest. But because you polish retarded have a brain of the size of cockroach's it requires you way more thinking abilities. Because your mental abilities are that's of cockroach

>>214681706
How are they supposed to know their ideology
Mind reading?

>>214681711
>They don't blame women they blame anything but women, women blame anything but themselves
no one "blames" anyone for anything, simply in the western world not having children isn't seen as "guilt" or "sin". It's seen as a choice. The better one, actually.
Using such "guilt-based" terminology already makes you sound like a regular thirdie.

>>214681660
hedonistCHADS just keep winning, there's no meaning to anything, just do what must be done so you can fuck hot hoes and enjoy whatever hobbies or arts you find interesting. in fact people need to smoke more cigarettes, I think once zoomers stopped smoking cigarettes they became gay and started thinking about meaning or politics instead of big booty bitches, they unironically see a picture like this and think
>erm but, is this fertile woman that's in front of me and ready to fuck akschually a commie or a liberal or a nazi, is she trad, does she have ex boyfriends, what does she think about ecology and palestine and ukraine
they say this unironically geg

>>214681621
Doesn't follow. Abrahamic religions reward abstaining from sex altogether more than breeding. And people in general find raising children rewarding. If they didn't, we'd have gone extinct long, long ago. What has changed is the rise of individualism. Instead of asking for help from relatives and such, many young parents choose to be martyrs instead. "It takes a village to raise a child."

>>214680585
DOGFUCKING
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>>214681757
Not my problem. Most "conservatives" are spineless larpers anyway.

>>214681588
Just don't stress, dude.

>>214681835
>Abrahamic religions reward abstaining from sex altogether more than breeding.
Only for few selected individuals like monks. For the "common folk" it is advised to have a large family, same in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Ofc I mean mainstream denominations, not some edgy sects like cathars.

> And people in general find raising children rewarding
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, I meant "irreligiosity in our current world" when there is no economic (immediate) benefit to having children and it could be only belief that we will be rewarded after death that could make people accept this duty.

>>214681795
>political ideology? BWC imperialism
>political projects? TND
>Occupation? Rape and plunder
>hobbies? Rape
>opinions on marriage? Rape and beat women into submission

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Why is the Schizo Finn having a meltdown?

>>214681932
There has never been immediate economic benefit for having chidlren outside some corner cases like birthing the heir for the ruling monarch. You invest ten years into them before they start to return that investment. If anything, it's the societal pressure (and accidents because sex feels good) that makes people having chidlren, religion just adapts to that. Of course denominations that tell its adherents to breed like rabbits end up having lots of followers, but that's after they've been adapted to child-positive family politics.

>>214682102
Beats me. Has it not been like this for years? I vaguely remember vitnessing breakdowns like this in the past and I haven't been very active in /int/ in the past couple of years.

>>214682193
>>214682221
HOLY FUCKING WATERFALL MENSTRUATION
HOW DO YOU BURN THROUGH A VPN IN 3 POSTS, KIKE

>>214682221
He's gotten a lot worse, he used to meltdown at any post vaguely hinting at a positive or even neutral opinion of Indians and India, but now his outbursts appear to be completely random.

>>214682193
>There has never been immediate economic benefit for having chidlren outside some corner cases like birthing the heir for the ruling monarch
Can't agree. In primitive societies children work from the very beginning, even 2-3 year olds are already used for tasks like shepherding.
>religion just adapts to that.
Then we wouldn't say such a stark contrast between the same people ethnically and culturally but with different religions, regarding birth rate, yet we do. Muslim Indians live the same way like Hindu Indians yet the former have a way higher birth rate than the latter. So I cannot agree that it's all about lifestyle.

>>214680495 (OP)
>Why don't they have children?
Why are you singling out Scandinavia? More than half the countries in world aren't having children. I would assume it's for the same reasons as all the other countries.

>>214682444
other countries have like objective problems like housing, money issues etc. in comparison goverment will babysit both you and your children if you do that, and even pay from start to end

The world doesn't need more of those sieg-heiling sadistic autists.

>>214682679
But enough about muskowites!

>>214682637
>problems like housing
Sweden is almost at the bottom when it comes to home ownership in Europe, and for major cities there is almost a 10 year wait time for a studio apartment in a 60s commieblock.

>money issues
We have pretty average wages as far as Europe is concerned. Around the same levels as Italy, France and Spain.

>in comparison goverment will babysit both you and your children if you do that
Pro-natalist policies haven't worked for any country. Why would countries like Sweden be different?

>>214683108
Pro natalist policies unironically worked here

>>214680608
All slavic countries were under communism for about half a century. So I don't think they're a good example for making your point. Low fertility has different causes depending on the country but two main factors are at play cultural attitudes and economic pressures. In many Asian countries people delay or have fewer children largely because of demanding working conditions and low wages while in Scandinavian countries where life is more secure and work life balance is better cultural preferences like personal freedom lifestyle choices play the bigger role.

>>214683697
Because you're Muslims.
And they only work with conservative Muslims in the countryside who would have children either way.

Russians and russified Kazakhs in big cities have few children.

>>214684568
>Low fertility has different causes depending on the country but two main factors are at play cultural attitudes and economic pressures. In many Asian countries people delay or have fewer children largely because of demanding working conditions and low wages

so you mean Bangladeshi workers had better working conditions and higher wages 30, 50 or 70 years ago when they had more children than now?

No, the causes are exactly the same everywhere - changing culture. Which means, that for modern zoomers, the same, or even better working/financial conditions like their ancestors had, are already "not enough" for having children - because that's how modern culture spoiled them.

>>214684930
>Russians
Yes
>russified Kazakhs
No

>>214685017
I don’t think I was clear when I said Asian countries what I actually meant is developed Asian countries. Thirdie mentality is just different we only recently stopped reproducing like rabbit after realizing it wasn’t good for us.

>>214685176
>I don’t think I was clear when I said Asian countries what I actually meant is developed Asian countries
So i really don't know which countries you meant when saying "low wages" because Japan or Korea definitely have high wages (yet few children).
>Thirdie mentality is just different we only recently stopped reproducing like rabbit after realizing it wasn’t good for us.
it's not a conscious decision based upon scientific research
it's simply young thirdies are also subjected to changing culture and consumptionist and individualist western lifestyle affecting them through the global media
it is happening slower in Muslim countries than anywhere else but still is

>>214685165
>No
yes, obviously russified urbanized Kazakhs have less children on average than conservative Kazakhs in the countryside. But we need to take into account that a lot of conservative Kazakhs keep moving from the countryside to big cities now and they still follow the "old" patterns for a while, before they become "fully urbanized"

>>214681795
No one has ever said that tho

>>214680495 (OP)
Because they want to provide a separate room to each child and an average European can't afford that, they live in dog boxes.

>>214685551
they do say that THOUGH

>>214680536
Please tell about our countries you fucking non-european savage
People value society massively here and family matters tremendously

>>214685860
And you still give the most comical excuses to not have children

>>214685860
Yeah yeah yeah dogfucker

>>214680495 (OP)
They don't want this to happen to their children.